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I think that the use of the word "victim" in this article is highly POV. It is quite strange to speak of people who were sent to jail after being the subject of investigative journalism as "victims". I recommend the use of more neutral language throughout.-- Jimbo Wales 15:35, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
It is not up to wikipedia to make that value judgment. Take it out.-- Jimbo Wales 14:31, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
does anybody know where i can find a transcipt of the interview with the countess of w?
thanks —Preceding
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Having brought the articles references up to date, I am concerned that employees of News International are adding/subtracting to the article: some of the IP address trace directly back to their HQ. Hence have added the autobiog tag Rgds, -- Trident13 ( talk) 20:41, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Whilst I do not read the NoW, it now appears that there are more criminals working for it than being investigated. In fact many of the "crimes" committed appear to have been provoked and the perpetrators entrapped, so it is perhaps POV to describe the targets as "criminals". I once reported an "investigative journalist" from the Sun to Crimestoppers whereupon the plod informed me "That's not crime sir. It's journalism." Perhaps that is why the police seem to have been unable to investigate the NoW phone hacking- the suggestion being that they were too "close" to News International or that the NoW had "something" on them. The question to be asked is - to what extent does press freedom for the likes of Mahmood and his colleagues contribute or detract from our liberty? Apprently press freedom is more important than anything else. I think I read that somewhere - a newspaper. Well they would say that, wouldn't they?
It's a minor point, but a couple of times the article says that Mahmood "posed" as the fake sheikh. Surely he IS a fake sheikh and he poses as a real one? Earldelawarr ( talk) 11:54, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
Do NOT add any image of the article subject unless you're 100% certain that it's the correct person. There are several people with the same or similar names who are not associated with the subject! Asav | Talk (Member of the OTRS Volunteer Response Team) 23:03, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
I have deleted material sourced only to Rebecca Television, as the impression I get is that this is a blog and that Rebecca Television is an individual, who may indeed be the editor who posted this material. If this material has been broadcast, or otherwise published in a source with consequential reputation, such as a newspaper, please give details and reinstate. Bluehotel ( talk) 10:51, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Given the renewed interest in this character ("judge Alistair McCreath said he believed Mahmood had lied in the witness stand") it seems sensible that I post the deleted quote here for the benefit of other editors. So far as I can tell Rebecca TV remains in action, run indeed by someone called Paddy French who worked as a journalist for ITV for ten years:-
Testbed ( talk) 18:54, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Editors might want to be wary of unfairly extemporising on what they think the present position means. For example, the CPS has not said that it is investigating Mahmood with a view to perjury charges, as a recent edit said. The courts are in a position to find his evidence unsafe and revisit convictions without going the next, and much more difficult, step of imputing motives. Bluehotel ( talk) 19:31, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29985604
Not adding it to the article because of some WP:RS concerns.
Perhaps someone more familiar with the subject matter could comment? Sfan00 IMG ( talk) 20:19, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
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The article lacks a photograph of the subject in the usual place. Several media sources have published Mazher Mahmood's police custody photograph making it 100% clear it's the man this article's about.
E.g.,
Press Gazette Mazher Mahmood's cover is blown as custody picture released and his image widely used by media
Mail Online British reporter 'Fake Sheikh' jailed for 15 months
BBC News Mazher Mahmood: 'Fake Sheikh' jailed over Tulisa case
The Irish News 'Fake Sheikh' Mazher Mahmood facing jail after guilty verdict in Tulisa case
The Guardian Mazher Mahmood: a timeline of the 'Fake Sheikh's rise and fall
BuzzFeed “Fake Sheikh” Journalist Mazher Mahmood Jailed For Evidence Tampering
I don't know the proper procedure for causing one of these confirmed photos to appear on the article page. Could someone either give me advice on what to do or take the appropriate steps themselves?
Michael F 1967 ( talk) 22:44, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
"The programme also included unseen footage..."
How can a televison program include unseen footage.
Did the writer mean previously unseen? Or perhaps the footage was not shown but only described? it is not clear.
