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I have added the reasons as to why the Muslim MSNBC editors were fired, and 223.123.94.227 reverted it, claiming that it's "irrelevant". I have added and sourced the fact that the Palestinian news network is supported by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and the anonymous editor removed it, stating (without a source) that it's "pro-Israeli claims".
Moreover, it's unfair that the administrator (Firefangledfeathers) protected the article with the other editor's version being the final one.
I would like his edits reverted and my version restored, in order to return neutrality to Wikipedia and improve the coverage of this horrible war caused by Hamas. 87.70.74.69 ( talk) 14:03, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
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I would like Tollens's edit reverted. He had "toned down" my edit. I believe that the wording should be my way. The world has to know that Hamas's terrorist actions were objectively wrong. The same way Wikipedia states (for example) that Donald Trump's claims of election fraud are false just because it's the truth without worrying about "neutrality", Wikipedia should state that Hamas killing, raping, and kidnapping people is wrong, while Israel is just trying to protect itself. This article in particular, should state that the media coverage of this war was almost entirely pro-Palestinian. I believe that my wording should remain intact in order for Wikipedia to clearly state the truth. Alternatively, I'd like a compromise, with my edit removed and the "Suspension of accounts" section removed. Tollens had removed (apperently for no reason), a section about an Iranian journalist that promotes murder. The real reason this statement was removed? This statement states facts that aren't compatible with Tollens's pro-Palestinian narrative. Thank you. 87.70.74.69 ( talk) 08:40, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Hamas's terrorist actions were objectively wrong, I would suggest reading through WP:NPOV and WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. Phrases like
in order for the world to see the horrors that the terrorist organization Hamas has committedare blatant violations of WP:NPOV, and were removed accordingly. Hamas cannot be described as a terrorist organization in the article due to MOS:TERRORIST, which states
Value-laden labels â such as calling an organization ... terrorist ... may express contentious opinion and are best avoided unless widely used by reliable sources to describe the subject, in which case use in-text attribution.I won't close this edit request as I believe doing so would be inappropriate given that the request is to revert my own edit. Tollens ( talk) 20:30, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Accusations of censorship needs to be better covered here - if not created as a level-2 subhead over the material on the suspension of media platforms then at the very least as a corollary to that material. Iskandar323 ( talk) 07:19, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 12:29, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Media Cloud released an analysis of the first month's media coverage of the conflict, inclusive of all English articles published by >10,000 different sources. Some of the figures concern overall patterns, and some compare groups of sources by political leanings. There's a measure of overall attention, comparison of the frequency of certain keywords over time and across partisanship groups (e.g. terror, militant, genocide), etc. A few bulletpoints:
Leaving it here because I realized it might be of some use to this article, but I have a COI so will not be adding it myself. â Rhododendrites talk \\ 03:18, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi all
I'm really impressed with the amount of information in this article and how easy it is to read. I've done a few small edits on grammar and to try to help with the structure of the subheadings a bit.
One things I've noticed that the current structure means that there is some repeated sections and repeated information (eg the coverage of the war by US journalists is covered in different places and has some repeated info) and I wonder if there are any structural changes that might improve the navigation of the article? One suggestion would be to move the content of the 'controversies' section to other sections, currently it covers a lot of the US coverage of the war which could be in another section. However I am really aware that it is not doing a service to readers by burying the content in 'Double standards in media coverage' in a section with a easy to overlook section like 'media coverage by country'.
Would really appreciate your thoughts on making the structure as good as it can be.
Thanks
John Cummings ( talk) 12:07, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Considering that most other articles or reliable sources don't describe the situation in Gaza as a genocide, wouldn't it be best to not describe it as such here? Man-Man122 ( talk) 23:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Could someone fix the typo in the Israeli social media section that spells "hashtag" as 'hashtage"?
