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This band is not an alternative rock band. Alternative rock is a form of rock that is an alternative to what is mainstream. Matchbox 20 is as mainstream as a band can get.
I'm not sure how to add the source in, but More than you think you are went 5x platinum in Australia. See here http://www.aria.com.au/pages/aria-charts-accreditations-albums-2004.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.218.79.216 ( talk) 08:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I agree with the first comment. Matchbox 20 is most definitely not an alternative rock band, I changed the link to modern rock, the two are sometimes interchangable but modern rock is more accurate.
maxcap 11:57, 1 October 2005 (UTC) Reverted alt rock to modern rock. As the definition is presented in Wikipedia, Matchbox Twenty fits the bill nicely. Alt rock, not so much. It might be considered lazy to reference Wikipedia, so you can refer to this SPIN magazine article [ [1]] from 1998. Matchbox Twenty certainly hasn't become less mainstream since then. They were certainly marketed as an alternative band initially, but just about any [ [2]] act with a guitar was marketed as such in the mid 90's.
Something many visitors would be interested in is the origin of the group's name. Can someone add that?
-- AlanH 02:08, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
I have heard many rumors about how they got their name. The most interesting one is that they use to play under the name Jeep... however due to trademark reasons they had to change their name. So they picked matchbox twenty, being that the number twenty car in the matchbox collection is a Jeep.... any truth to it? Not sure I am not in the band... but it is an interesting thought...
I have no source to cite, but when Matchbox Twenty came to our school around 1997, part of their contract stated that all promotional materials refer to the band as "matchbox20." No space between the matchbox and the 20 and the lowercase m was preferred. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.137.135.59 ( talk) 20:59, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Someone added that the band will be reuniting in 2006 for a fourth album. I can't find any information about this anywhere else except sites that copy Wikipedia. Please add a reference to this information. ~ Hibana 18:52, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
I've seen various places that there is an album of a live concert in Sydney. One track from this concert can be found on the data content on Mad Season. Is this an official release? If so, it should be added to the discography I think. Tosus 09:11, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Things like Unwell are most certainly not grunge. MT is post-grunge-ish, but not 'modern rock'. 'Modern rock' is a radio format, not genre. -- 69.145.122.209 02:53, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I know it's a radio format. I'm trying to make a point, get it? maxcap 23:54, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Is the discography correct?
http://www.rockonthenet.com/artists-m/matchbox20.htm
Has something different on it, and All I need was released as a single (in Australia at least).
I'm going to replace the stub on this article. The article in many parts doesn't cite it's facts, is poorly written and lacks overall content and information. A stub doesn't simply apply for short articles, but also for articles that are either poorly written or don't comply to Wikipedia standards.
Lincalinca 07:09, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Why does this article have a wrongtitle tag on it, saying that the article's title should be "Matchbox 20", and then the article text starts out by saying that the band's proper name is "Matchbox Twenty"? I believe there is no technical limitation to naming the article "Matchbox 20" if that's the proper name, but the article indicates it isn't, so should the wrongtitle tag be removed? - Brian Kendig 03:16, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
The band's web site uses the name "matchbox twenty" in lower case, so I'm guessing that's the proper way to spell the band's name now. Which raises another question: since the first letter of the article name has to be capitalized, shouldn't it be Matchbox twenty, instead of Matchbox Twenty? If the band's name is supposed to be all lower case, then what's the point of capitalizing Twenty, other than that it "looks better" that way? - Brian Kendig 14:59, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Looking at a band's album covers to determine the capitalization of its name is a pointless exercise: graphic designers might decide to render a name entirely in lower case, entirely in upper case, or an unconventional mixture, merely to achieve a certain look. If there's a source in which a legitimate band representative says, oh yes definitely it should always appear always lower case, cite it. Otherwise, the name should be capitalized in the standard format. (My typing these four sentences is ten times as much time as anyone should spend thinking about Matchbox Twenty.) 2fs 04:53, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
The name can be correctly formatted as Matchbox Twenty, Matchbox twenty, or matchbox twenty. Refer to the Atlantic Records websites and related press releases: [14] [15] Adraeus 06:22, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
The official name is matchbox twenty. However, I don't have the official source for it, so I'm going to keep looking, then change it. -- NukeMTV 15:45, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
(deindent) Your interpretation of the "unless it is unique" bit has a central flaw: If it would apply to all cases of non-standard capitalization of album titles or band names, the rest of the paragraph it is from would be entirely without purpose. That is probably why WP:ALBUMS did not adopt this clause in the first place and there is still WP:MOS-TM, which clearly states that all-lowercase trademarks should be capitalized.
