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Earlier today I added a 'music and lyrics' section mentioning genres that publications have directly described the album as (electronic rock, electropop, new wave), alongside other genres which were mentioned as influences (ambient rock, techno, etc.) – only the main genres should be cited in the infobox, but a user keeps adding them onto the infobox and changes the section's wording to fit his agenda despite it not matching the articles.
First of all, the majority of the sources cited for futuristic pop now don't mention "futuristic", the new source added for ambient rock doesn't even mentioned ambient rock, but only states that there are a few "ambient dream pop tracks", does that equate to "characterized as an ambient rock album"? and the new source added for "industrial-tinted techno" only states that "Sugarboy" contains "half techno beats, half theatrical banger," – again, doesn't equate to "characterized as industrial-tinted techno." Not to mention, they removed "electronic rock" completely from the article which came from Under the Radar, and was the most direct statement of a genre regarding the album from a reliable source.
I'm not continuing edit warring over this. – SpaceSong ( talk) 06:57, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
From Ss112 :"I don't think what sources call Lady Gaga's songs are relevant. They may be singles; maybe editors on Wikipedia came to a different consensus. That's what you should seek now to remove "Pills" since you evidently don't believe it's a single. You said "revert if I'm wrong". Well, I think you are wrong, because we have a source on the article calling it a single. If you disagree with that source, open a discussion on the article's talk page as you have already been reverted. See WP:BRD and WP:CONSENSUS. Thank you."
No, I don't believe "Pills" is an official single. The song was released as a promotional track, just like Lady Gaga's "Hair" and "Dope", in order to promote the album. They didn't go on to become official singles, despite sources saying they were singles upon release. Again, Annie Clarke herself never referred to it as a single, but instead a "new song" ( https://twitter.com/st_vincent/status/917783334666883073?lang=en)
Also, we have sources calling "Pills" a new song instead of a single. Do they not count? And I don't see how my examples (with sources calling Gaga's songs singles) aren't relevant. Sources referred to many promotional tracks as singles and yet I don't start referring to them as such. Obviously we don't agree on this matter, but why isn't my argument good enough? I don't believe I'm the wrong one here. Thank you.
Edit: You said that the Gaga songs may very well be singles... but they're not.
"This was after the previous promotional release, "The Edge of Glory", was made the third single from the album. Nevertheless, Gaga explained that "Hair" was not planned to be a single, but may be made one if it sold well like "The Edge of Glory". This is from the "Hair" article. If they were singles, that would have been made clear in 2011 and 2013. I'd rather take the artists' word rather than a random source. --
Drivingincalifornia (
talk) 06:56, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
TLDR. Just skimmed your response. You don't want to be wrong, you don't know what your talking about. I know what I'm talking about and I still believe I'm right. Whatever. You win I guess. --
Drivingincalifornia (
talk) 07:48, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
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Earlier today I added a 'music and lyrics' section mentioning genres that publications have directly described the album as (electronic rock, electropop, new wave), alongside other genres which were mentioned as influences (ambient rock, techno, etc.) – only the main genres should be cited in the infobox, but a user keeps adding them onto the infobox and changes the section's wording to fit his agenda despite it not matching the articles.
First of all, the majority of the sources cited for futuristic pop now don't mention "futuristic", the new source added for ambient rock doesn't even mentioned ambient rock, but only states that there are a few "ambient dream pop tracks", does that equate to "characterized as an ambient rock album"? and the new source added for "industrial-tinted techno" only states that "Sugarboy" contains "half techno beats, half theatrical banger," – again, doesn't equate to "characterized as industrial-tinted techno." Not to mention, they removed "electronic rock" completely from the article which came from Under the Radar, and was the most direct statement of a genre regarding the album from a reliable source.
I'm not continuing edit warring over this. – SpaceSong ( talk) 06:57, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
From Ss112 :"I don't think what sources call Lady Gaga's songs are relevant. They may be singles; maybe editors on Wikipedia came to a different consensus. That's what you should seek now to remove "Pills" since you evidently don't believe it's a single. You said "revert if I'm wrong". Well, I think you are wrong, because we have a source on the article calling it a single. If you disagree with that source, open a discussion on the article's talk page as you have already been reverted. See WP:BRD and WP:CONSENSUS. Thank you."
No, I don't believe "Pills" is an official single. The song was released as a promotional track, just like Lady Gaga's "Hair" and "Dope", in order to promote the album. They didn't go on to become official singles, despite sources saying they were singles upon release. Again, Annie Clarke herself never referred to it as a single, but instead a "new song" ( https://twitter.com/st_vincent/status/917783334666883073?lang=en)
Also, we have sources calling "Pills" a new song instead of a single. Do they not count? And I don't see how my examples (with sources calling Gaga's songs singles) aren't relevant. Sources referred to many promotional tracks as singles and yet I don't start referring to them as such. Obviously we don't agree on this matter, but why isn't my argument good enough? I don't believe I'm the wrong one here. Thank you.
Edit: You said that the Gaga songs may very well be singles... but they're not.
"This was after the previous promotional release, "The Edge of Glory", was made the third single from the album. Nevertheless, Gaga explained that "Hair" was not planned to be a single, but may be made one if it sold well like "The Edge of Glory". This is from the "Hair" article. If they were singles, that would have been made clear in 2011 and 2013. I'd rather take the artists' word rather than a random source. --
Drivingincalifornia (
talk) 06:56, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
TLDR. Just skimmed your response. You don't want to be wrong, you don't know what your talking about. I know what I'm talking about and I still believe I'm right. Whatever. You win I guess. --
Drivingincalifornia (
talk) 07:48, 10 April 2018 (UTC)