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Would anyone mind adding the kanji for his real name? I can't find it. -- 138.238.96.38 02:15, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
If the japanese wikipedia article is a good reference, then the name is おおた = Ōta. Even there they don't indicate the name in kanji. Nevertheless, if we refer to other famous "Ōta"s (see disambiguation page Ota), they are all written 太田 (large ricefield). Note that 大田 also exist but it seems less common. According to this and this 太田 is always pronounced Ōta while 大田 can be pronounced either Ōta or Ōda.
I suggest to write the name in hiragana (おおた) as there are no references provided to prove the kanji writting. -- user BigonL from french WP
He did character designs for Gundress (blech) but I can't figure out where to add that...any suggestions? (Maybe we souldn't...Gundress was really horrible) -- Trent Arms 07:33, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
This line is very confusing:
Masamune Shirow (former star of James Bond movies)is now one of the most famous anime and manga creators in the world. Indeed, for a time, he was more popular outside of Japan, namely in the UK, where he is known as "Roger Moore".
But I think this is just a typo and should read:
Masamune Shirow is now one of the most famous anime and manga creators in the world. Indeed, for a time, he was more popular outside of Japan, namely in the UK, where he is known as "Roger Moore"(former star of James Bond movies).
I think we need to mention that the most common theme in Masamune Shirow's works is the emergence of machine consciousness. This a major part of Tank Police, Appleseed and Ghost in the Shell and is hinted at in Black Magic. Generally it's his technophile main female lead who encounters the AI first and has some sort of a relationship with it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hcobb ( talk) 18:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
It seems that there is absolutely no mention of all the pornographic hentai Shirow has made. Is it because Americans are simply ignorant, or fans fear this will sully the author's more cerebral philisophical work? 63.100.44.98 00:33, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I added information that Shirow is also a hentai artist, but someone edited it out. I have added it once more. If someone thinks it shouldn't be mentioned (despite the fact that it is true), then they should explain why here, rather than editing the data out. 63.100.44.98 00:33, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I have cleaned up the paragraph once more, and relabeled "inspiration" as "erotic art" as it is what it deals with entirely. I will watch this paragraph for apologetic and biased edits. 63.100.44.98 00:33, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
It should be mentioned that a great many of Shirow's art books (Wild Wet West/Wild Wet Quest/Hell Cat/Hell Hound etc.) are far more than simply 'erotic', as they contain explicit hard core pronography. 203.118.187.169 06:49, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
I have those; I would not consider them hardcore per se, but then again, that may be because they are not hardcore enough by my standards to count as such, because a lot of the penetration is not explicitly shown, but is covered up by heads, hands, etc. -- BrokenSphere 04:14, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
It's quite easy to catalogue japanese material, if a comic is published in a hentai magazine then it's hentai, and the same for another kind of material (shojo, shonen and such), So if Masamune published material in a shonen magazine then it's shonen!. Some material of Masamune can be considered etchi, but still cannot apply to be hentai. -- Magallanes 21:07, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
I made a slight edit to two links in the section in question, combining them because they both resolve to the same page: Hentai. Is the term "hentai" now being used in English to mean exclusively "hentai manga"? That seems an unfortunate narrowing of the meaning of the original word. -- SandChigger 10:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I edited out "He is popular for his erotic art" because, quite frankly, that's not factual. He is mostly known for his unique take on Mech forms. In fact his erotic art is non existent. This is both in japan and america. If untrue then where are cited references? As for one off pieces I can agree that as an artist he may do erotica art but as an illustrator, what he is best known for, it's simply not there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.248.148.78 ( talk) 17:58, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
If the list of Shirow's works are to be bifurcated into major and minor listings, then there ought to be explanation of how the determination is made. I changed the heading "'Minor' Works" to simply "Minor Works" because to qualify the heading title with quotation marks and never address why is simply poor writing form. 63.100.44.98 15:07, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Shirow was commissioned by Elecom to design one of two MAPP mice (the second by Hajime Katoki, both available via Shinza, a japanese technology fetishist exporter). The mouse comes bundled with a booklet giving a visual walk through of the prototyping process - in Japanese - and a 3 inch windows driver cd. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlosbenjamin ( talk • contribs) 06:19, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
ps. im posting this, unless someone has issues... c — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlosbenjamin ( talk • contribs) 06:22, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I've found a photo of the man here: http://www.filmfestivalstv.com/filmfestivalstv_videoblog/film_news/index.html (do a keyword search for "Shirow").
