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Max's own bullet time abilities seem to mirror these of the berserkers, Norse Viking warriors who drove themselves into such a frenzy when they entered battle that they seemed superhumanly strong, fast, untiring, and unable to feel pain (the theme of Payne's necklace is a Viking longship).
How about Max Payne himself, as in "max(imum) pain"? Is he able to endure, ignore, or not feel even extreme pain? I've never played the game myself, and the article doesn't mention it, but it sure seems like a likely connection if true.
Since the article's subsection "Norse mythology references" provides no verifiable secondary reliable sources for the proposed connections between the characters and things in the game and the elements from Norse mythology whose names or notable* characteristics they share, the entire subsection must, as
Rhain and
Maplestrip have pointed out, be considered
original research and removed from the article.
* in the everyday, not the
Wikipedia, sense of the word
However, since this pattern of connections is as plain as the eyepatch on (Mr.) Woden's face to anyone who knows any Norse mythology, and all the Norse elements are well described on their own linked pages, it would be a shame to delete it entirely. And since
WP:NOR flat-out says "This policy of no original research does not apply to talk pages", I am adding the subsection to this Talk page comment, below, and reformatting it as a bullet-timeded list.
Most of the elements in the game are named for figures from Norse mythology.
In Max Payne, the Valkyr drug is a fictional military
performance enhancer that turns its users into
adrenaline-charged killers who experience hallucinatory images of death. The
valkyries of Norse mythology were warrior-women who watched over battlefields, the "choosers of the slain" who took those who died with valor.
In the game, Project Valhalla is the government conspiracy that developed Valkyr to enhance the combat effectiveness of U.S. soldiers and secretly tested it during the
Gulf War of 1991. In Norse mythology,
Valhalla was the afterlife of those selected by the valkyries: those who populated Valhalla would fight for the Norse gods in their wars.
The computer network in the Valhalla base is named
Yggdrasil, referring to the tree that connected the nine worlds in
Norse cosmology.
The Aesir Corporation, mentioned frequently in the game and the primary source of the Valkyr drug, is named for the primary pantheon of Norse gods, the
Æsir.
The head of the Aesir Corporation is named Nicole Horne; in the myths, the
Gjallarhorn was sounded to announce the start of
Ragnarök, the Norse
apocalypse, a battle between the Æsir and the giants that results in the death of many deities and the rebirth of the world (Jack Lupino's
gothicnightclub named Ragna Rock is a play on the word "Ragnarök").
The great snowstorm that takes place during the events of the game is a reference to the
Fimbulvetr, an epic winter that precedes Ragnarök.[1]
Alfred Woden's surname refers to
Wōden, the
Anglo-Saxon version of
Odin, a major god of the Norse pantheon (his eyepatch also references Odin, who sacrificed his eye for wisdom and knowledge).
Max meets him and the Inner Circle in the Asgard Building:
Asgard is the Norse realm in which the gods live.
In the game, DEA agent Alex Balder was shot by his partner B.B. In Norse mythology,
Balder was killed when a sprig or arrow of
mistletoe was shot or thrown into his chest; his death was set up by
Loki, god of chaos and deception, just as B.B. deceived Alex and Max.
Max's own bullet time abilities seem to mirror these of the
berserkers, Norse
Viking warriors who drove themselves into such a frenzy when they entered battle that they seemed superhumanly strong, fast, untiring, and unable to feel pain (the theme of Payne's necklace is a Viking
longship).
The PS4 version is the PS2 version emulated to run on the modern hardware, and was not ported, wherefore we don't include it here.
Lordtobi (
✉)
13:55, 28 June 2017 (UTC)reply
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This article is within the scope of WikiProject Finland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
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Max's own bullet time abilities seem to mirror these of the berserkers, Norse Viking warriors who drove themselves into such a frenzy when they entered battle that they seemed superhumanly strong, fast, untiring, and unable to feel pain (the theme of Payne's necklace is a Viking longship).
How about Max Payne himself, as in "max(imum) pain"? Is he able to endure, ignore, or not feel even extreme pain? I've never played the game myself, and the article doesn't mention it, but it sure seems like a likely connection if true.
Since the article's subsection "Norse mythology references" provides no verifiable secondary reliable sources for the proposed connections between the characters and things in the game and the elements from Norse mythology whose names or notable* characteristics they share, the entire subsection must, as
Rhain and
Maplestrip have pointed out, be considered
original research and removed from the article.
* in the everyday, not the
Wikipedia, sense of the word
However, since this pattern of connections is as plain as the eyepatch on (Mr.) Woden's face to anyone who knows any Norse mythology, and all the Norse elements are well described on their own linked pages, it would be a shame to delete it entirely. And since
WP:NOR flat-out says "This policy of no original research does not apply to talk pages", I am adding the subsection to this Talk page comment, below, and reformatting it as a bullet-timeded list.
Most of the elements in the game are named for figures from Norse mythology.
In Max Payne, the Valkyr drug is a fictional military
performance enhancer that turns its users into
adrenaline-charged killers who experience hallucinatory images of death. The
valkyries of Norse mythology were warrior-women who watched over battlefields, the "choosers of the slain" who took those who died with valor.
In the game, Project Valhalla is the government conspiracy that developed Valkyr to enhance the combat effectiveness of U.S. soldiers and secretly tested it during the
Gulf War of 1991. In Norse mythology,
Valhalla was the afterlife of those selected by the valkyries: those who populated Valhalla would fight for the Norse gods in their wars.
The computer network in the Valhalla base is named
Yggdrasil, referring to the tree that connected the nine worlds in
Norse cosmology.
The Aesir Corporation, mentioned frequently in the game and the primary source of the Valkyr drug, is named for the primary pantheon of Norse gods, the
Æsir.
The head of the Aesir Corporation is named Nicole Horne; in the myths, the
Gjallarhorn was sounded to announce the start of
Ragnarök, the Norse
apocalypse, a battle between the Æsir and the giants that results in the death of many deities and the rebirth of the world (Jack Lupino's
gothicnightclub named Ragna Rock is a play on the word "Ragnarök").
The great snowstorm that takes place during the events of the game is a reference to the
Fimbulvetr, an epic winter that precedes Ragnarök.[1]
Alfred Woden's surname refers to
Wōden, the
Anglo-Saxon version of
Odin, a major god of the Norse pantheon (his eyepatch also references Odin, who sacrificed his eye for wisdom and knowledge).
Max meets him and the Inner Circle in the Asgard Building:
Asgard is the Norse realm in which the gods live.
In the game, DEA agent Alex Balder was shot by his partner B.B. In Norse mythology,
Balder was killed when a sprig or arrow of
mistletoe was shot or thrown into his chest; his death was set up by
Loki, god of chaos and deception, just as B.B. deceived Alex and Max.
Max's own bullet time abilities seem to mirror these of the
berserkers, Norse
Viking warriors who drove themselves into such a frenzy when they entered battle that they seemed superhumanly strong, fast, untiring, and unable to feel pain (the theme of Payne's necklace is a Viking
longship).
The PS4 version is the PS2 version emulated to run on the modern hardware, and was not ported, wherefore we don't include it here.
Lordtobi (
✉)
13:55, 28 June 2017 (UTC)reply