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Whilst I appreciate the 'efforts' of some to write extended entries for Max Woosnam, I would be grateful if they could desist. It is clear that they are merely taking large chunks from a biography of the man, written by myself and published a couple of weeks ago. The last entry was over 3,000 words, much of it lifted directly from my book, without thought for copyright or courtesy. Having spent several years piecing together Woosnam's life, I would be grateful if those, particularly someone who professes to be an author himself, would ponder for a moment before lifting large excerpts of my work to provide an internet entry. Thank you. Mick Collins
I can't comment on the charge of copyright infringement but the [ last significant edit] of this article suffered POV issues and was in desperate need of a rewrite. Future edits should avoid the rhetoric and social commentary and stick to the facts. The current verion looks pretty good to me. BFD1 15:38, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
In my opinion a definate copyright infringement has taken place here. I'm not sure if it would be considered so in terms of the the wiki guidelines, and do be honest I don't care, because looking at it from the legal perspective a fairly massive plagerism took place. Just because the text is not identical to Collin's work does not mean it is not a plagerism. I think Mr Collins is quite right to be unhappy that this has happened after conducting the only major research on Maxwell Woosnam. It is in the interest of wikipedia.org to remove the previous version from the history of the article, along with any other archived instances. If I was in the position of Mr Collins I would have commenced litigation immediately. I'm not connected with Mr Collins, just a bit sick of how wikipedia seems to think it has a license to operate above and beyond the law, defaming people along the way, while maintaining a beligerent attitude towards culpabilty. Mr Collins has conducted real in-depth research, burrying his head in hard to find documents, and first person interviews, unlike the rag tag bunch of TV-Times excerpts that fabricate 90% of Wikipedia. It is rediculous to claim that a massive article that springs up immediately after the only first book on the subject in 70 years is in no way plagerising or infringing the copyrights of the book's author. McGonicle 14:18, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
What a self-important, pompous little prig. If you dont like it you know what to do, where to go, etc. Samgb 12:32, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Cricinfo, quoting Wisden, has this to say:
That doesn't fit with the "While there he earned five blues" in the article. Wisden isn't foolproof of course, but something's not quite right somewhere. Loganberry ( Talk) 23:29, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
It's difficult to argue this line. He achieved one appearance for England at one sport. CB Fry represented England at cricket and football, chalking up 26 Tests in the former, in the days when Tests were few and far between. Add a world record for long jump and various other accomplishments, and I think Woosnam would probably be in (glorious) second place to Fry. -- Dweller 18:42, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
His life is chronicled in the book All Round Genius - The Unknown Story of Britain's Greatest Sportsman, by Mick Collins.
Collins, Mick (2006). All-Round Genius: The Unknown Story of Britain's Greatest Sportsman. London: Aurum Press Limited. ISBN 1-84513-137-1.
I'm pretty sure the link in the above sentence and the authorlink for the above citation (currently number one) are pointing to a different Mick Collins, but the disambig for Michael Collins doesn't to list anyone who seems to me to be the right Mick. Should we just remove the authorlink from the citation?
Mr. Collins, if you're still here, could you set it straight?
(Also cited in Hyde Road, Table Tennis, Butter knife, and Hylton Philipson, with the former two having no authorlink and the latter two having the same issue as this article's citation.)
P1h3r1e3d13 03:25, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
"He once pedalled a beer bike single handedly from Rembrandt Square to Saturn's Outer Moon while truffled off his tits and with Blue's Greatest Hits on repeat, taking his top off and nailing every mucky coffee shop assistant he passed" what does this even mean — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.78.103.94 ( talk) 17:40, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
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Whilst I appreciate the 'efforts' of some to write extended entries for Max Woosnam, I would be grateful if they could desist. It is clear that they are merely taking large chunks from a biography of the man, written by myself and published a couple of weeks ago. The last entry was over 3,000 words, much of it lifted directly from my book, without thought for copyright or courtesy. Having spent several years piecing together Woosnam's life, I would be grateful if those, particularly someone who professes to be an author himself, would ponder for a moment before lifting large excerpts of my work to provide an internet entry. Thank you. Mick Collins
I can't comment on the charge of copyright infringement but the [ last significant edit] of this article suffered POV issues and was in desperate need of a rewrite. Future edits should avoid the rhetoric and social commentary and stick to the facts. The current verion looks pretty good to me. BFD1 15:38, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
In my opinion a definate copyright infringement has taken place here. I'm not sure if it would be considered so in terms of the the wiki guidelines, and do be honest I don't care, because looking at it from the legal perspective a fairly massive plagerism took place. Just because the text is not identical to Collin's work does not mean it is not a plagerism. I think Mr Collins is quite right to be unhappy that this has happened after conducting the only major research on Maxwell Woosnam. It is in the interest of wikipedia.org to remove the previous version from the history of the article, along with any other archived instances. If I was in the position of Mr Collins I would have commenced litigation immediately. I'm not connected with Mr Collins, just a bit sick of how wikipedia seems to think it has a license to operate above and beyond the law, defaming people along the way, while maintaining a beligerent attitude towards culpabilty. Mr Collins has conducted real in-depth research, burrying his head in hard to find documents, and first person interviews, unlike the rag tag bunch of TV-Times excerpts that fabricate 90% of Wikipedia. It is rediculous to claim that a massive article that springs up immediately after the only first book on the subject in 70 years is in no way plagerising or infringing the copyrights of the book's author. McGonicle 14:18, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
What a self-important, pompous little prig. If you dont like it you know what to do, where to go, etc. Samgb 12:32, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Cricinfo, quoting Wisden, has this to say:
That doesn't fit with the "While there he earned five blues" in the article. Wisden isn't foolproof of course, but something's not quite right somewhere. Loganberry ( Talk) 23:29, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
It's difficult to argue this line. He achieved one appearance for England at one sport. CB Fry represented England at cricket and football, chalking up 26 Tests in the former, in the days when Tests were few and far between. Add a world record for long jump and various other accomplishments, and I think Woosnam would probably be in (glorious) second place to Fry. -- Dweller 18:42, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
His life is chronicled in the book All Round Genius - The Unknown Story of Britain's Greatest Sportsman, by Mick Collins.
Collins, Mick (2006). All-Round Genius: The Unknown Story of Britain's Greatest Sportsman. London: Aurum Press Limited. ISBN 1-84513-137-1.
I'm pretty sure the link in the above sentence and the authorlink for the above citation (currently number one) are pointing to a different Mick Collins, but the disambig for Michael Collins doesn't to list anyone who seems to me to be the right Mick. Should we just remove the authorlink from the citation?
Mr. Collins, if you're still here, could you set it straight?
(Also cited in Hyde Road, Table Tennis, Butter knife, and Hylton Philipson, with the former two having no authorlink and the latter two having the same issue as this article's citation.)
P1h3r1e3d13 03:25, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
"He once pedalled a beer bike single handedly from Rembrandt Square to Saturn's Outer Moon while truffled off his tits and with Blue's Greatest Hits on repeat, taking his top off and nailing every mucky coffee shop assistant he passed" what does this even mean — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.78.103.94 ( talk) 17:40, 2 February 2013 (UTC)