I'm thinking of posting it with the text at the bottom showing his name cropped out. Thoughts? -- BrokenSphere 23:00, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
What's with the non-standard romanization of his name? Does anyone know why he likes to stick a pointless letter W in there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.21.221 ( talk • contribs) 03:08, June 12, 2007
I noticed that this page is in the category of people on the autistic spectrum. Why is that? I never heard that Shiro was autistic, can anyone verify that? If not then he should not be in that category. - Fearless Son 18:31, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't we mention somewhere that many of his works are heavily overplotted, and that his "serious works" tends to be plagued by a proliferation of notes on real and invented items, to such a degree that they can be confusing? "Yinerons and yangerons" in Orion ?
Or that Appleseed was originally conceived as a ten books project, then Shirow "killed it" in order to start Ghost in the shell, who may be seen as a more refined version (It's a case that, in the last pages of Appleseed fourth book, Deunan and briareos seems dressed like members of Squadron 9') of the first, pretty much because the plot was spinning out of control.
I love the man, but I must admit that sometime he has lingered on the border of bad storytelling...
On the other hand, he is a prodigious "creator of worlds" who gave materials to work on to much of the science fiction comics creators of this late twenty years (much of the "technology" of the italian comics Nathan Never came from Shirow's along with Kia Asamiya material - Antonio Serra, co-creator of the series, admitted it in many occasion).
Only, sometimes it appears that others, more interested in storytelling, have done a better work with the material he created, keeping the plot more linear and focusing on telling a comprehensible story.
For example, I find that Mamoru Oshii's first "Ghost in the Shell" movie told the essential of the first cycle of the manga, "cutting" much of the techno-blabbing our beloved endears in order to focus on the soul of characters- and he did well.
Shirow is a genious as an illustrator-even if, sometimes his anatomies were far from flawless (mostly when he's drawing men)- but surely he is not a storyteller as good as Osamu Tezuka, Carl Barks or Hugo Pratt. Woongah ( talk) 09:08, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Is it just me, or does this section seem like OR? A citation seems very necessary. Particularly as the part the claims that his heroines look so alike then says they look different in many substantial ways. The first part seems to have some good thoughts on the themes of his work (still needs a citation), but the second paragraph seems to practically contradict itself. alpha5099 ( talk) 05:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
In the video game works or "others" section, there should some mention of Shirow designing the level 50 Armor sets for the MMORPG RF Online. CCR credited him by naming the armor after the artist. http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=Shirow+RF+Online&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq= (Keywords excluding quotes: "RF Online Shirow") 76.71.170.86 ( talk) 02:17, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
What you think about it, is useful? Gabriel Yuji ( talk) 05:14, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Masamune's newest erotic artbook series kicked off on Jan. 25, 2014 with Greaseberries 1. It is a full color collection of covers and posters first published in Canopri magazine, along with previously unseen indecent works. — http://www.shirowledge.com/index_enu.html (at the bottom of the page) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ninjajustin ( talk • contribs) 02:47, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Placing fan sites here. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 22:50, 29 February 2016 (UTC) Fan sites
This article fails WP:GNG with no reliable, secondary sources. It makes more sense as a subsection of the artist's page. ZXCVBNM ( TALK) 02:13, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
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The contents of the Galgrease page were merged into Masamune Shirow. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page. (19 September 2009) |
Would anyone mind adding the kanji for his real name? I can't find it. -- 138.238.96.38 02:15, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
If the japanese wikipedia article is a good reference, then the name is おおた = Ōta. Even there they don't indicate the name in kanji. Nevertheless, if we refer to other famous "Ōta"s (see disambiguation page Ota), they are all written 太田 (large ricefield). Note that 大田 also exist but it seems less common. According to this and this 太田 is always pronounced Ōta while 大田 can be pronounced either Ōta or Ōda.