Also note that I do not appreciate the attitude you are displaying in this dispute, like stepping over good faith edits of two fellow editors without seeking a productive discussion first, your confrontational tone here and [removed, due to a misunderstanding]. - Cyrus XIII 07:25, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was Move Duja ► 11:55, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Matchbox twenty → Matchbox Twenty — We generally use title case for names of bands, regardless of whether the band themselves use stylized typography. (See, for example Kiss (band).) Relevant guidelines are WP:MOSTM, WP:MOSCL, and WP:MUSTARD; see also the above discussion. GTBacchus( talk) 08:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Not to stir up more trouble if consensus has already been reached, but why did the move from matchbox twenty to Matchbox Twenty happen? There's clear precedent for humoring musicians when they officially render their name in odd ways, such as blink-182, mewithoutYou, k.d. lang, and of Montreal. (And I do believe that Matt Yeager's interpretation of "unless it is unique" is correct -- if this case doesn't qualify, then what would?) And as per Matt Yeager's other points, again, policy and precedent support putting/keeping the page at matchbox twenty, even if guidelines throw some doubt on it. Purifiedwater 18:25, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Hey Guys,
My name is Orsolya and Im from Budapest, Hungary. I wrote the Hungarian wiki article on Rob Thomas. (You can check it out if you want to, click on the "magyar" link on the left side, it is the longest among all the wiki RT articles.) It's too sad that the English RT and MBT articles are REALLY very poor! You guys should really work on it!!!
Anyway, I just wanted to help you with the pix problem.
If you go to Flickr.com you will find many public pix of Rob and MBT that you could upload to the English Wikipedia and won't have any pix remove anymore!
here is the link: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=matchbox+twenty&page=3
Hope that helps!
xxx, Orsolya (from the Hungarian Wikipedia) ;)
I think that a new picture of the guys now as a quartet would be better since Adam Gaynor left the group in 2005. One of the new pictures from "Exile From Mainstream" would be great. BravesFan2006 06:49 CST USC —Preceding unsigned comment added by BravesFan2006 ( talk • contribs) 11:51, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Is there an infobox (is that what it's called?) for these guys? I can't seem to find one on their pages. Bufftractor53 05:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
This article hints that there was a different name to the band before they named themselves Matchbox 20. Anyone know if they used to be called something else and what it was? Thanks -- 76.243.110.106 ( talk) 19:54, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Tabitha's Secret -- you welcome 72.71.168.26 ( talk) 00:34, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Please don't add additional chartings to the UK singles chart listing without providing sources. The information from chart stats only shows charting on Push, 3AM, If you're gone and disease. If a source is provided to show that other songs charted then adding more chartings is fine, but otherwise they will be removed Hitthat ( talk) 06:12, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Billboard.com named MBT 33rd Hot 100 artist of the decade. See: [16] Pls add it to the article. Thanx, -- OrsolyaVirág ( talk) 22:06, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Exile on Mainstream was a complication album. It shouldn't be counted. So technically, the new album will be the 4th album. Not the 5th! The Man Who Needs No Introduction! ( talk) 20:26, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
At the Indianapolis concert on July 7, Rob Thomas introduced Matt Beck as "and an official member of Matchbox Twenty, Matt Beck". It seems to be most of the promotional material still shows the band as a four piece for their latest album, but this may be a recent change and should be worth keeping an eye out for a reliable source. 16:23, 13 July 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.25.99 ( talk)
In fact; this band is an alternative boy band. This is not rock ‘n’ roll.. 2600:1004:B1A4:4200:519C:87AB:8533:AB46 ( talk) 23:58, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
It's pretty funny someone did this. That, is how you know you are cool.
With the influx of the societal rush to integrate artificial intelligence into our lives, if you go to http://noAiHugs.com ,it will redirect you to the matchbox 20 website. 74.109.219.61 ( talk) 10:49, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
A fact from Matchbox Twenty appeared on Wikipedia's
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This band is not an alternative rock band. Alternative rock is a form of rock that is an alternative to what is mainstream. Matchbox 20 is as mainstream as a band can get.
