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The following about Maya is not attributed to any source and is only for understanding what it is.
The fog of ignorance. At any point of time, there are sages (what are these) who see certain truths (reality) as absolutely apparent, plain clear in sight and inevitable in consequence but they also witness that the vast majority of others or even everyone else, or those in power cannot understand, see, comprehend any of it. It is as weird as say an astronomer who can see an asteroid coming towards Earth in 10 years but no one else can understand or see the urgency in it. It would appear that everyone else is drunk in distraction, lack of the ability of paying attention, particularly in holding attention (dhyana) that would be required to see all the steps that would be required to comprehend the disaster. To the sage, this inability in others would appear so incredible in lunacy that it would appear like everyone is held in a spell external to the world of humans itself that it is even possible. He could attribute it to the curse on his times that everyone is held in such ignorance, arrogance, power drunk state that they cant see their own looming disaster. Such could be a feeling of a climate scientist who knows what is truly happening and what needs the attention amongst all the misinformation both pro and anti. That he fails to penetrate into the minds of people through this wall of ignorance would be the Maya. People busily going about their daily lives. Men worrying about tomorrows earning, women of the hearth today, young people of their love lives, sex, tv, sports and fun. Scientists whose job it is running for medals, papers and positions. Societies leaders only serving their egos. The government which everyone assumes is responsible totally incompetent, corrupt and short term in thinking, complacent, easygoing and not being taken to task. The media incompetent, corrupt and liars. He may find no one who can understand and would feel helpless in the hands of that powerful world spanning sway of ignorance. That which he knows for sure and can easily explain to another, no one is ready to see. All of these circumstances and this impenetrable worldwide wall of ignorance that faces him is the Maya. It is that same thing which is discussed at the point of Buddha's enlightenment, where Maya has managed to ensure that no one is a witness to Buddha's penance and truth, everyone had been distracted and away. So he says that only Earth has been his incorruptible witness an so it is.
How can this happen ? In that scale ? Is that question from which the religious/theological seeking of the explanations have arisen. The extraordinary pervading of this impenetrable fog of ignorance, united suspension of common sense, the inability in all to pay attention or comprehend suggests that it is not explainable rationally. So one has to look beyond it. And where it well may be.
That hustle that everyone is busy in everyday, raising their children for the day, attached to them but only with the short term understanding of his impending fate, that same ignorance that occludes from him the matters that should be his burning concern today is that same fog of ignorance often descibed as Maya and in the same sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.187.62.160 ( talk) 13:24, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Can anyone find (and hopefully translate the gist to English) some articles by actual Hindu scholars on this topic? I can't help but notice that the main sources cited are Western Orientalists who may be foisting their own notions onto an ancient religion. Tibbius ( talk) 01:08, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
find (and hopefully translate the gist to English), that's a clear violation of WP:OR. Why do you need Hindu scholars? What's wrong with
Westernscholars?
foisting their own notions onto an ancient religioncitation needed — Wiki Linuz ( 💬 ) 16:53, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
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The following about Maya is not attributed to any source and is only for understanding what it is.
The fog of ignorance. At any point of time, there are sages (what are these) who see certain truths (reality) as absolutely apparent, plain clear in sight and inevitable in consequence but they also witness that the vast majority of others or even everyone else, or those in power cannot understand, see, comprehend any of it. It is as weird as say an astronomer who can see an asteroid coming towards Earth in 10 years but no one else can understand or see the urgency in it. It would appear that everyone else is drunk in distraction, lack of the ability of paying attention, particularly in holding attention (dhyana) that would be required to see all the steps that would be required to comprehend the disaster. To the sage, this inability in others would appear so incredible in lunacy that it would appear like everyone is held in a spell external to the world of humans itself that it is even possible. He could attribute it to the curse on his times that everyone is held in such ignorance, arrogance, power drunk state that they cant see their own looming disaster. Such could be a feeling of a climate scientist who knows what is truly happening and what needs the attention amongst all the misinformation both pro and anti. That he fails to penetrate into the minds of people through this wall of ignorance would be the Maya. People busily going about their daily lives. Men worrying about tomorrows earning, women of the hearth today, young people of their love lives, sex, tv, sports and fun. Scientists whose job it is running for medals, papers and positions. Societies leaders only serving their egos. The government which everyone assumes is responsible totally incompetent, corrupt and short term in thinking, complacent, easygoing and not being taken to task. The media incompetent, corrupt and liars. He may find no one who can understand and would feel helpless in the hands of that powerful world spanning sway of ignorance. That which he knows for sure and can easily explain to another, no one is ready to see. All of these circumstances and this impenetrable worldwide wall of ignorance that faces him is the Maya. It is that same thing which is discussed at the point of Buddha's enlightenment, where Maya has managed to ensure that no one is a witness to Buddha's penance and truth, everyone had been distracted and away. So he says that only Earth has been his incorruptible witness an so it is.
How can this happen ? In that scale ? Is that question from which the religious/theological seeking of the explanations have arisen. The extraordinary pervading of this impenetrable fog of ignorance, united suspension of common sense, the inability in all to pay attention or comprehend suggests that it is not explainable rationally. So one has to look beyond it. And where it well may be.
That hustle that everyone is busy in everyday, raising their children for the day, attached to them but only with the short term understanding of his impending fate, that same ignorance that occludes from him the matters that should be his burning concern today is that same fog of ignorance often descibed as Maya and in the same sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.187.62.160 ( talk) 13:24, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Can anyone find (and hopefully translate the gist to English) some articles by actual Hindu scholars on this topic? I can't help but notice that the main sources cited are Western Orientalists who may be foisting their own notions onto an ancient religion. Tibbius ( talk) 01:08, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
find (and hopefully translate the gist to English), that's a clear violation of WP:OR. Why do you need Hindu scholars? What's wrong with
Westernscholars?
foisting their own notions onto an ancient religioncitation needed — Wiki Linuz ( 💬 ) 16:53, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
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