If the footage was shown, it can't be "unseen" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:777C:C750:B556:C29A:F8AE:4847 ( talk) 22:24, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
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I think that the use of the word "victim" in this article is highly POV. It is quite strange to speak of people who were sent to jail after being the subject of investigative journalism as "victims". I recommend the use of more neutral language throughout.-- Jimbo Wales 15:35, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
It is not up to wikipedia to make that value judgment. Take it out.-- Jimbo Wales 14:31, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
does anybody know where i can find a transcipt of the interview with the countess of w?
thanks —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
78.48.200.97 (
talk) 16:52, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
Having brought the articles references up to date, I am concerned that employees of News International are adding/subtracting to the article: some of the IP address trace directly back to their HQ. Hence have added the autobiog tag Rgds, -- Trident13 ( talk) 20:41, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Whilst I do not read the NoW, it now appears that there are more criminals working for it than being investigated. In fact many of the "crimes" committed appear to have been provoked and the perpetrators entrapped, so it is perhaps POV to describe the targets as "criminals". I once reported an "investigative journalist" from the Sun to Crimestoppers whereupon the plod informed me "That's not crime sir. It's journalism." Perhaps that is why the police seem to have been unable to investigate the NoW phone hacking- the suggestion being that they were too "close" to News International or that the NoW had "something" on them. The question to be asked is - to what extent does press freedom for the likes of Mahmood and his colleagues contribute or detract from our liberty? Apprently press freedom is more important than anything else. I think I read that somewhere - a newspaper. Well they would say that, wouldn't they?
It's a minor point, but a couple of times the article says that Mahmood "posed" as the fake sheikh. Surely he IS a fake sheikh and he poses as a real one? Earldelawarr ( talk) 11:54, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
Do NOT add any image of the article subject unless you're 100% certain that it's the correct person. There are several people with the same or similar names who are not associated with the subject! Asav | Talk (Member of the OTRS Volunteer Response Team) 23:03, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
I have deleted material sourced only to Rebecca Television, as the impression I get is that this is a blog and that Rebecca Television is an individual, who may indeed be the editor who posted this material. If this material has been broadcast, or otherwise published in a source with consequential reputation, such as a newspaper, please give details and reinstate. Bluehotel ( talk) 10:51, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Given the renewed interest in this character ("judge Alistair McCreath said he believed Mahmood had lied in the witness stand") it seems sensible that I post the deleted quote here for the benefit of other editors. So far as I can tell Rebecca TV remains in action, run indeed by someone called Paddy French who worked as a journalist for ITV for ten years:-
Testbed ( talk) 18:54, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Editors might want to be wary of unfairly extemporising on what they think the present position means. For example, the CPS has not said that it is investigating Mahmood with a view to perjury charges, as a recent edit said. The courts are in a position to find his evidence unsafe and revisit convictions without going the next, and much more difficult, step of imputing motives. Bluehotel ( talk) 19:31, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29985604
Not adding it to the article because of some WP:RS concerns.
Perhaps someone more familiar with the subject matter could comment? Sfan00 IMG ( talk) 20:19, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 09:20, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
The article lacks a photograph of the subject in the usual place. Several media sources have published Mazher Mahmood's police custody photograph making it 100% clear it's the man this article's about.
E.g.,
Press Gazette Mazher Mahmood's cover is blown as custody picture released and his image widely used by media
Mail Online British reporter 'Fake Sheikh' jailed for 15 months
BBC News Mazher Mahmood: 'Fake Sheikh' jailed over Tulisa case
The Irish News 'Fake Sheikh' Mazher Mahmood facing jail after guilty verdict in Tulisa case
The Guardian Mazher Mahmood: a timeline of the 'Fake Sheikh's rise and fall
BuzzFeed “Fake Sheikh” Journalist Mazher Mahmood Jailed For Evidence Tampering
I don't know the proper procedure for causing one of these confirmed photos to appear on the article page. Could someone either give me advice on what to do or take the appropriate steps themselves?
Michael F 1967 ( talk) 22:44, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
"The programme also included unseen footage..."
How can a televison program include unseen footage.
Did the writer mean previously unseen? Or perhaps the footage was not shown but only described? it is not clear.
If the footage was shown, it can't be "unseen" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:777C:C750:B556:C29A:F8AE:4847 ( talk) 22:24, 22 June 2018 (UTC)