I'm not sure how to add the source in, but More than you think you are went 5x platinum in Australia. See here http://www.aria.com.au/pages/aria-charts-accreditations-albums-2004.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.218.79.216 ( talk) 08:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I agree with the first comment. Matchbox 20 is most definitely not an alternative rock band, I changed the link to modern rock, the two are sometimes interchangable but modern rock is more accurate.
maxcap 11:57, 1 October 2005 (UTC) Reverted alt rock to modern rock. As the definition is presented in Wikipedia, Matchbox Twenty fits the bill nicely. Alt rock, not so much. It might be considered lazy to reference Wikipedia, so you can refer to this SPIN magazine article [ [1]] from 1998. Matchbox Twenty certainly hasn't become less mainstream since then. They were certainly marketed as an alternative band initially, but just about any [ [2]] act with a guitar was marketed as such in the mid 90's.
Something many visitors would be interested in is the origin of the group's name. Can someone add that?
-- AlanH 02:08, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
I have heard many rumors about how they got their name. The most interesting one is that they use to play under the name Jeep... however due to trademark reasons they had to change their name. So they picked matchbox twenty, being that the number twenty car in the matchbox collection is a Jeep.... any truth to it? Not sure I am not in the band... but it is an interesting thought...
I have no source to cite, but when Matchbox Twenty came to our school around 1997, part of their contract stated that all promotional materials refer to the band as "matchbox20." No space between the matchbox and the 20 and the lowercase m was preferred. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.137.135.59 ( talk) 20:59, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Someone added that the band will be reuniting in 2006 for a fourth album. I can't find any information about this anywhere else except sites that copy Wikipedia. Please add a reference to this information. ~ Hibana 18:52, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
I've seen various places that there is an album of a live concert in Sydney. One track from this concert can be found on the data content on Mad Season. Is this an official release? If so, it should be added to the discography I think. Tosus 09:11, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Things like Unwell are most certainly not grunge. MT is post-grunge-ish, but not 'modern rock'. 'Modern rock' is a radio format, not genre. -- 69.145.122.209 02:53, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I know it's a radio format. I'm trying to make a point, get it? maxcap 23:54, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Is the discography correct?
http://www.rockonthenet.com/artists-m/matchbox20.htm
Has something different on it, and All I need was released as a single (in Australia at least).
I'm going to replace the stub on this article. The article in many parts doesn't cite it's facts, is poorly written and lacks overall content and information. A stub doesn't simply apply for short articles, but also for articles that are either poorly written or don't comply to Wikipedia standards.
Lincalinca 07:09, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Why does this article have a wrongtitle tag on it, saying that the article's title should be "Matchbox 20", and then the article text starts out by saying that the band's proper name is "Matchbox Twenty"? I believe there is no technical limitation to naming the article "Matchbox 20" if that's the proper name, but the article indicates it isn't, so should the wrongtitle tag be removed? - Brian Kendig 03:16, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
The band's web site uses the name "matchbox twenty" in lower case, so I'm guessing that's the proper way to spell the band's name now. Which raises another question: since the first letter of the article name has to be capitalized, shouldn't it be Matchbox twenty, instead of Matchbox Twenty? If the band's name is supposed to be all lower case, then what's the point of capitalizing Twenty, other than that it "looks better" that way? - Brian Kendig 14:59, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Looking at a band's album covers to determine the capitalization of its name is a pointless exercise: graphic designers might decide to render a name entirely in lower case, entirely in upper case, or an unconventional mixture, merely to achieve a certain look. If there's a source in which a legitimate band representative says, oh yes definitely it should always appear always lower case, cite it. Otherwise, the name should be capitalized in the standard format. (My typing these four sentences is ten times as much time as anyone should spend thinking about Matchbox Twenty.) 2fs 04:53, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
The name can be correctly formatted as Matchbox Twenty, Matchbox twenty, or matchbox twenty. Refer to the Atlantic Records websites and related press releases: [14] [15] Adraeus 06:22, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
The official name is matchbox twenty. However, I don't have the official source for it, so I'm going to keep looking, then change it. -- NukeMTV 15:45, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
(deindent) Your interpretation of the "unless it is unique" bit has a central flaw: If it would apply to all cases of non-standard capitalization of album titles or band names, the rest of the paragraph it is from would be entirely without purpose. That is probably why WP:ALBUMS did not adopt this clause in the first place and there is still WP:MOS-TM, which clearly states that all-lowercase trademarks should be capitalized.
