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Does anybody know the bibliographical details? So far, this seems to be only hearsay info... -- Jonas kork ( talk) 19:17, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Some of his publications are listed on the webpage set up by one of his sons: http://agrestm.people.cofc.edu/PCBIBLIOG.html The 1959 article is not among them. In 1963, Sagan mentions Agrest, but gives no reference other than Shklovskii (Sagan, Carl: "Direct contact among galactic civilizations by relativistic interstellar spaceflight", in: Planetary and Space Science 11 (1963), pp. 485-498). In Shklovskii's/Sagan's collaboration, I think the year 1959 is given, but again no bibliographic reference, IIRC. I found an (unanswered) request on an h-net mailing list. It seems to originate with Agrest's son Mikhail (the professor at Charleston mentioned in the mail). The requested article is not by Agrest himself, but seems to be about him. Suspiciously, the date given (Feb 9, 1959) appears elsewhere (google books) as Feb 9, 1960, but the only reference is a much later Agrest article (note 3 on p. 330 of the book). Fitzpatrick-Matthews (quoted below) gives a reference that fits the h-net/ Charleston request remarkably well. But it is from 1960, not 1959. I tend to conclude that 1959 might have been an error on the side of Shklovskii (or whoever else), and that there was never a paleo-contact article by or about Agrest before 1960. But it's just a guess. -- Jonas kork ( talk) 14:53, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
"Valentin Isaakovich Rich and Mikhail Borisovy Chernenko published the article “Hypotheses, assumptions and guesses: does the trail lead into space?” in the magazine Новое Русское Слово (Current Digest of the Russian Press, a Russian language newspaper published in the USA since 1910) Volume 12 No 9 (30 March 1960), p 24-6. This was a complete reprint of an article that had originally appeared in Литературная газета (Literaturnaya Gazeta) 9 February 1960, p 2, discussing the speculations of Matest M Agrest (1915-2005) that aliens might have visited earth in the remote past and left traces of their arrival." [1]
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Does anybody know the bibliographical details? So far, this seems to be only hearsay info... -- Jonas kork ( talk) 19:17, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Some of his publications are listed on the webpage set up by one of his sons: http://agrestm.people.cofc.edu/PCBIBLIOG.html The 1959 article is not among them. In 1963, Sagan mentions Agrest, but gives no reference other than Shklovskii (Sagan, Carl: "Direct contact among galactic civilizations by relativistic interstellar spaceflight", in: Planetary and Space Science 11 (1963), pp. 485-498). In Shklovskii's/Sagan's collaboration, I think the year 1959 is given, but again no bibliographic reference, IIRC. I found an (unanswered) request on an h-net mailing list. It seems to originate with Agrest's son Mikhail (the professor at Charleston mentioned in the mail). The requested article is not by Agrest himself, but seems to be about him. Suspiciously, the date given (Feb 9, 1959) appears elsewhere (google books) as Feb 9, 1960, but the only reference is a much later Agrest article (note 3 on p. 330 of the book). Fitzpatrick-Matthews (quoted below) gives a reference that fits the h-net/ Charleston request remarkably well. But it is from 1960, not 1959. I tend to conclude that 1959 might have been an error on the side of Shklovskii (or whoever else), and that there was never a paleo-contact article by or about Agrest before 1960. But it's just a guess. -- Jonas kork ( talk) 14:53, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
"Valentin Isaakovich Rich and Mikhail Borisovy Chernenko published the article “Hypotheses, assumptions and guesses: does the trail lead into space?” in the magazine Новое Русское Слово (Current Digest of the Russian Press, a Russian language newspaper published in the USA since 1910) Volume 12 No 9 (30 March 1960), p 24-6. This was a complete reprint of an article that had originally appeared in Литературная газета (Literaturnaya Gazeta) 9 February 1960, p 2, discussing the speculations of Matest M Agrest (1915-2005) that aliens might have visited earth in the remote past and left traces of their arrival." [1]