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The result of the move request was: Moved.Unanimous consensus. Winged Blades Godric 11:51, 27 July 2017 (UTC)( non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric 11:51, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
– Consistency among all articles on directly elected mayors in England and Wales. Most of them already follow the short form, see {{ Directly elected mayors in the United Kingdom}}. "Not to be confused" hatnotes ({{ distinguish}}) should be added where appropriate, pointing to the "Civic mayor of X" articles. Detailed rationale is at Talk:Mayor of Doncaster#Requested move 6 July 2017. — JFG talk 00:38, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
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Wikipedia's policy on article titles.This needs discussion IMO. In the previous RM cited above, one editor commented The civic mayor of Doncaster is an entirely unnotable post. Every town and city in the country has one, and they usually just serve for a year or two doing ceremonial things only, like opening leisure centres. The elected mayor, however, is a figure with genuine powers, elected by the people. (my emphasis)
And yet we do have articles on several civic mayors... there seems no push to AfD them, and I don't suggest it. They easily pass WP:GNG despite this comment.
Is it possible that the significance and/or prominence of these positions is being overlooked as well as their notability? I think it is likely. The exercise of ceremonial powers is likely to appear often in reliable sources, in which they would simply be described as mayor. So by that criterion, the civic mayors may even be primary topics. Andrewa ( talk) 04:50, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
@ Sb2001: The ceremonial mayors are largely un-notable positions, and have alternative titles when used in conjunction with a directly elected Mayor. See the Civic Ambassador in Newham (now abolished), as an example of this. The widespread use of elected mayors is making the need to differentiate unnecessary in all but cases of genuine confusion. Places without a directly elected Mayor will generally have no article on their purely ceremonial mayor. This move is a genuine no brainer in terms of brevity, simplicity and common name usage. Sport and politics ( talk) 17:44, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Moved.Unanimous consensus. Winged Blades Godric 11:51, 27 July 2017 (UTC)( non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric 11:51, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
– Consistency among all articles on directly elected mayors in England and Wales. Most of them already follow the short form, see {{ Directly elected mayors in the United Kingdom}}. "Not to be confused" hatnotes ({{ distinguish}}) should be added where appropriate, pointing to the "Civic mayor of X" articles. Detailed rationale is at Talk:Mayor of Doncaster#Requested move 6 July 2017. — JFG talk 00:38, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
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polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account
Wikipedia's policy on article titles.This needs discussion IMO. In the previous RM cited above, one editor commented The civic mayor of Doncaster is an entirely unnotable post. Every town and city in the country has one, and they usually just serve for a year or two doing ceremonial things only, like opening leisure centres. The elected mayor, however, is a figure with genuine powers, elected by the people. (my emphasis)
And yet we do have articles on several civic mayors... there seems no push to AfD them, and I don't suggest it. They easily pass WP:GNG despite this comment.
Is it possible that the significance and/or prominence of these positions is being overlooked as well as their notability? I think it is likely. The exercise of ceremonial powers is likely to appear often in reliable sources, in which they would simply be described as mayor. So by that criterion, the civic mayors may even be primary topics. Andrewa ( talk) 04:50, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
@ Sb2001: The ceremonial mayors are largely un-notable positions, and have alternative titles when used in conjunction with a directly elected Mayor. See the Civic Ambassador in Newham (now abolished), as an example of this. The widespread use of elected mayors is making the need to differentiate unnecessary in all but cases of genuine confusion. Places without a directly elected Mayor will generally have no article on their purely ceremonial mayor. This move is a genuine no brainer in terms of brevity, simplicity and common name usage. Sport and politics ( talk) 17:44, 19 July 2017 (UTC)