I suggest to write the name in hiragana (おおた) as there are no references provided to prove the kanji writting. -- user BigonL from french WP
He did character designs for Gundress (blech) but I can't figure out where to add that...any suggestions? (Maybe we souldn't...Gundress was really horrible) -- Trent Arms 07:33, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
This line is very confusing:
Masamune Shirow (former star of James Bond movies)is now one of the most famous anime and manga creators in the world. Indeed, for a time, he was more popular outside of Japan, namely in the UK, where he is known as "Roger Moore".
But I think this is just a typo and should read:
Masamune Shirow is now one of the most famous anime and manga creators in the world. Indeed, for a time, he was more popular outside of Japan, namely in the UK, where he is known as "Roger Moore"(former star of James Bond movies).
I think we need to mention that the most common theme in Masamune Shirow's works is the emergence of machine consciousness. This a major part of Tank Police, Appleseed and Ghost in the Shell and is hinted at in Black Magic. Generally it's his technophile main female lead who encounters the AI first and has some sort of a relationship with it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hcobb ( talk) 18:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
It seems that there is absolutely no mention of all the pornographic hentai Shirow has made. Is it because Americans are simply ignorant, or fans fear this will sully the author's more cerebral philisophical work? 63.100.44.98 00:33, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I added information that Shirow is also a hentai artist, but someone edited it out. I have added it once more. If someone thinks it shouldn't be mentioned (despite the fact that it is true), then they should explain why here, rather than editing the data out. 63.100.44.98 00:33, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I have cleaned up the paragraph once more, and relabeled "inspiration" as "erotic art" as it is what it deals with entirely. I will watch this paragraph for apologetic and biased edits. 63.100.44.98 00:33, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
It should be mentioned that a great many of Shirow's art books (Wild Wet West/Wild Wet Quest/Hell Cat/Hell Hound etc.) are far more than simply 'erotic', as they contain explicit hard core pronography. 203.118.187.169 06:49, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
I have those; I would not consider them hardcore per se, but then again, that may be because they are not hardcore enough by my standards to count as such, because a lot of the penetration is not explicitly shown, but is covered up by heads, hands, etc. -- BrokenSphere 04:14, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
It's quite easy to catalogue japanese material, if a comic is published in a hentai magazine then it's hentai, and the same for another kind of material (shojo, shonen and such), So if Masamune published material in a shonen magazine then it's shonen!. Some material of Masamune can be considered etchi, but still cannot apply to be hentai. -- Magallanes 21:07, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
I made a slight edit to two links in the section in question, combining them because they both resolve to the same page: Hentai. Is the term "hentai" now being used in English to mean exclusively "hentai manga"? That seems an unfortunate narrowing of the meaning of the original word. -- SandChigger 10:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I edited out "He is popular for his erotic art" because, quite frankly, that's not factual. He is mostly known for his unique take on Mech forms. In fact his erotic art is non existent. This is both in japan and america. If untrue then where are cited references? As for one off pieces I can agree that as an artist he may do erotica art but as an illustrator, what he is best known for, it's simply not there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.248.148.78 ( talk) 17:58, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
If the list of Shirow's works are to be bifurcated into major and minor listings, then there ought to be explanation of how the determination is made. I changed the heading "'Minor' Works" to simply "Minor Works" because to qualify the heading title with quotation marks and never address why is simply poor writing form. 63.100.44.98 15:07, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Shirow was commissioned by Elecom to design one of two MAPP mice (the second by Hajime Katoki, both available via Shinza, a japanese technology fetishist exporter). The mouse comes bundled with a booklet giving a visual walk through of the prototyping process - in Japanese - and a 3 inch windows driver cd. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlosbenjamin ( talk • contribs) 06:19, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
ps. im posting this, unless someone has issues... c — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlosbenjamin ( talk • contribs) 06:22, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I've found a photo of the man here: http://www.filmfestivalstv.com/filmfestivalstv_videoblog/film_news/index.html (do a keyword search for "Shirow").