Also note that I do not appreciate the attitude you are displaying in this dispute, like stepping over good faith edits of two fellow editors without seeking a productive discussion first, your confrontational tone here and [removed, due to a misunderstanding]. - Cyrus XIII 07:25, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was Move Duja ► 11:55, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Matchbox twenty → Matchbox Twenty — We generally use title case for names of bands, regardless of whether the band themselves use stylized typography. (See, for example Kiss (band).) Relevant guidelines are WP:MOSTM, WP:MOSCL, and WP:MUSTARD; see also the above discussion. GTBacchus( talk) 08:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Not to stir up more trouble if consensus has already been reached, but why did the move from matchbox twenty to Matchbox Twenty happen? There's clear precedent for humoring musicians when they officially render their name in odd ways, such as blink-182, mewithoutYou, k.d. lang, and of Montreal. (And I do believe that Matt Yeager's interpretation of "unless it is unique" is correct -- if this case doesn't qualify, then what would?) And as per Matt Yeager's other points, again, policy and precedent support putting/keeping the page at matchbox twenty, even if guidelines throw some doubt on it. Purifiedwater 18:25, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Hey Guys,
My name is Orsolya and Im from Budapest, Hungary. I wrote the Hungarian wiki article on Rob Thomas. (You can check it out if you want to, click on the "magyar" link on the left side, it is the longest among all the wiki RT articles.) It's too sad that the English RT and MBT articles are REALLY very poor! You guys should really work on it!!!
Anyway, I just wanted to help you with the pix problem.
If you go to Flickr.com you will find many public pix of Rob and MBT that you could upload to the English Wikipedia and won't have any pix remove anymore!
here is the link: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=matchbox+twenty&page=3
Hope that helps!
xxx, Orsolya (from the Hungarian Wikipedia) ;)
I think that a new picture of the guys now as a quartet would be better since Adam Gaynor left the group in 2005. One of the new pictures from "Exile From Mainstream" would be great. BravesFan2006 06:49 CST USC —Preceding unsigned comment added by BravesFan2006 ( talk • contribs) 11:51, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Is there an infobox (is that what it's called?) for these guys? I can't seem to find one on their pages. Bufftractor53 05:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
This article hints that there was a different name to the band before they named themselves Matchbox 20. Anyone know if they used to be called something else and what it was? Thanks -- 76.243.110.106 ( talk) 19:54, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Tabitha's Secret -- you welcome 72.71.168.26 ( talk) 00:34, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Please don't add additional chartings to the UK singles chart listing without providing sources. The information from chart stats only shows charting on Push, 3AM, If you're gone and disease. If a source is provided to show that other songs charted then adding more chartings is fine, but otherwise they will be removed Hitthat ( talk) 06:12, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Billboard.com named MBT 33rd Hot 100 artist of the decade. See: [16] Pls add it to the article. Thanx, -- OrsolyaVirág ( talk) 22:06, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Exile on Mainstream was a complication album. It shouldn't be counted. So technically, the new album will be the 4th album. Not the 5th! The Man Who Needs No Introduction! ( talk) 20:26, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
At the Indianapolis concert on July 7, Rob Thomas introduced Matt Beck as "and an official member of Matchbox Twenty, Matt Beck". It seems to be most of the promotional material still shows the band as a four piece for their latest album, but this may be a recent change and should be worth keeping an eye out for a reliable source. 16:23, 13 July 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.25.99 ( talk)
In fact; this band is an alternative boy band. This is not rock ‘n’ roll.. 2600:1004:B1A4:4200:519C:87AB:8533:AB46 ( talk) 23:58, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
It's pretty funny someone did this. That, is how you know you are cool.
With the influx of the societal rush to integrate artificial intelligence into our lives, if you go to http://noAiHugs.com ,it will redirect you to the matchbox 20 website. 74.109.219.61 ( talk) 10:49, 4 May 2024 (UTC)