Thanks Watch Atlas791 ( talk) 02:28, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
first time suggestion, but as subject says it may be worth adding a NYT section instead of one report, as there are multiple other controversies from the NYT on this subject according to the NYT page section seen at this link /info/en/?search=The_New_York_Times#Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict AIisanemail ( talk) 05:16, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Hi,Over is not Yet to be covered as I've matters related to issues like U and the others ,I did saw why the whole world is covered by the mental people those being killed for years now by the so call the normal people and I believe their nnormality for nothing but war on social media and on around them and they wanted to quit friendly and fair but one is almost bad and failed schools institutions and workplaces are nothing but only to bring each other down as no one will be like me and they don't need to work hard and to be creative to handle the matters and issues that disturbed them for the past fifth year and the following five years to come is what they say is the best but the worst of them all and I know it was never better and you all are looking for one goal and that goal I can make it work for me alone not all of you.Just ask me how and why.Amooketsi the war is for you and climate change is here to stay but not you.Your here to suffer even if you can work or stay in this poverty is for you to wait until the death comes to by yourselves or from others . So they thought they'll be young forever years are there and days are calculated for you not to get access to 2 0000000 or more years in this world . Is life or Death and I also signed for my death because I'm still alive .
Hi,Over is not Yet to be covered as I've matters related to issues like U and the others ,I did saw why the whole world is covered by the mental people those being killed for years now by the so call the normal people and I believe their nnormality for nothing but war on social media and on around them and they wanted to quit friendly and fair but one is almost bad and failed schools institutions and workplaces are nothing but only to bring each other down as no one will be like me and they don't need to work hard and to be creative to handle the matters and issues that disturbed them for the past fifth year and the following five years to come is what they say is the best but the worst of them all and I know it was never better and you all are looking for one goal and that goal I can make it work for me alone not all of you.Just ask me how and why.Amooketsi the war is for you and climate change is here to stay but not you.Your here to suffer even if you can work or stay in this poverty is for you to wait until the death comes to by yourselves or from others . So they thought they'll be young forever years are there and days are calculated for you not to get access to 2 0000000 or more years in this world . Is life or Death and I also signed for my death because I'm still alive .
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Text and/or other creative content from this version of Misinformation in the 2023 IsraelâHamas war was copied or moved into Media coverage of the 2023 IsraelâHamas war. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. |
This
edit request to
Media coverage of the 2023 IsraelâHamas war has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
I have added the reasons as to why the Muslim MSNBC editors were fired, and 223.123.94.227 reverted it, claiming that it's "irrelevant". I have added and sourced the fact that the Palestinian news network is supported by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and the anonymous editor removed it, stating (without a source) that it's "pro-Israeli claims".
Moreover, it's unfair that the administrator (Firefangledfeathers) protected the article with the other editor's version being the final one.
I would like his edits reverted and my version restored, in order to return neutrality to Wikipedia and improve the coverage of this horrible war caused by Hamas. 87.70.74.69 ( talk) 14:03, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Media coverage of the 2023 IsraelâHamas war has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
I would like Tollens's edit reverted. He had "toned down" my edit. I believe that the wording should be my way. The world has to know that Hamas's terrorist actions were objectively wrong. The same way Wikipedia states (for example) that Donald Trump's claims of election fraud are false just because it's the truth without worrying about "neutrality", Wikipedia should state that Hamas killing, raping, and kidnapping people is wrong, while Israel is just trying to protect itself. This article in particular, should state that the media coverage of this war was almost entirely pro-Palestinian. I believe that my wording should remain intact in order for Wikipedia to clearly state the truth. Alternatively, I'd like a compromise, with my edit removed and the "Suspension of accounts" section removed. Tollens had removed (apperently for no reason), a section about an Iranian journalist that promotes murder. The real reason this statement was removed? This statement states facts that aren't compatible with Tollens's pro-Palestinian narrative. Thank you. 87.70.74.69 ( talk) 08:40, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Hamas's terrorist actions were objectively wrong, I would suggest reading through WP:NPOV and WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. Phrases like
in order for the world to see the horrors that the terrorist organization Hamas has committedare blatant violations of WP:NPOV, and were removed accordingly. Hamas cannot be described as a terrorist organization in the article due to MOS:TERRORIST, which states
Value-laden labels â such as calling an organization ... terrorist ... may express contentious opinion and are best avoided unless widely used by reliable sources to describe the subject, in which case use in-text attribution.I won't close this edit request as I believe doing so would be inappropriate given that the request is to revert my own edit. Tollens ( talk) 20:30, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Accusations of censorship needs to be better covered here - if not created as a level-2 subhead over the material on the suspension of media platforms then at the very least as a corollary to that material. Iskandar323 ( talk) 07:19, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 12:29, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Media Cloud released an analysis of the first month's media coverage of the conflict, inclusive of all English articles published by >10,000 different sources. Some of the figures concern overall patterns, and some compare groups of sources by political leanings. There's a measure of overall attention, comparison of the frequency of certain keywords over time and across partisanship groups (e.g. terror, militant, genocide), etc. A few bulletpoints:
Leaving it here because I realized it might be of some use to this article, but I have a COI so will not be adding it myself. â Rhododendrites talk \\ 03:18, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi all
I'm really impressed with the amount of information in this article and how easy it is to read. I've done a few small edits on grammar and to try to help with the structure of the subheadings a bit.