I'm thinking of posting it with the text at the bottom showing his name cropped out. Thoughts? -- BrokenSphere 23:00, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
What's with the non-standard romanization of his name? Does anyone know why he likes to stick a pointless letter W in there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.21.221 ( talk • contribs) 03:08, June 12, 2007
I noticed that this page is in the category of people on the autistic spectrum. Why is that? I never heard that Shiro was autistic, can anyone verify that? If not then he should not be in that category. - Fearless Son 18:31, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't we mention somewhere that many of his works are heavily overplotted, and that his "serious works" tends to be plagued by a proliferation of notes on real and invented items, to such a degree that they can be confusing? "Yinerons and yangerons" in Orion ?
Or that Appleseed was originally conceived as a ten books project, then Shirow "killed it" in order to start Ghost in the shell, who may be seen as a more refined version (It's a case that, in the last pages of Appleseed fourth book, Deunan and briareos seems dressed like members of Squadron 9') of the first, pretty much because the plot was spinning out of control.
I love the man, but I must admit that sometime he has lingered on the border of bad storytelling...
On the other hand, he is a prodigious "creator of worlds" who gave materials to work on to much of the science fiction comics creators of this late twenty years (much of the "technology" of the italian comics Nathan Never came from Shirow's along with Kia Asamiya material - Antonio Serra, co-creator of the series, admitted it in many occasion).
Only, sometimes it appears that others, more interested in storytelling, have done a better work with the material he created, keeping the plot more linear and focusing on telling a comprehensible story.
For example, I find that Mamoru Oshii's first "Ghost in the Shell" movie told the essential of the first cycle of the manga, "cutting" much of the techno-blabbing our beloved endears in order to focus on the soul of characters- and he did well.
Shirow is a genious as an illustrator-even if, sometimes his anatomies were far from flawless (mostly when he's drawing men)- but surely he is not a storyteller as good as Osamu Tezuka, Carl Barks or Hugo Pratt. Woongah ( talk) 09:08, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Is it just me, or does this section seem like OR? A citation seems very necessary. Particularly as the part the claims that his heroines look so alike then says they look different in many substantial ways. The first part seems to have some good thoughts on the themes of his work (still needs a citation), but the second paragraph seems to practically contradict itself. alpha5099 ( talk) 05:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
In the video game works or "others" section, there should some mention of Shirow designing the level 50 Armor sets for the MMORPG RF Online. CCR credited him by naming the armor after the artist. http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=Shirow+RF+Online&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq= (Keywords excluding quotes: "RF Online Shirow") 76.71.170.86 ( talk) 02:17, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
What you think about it, is useful? Gabriel Yuji ( talk) 05:14, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Masamune's newest erotic artbook series kicked off on Jan. 25, 2014 with Greaseberries 1. It is a full color collection of covers and posters first published in Canopri magazine, along with previously unseen indecent works. — http://www.shirowledge.com/index_enu.html (at the bottom of the page) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ninjajustin ( talk • contribs) 02:47, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Placing fan sites here. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 22:50, 29 February 2016 (UTC) Fan sites
This article fails WP:GNG with no reliable, secondary sources. It makes more sense as a subsection of the artist's page. ZXCVBNM ( TALK) 02:13, 26 September 2017 (UTC)