One things I've noticed that the current structure means that there is some repeated sections and repeated information (eg the coverage of the war by US journalists is covered in different places and has some repeated info) and I wonder if there are any structural changes that might improve the navigation of the article? One suggestion would be to move the content of the 'controversies' section to other sections, currently it covers a lot of the US coverage of the war which could be in another section. However I am really aware that it is not doing a service to readers by burying the content in 'Double standards in media coverage' in a section with a easy to overlook section like 'media coverage by country'.
Would really appreciate your thoughts on making the structure as good as it can be.
Thanks
John Cummings ( talk) 12:07, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Considering that most other articles or reliable sources don't describe the situation in Gaza as a genocide, wouldn't it be best to not describe it as such here? Man-Man122 ( talk) 23:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Could someone fix the typo in the Israeli social media section that spells "hashtag" as 'hashtage"?
Thanks Watch Atlas791 ( talk) 02:28, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
first time suggestion, but as subject says it may be worth adding a NYT section instead of one report, as there are multiple other controversies from the NYT on this subject according to the NYT page section seen at this link /info/en/?search=The_New_York_Times#Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict AIisanemail ( talk) 05:16, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Hi,Over is not Yet to be covered as I've matters related to issues like U and the others ,I did saw why the whole world is covered by the mental people those being killed for years now by the so call the normal people and I believe their nnormality for nothing but war on social media and on around them and they wanted to quit friendly and fair but one is almost bad and failed schools institutions and workplaces are nothing but only to bring each other down as no one will be like me and they don't need to work hard and to be creative to handle the matters and issues that disturbed them for the past fifth year and the following five years to come is what they say is the best but the worst of them all and I know it was never better and you all are looking for one goal and that goal I can make it work for me alone not all of you.Just ask me how and why.Amooketsi the war is for you and climate change is here to stay but not you.Your here to suffer even if you can work or stay in this poverty is for you to wait until the death comes to by yourselves or from others . So they thought they'll be young forever years are there and days are calculated for you not to get access to 2 0000000 or more years in this world . Is life or Death and I also signed for my death because I'm still alive .
Hi,Over is not Yet to be covered as I've matters related to issues like U and the others ,I did saw why the whole world is covered by the mental people those being killed for years now by the so call the normal people and I believe their nnormality for nothing but war on social media and on around them and they wanted to quit friendly and fair but one is almost bad and failed schools institutions and workplaces are nothing but only to bring each other down as no one will be like me and they don't need to work hard and to be creative to handle the matters and issues that disturbed them for the past fifth year and the following five years to come is what they say is the best but the worst of them all and I know it was never better and you all are looking for one goal and that goal I can make it work for me alone not all of you.Just ask me how and why.Amooketsi the war is for you and climate change is here to stay but not you.Your here to suffer even if you can work or stay in this poverty is for you to wait until the death comes to by yourselves or from others . So they thought they'll be young forever years are there and days are calculated for you not to get access to 2 0000000 or more years in this world . Is life or Death and I also signed for my death because I'm still alive .