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Why the Maryam Monsef case matters https://tnc.news/2016/11/03/candice-malcolm-why-the-maryam-monsef-case-matters/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by CanadianTRUTH ( talk • contribs) 14:54, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Note that the article has already been updated in all of the relevant places for the revelation that she was actually born in Iran rather than Afghanistan. However, citizenship is more complex than simply the place of physical birth alone — it also depends on the citizenship of the parents, for example, as well as the ethnic background. Despite the nuances of her physical birth, Monsef is Afghan by both ethnicity and citizenship and not an Iranian citizen or an ethnic Persian, so the introductory paragraph is not to be reworded to describe her as "Iranian-Canadian" instead of "Afghan-Canadian". (And that goes for "Afghan" categories too, for the record.)
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In the updated article its written that "Despite her Iranian birth, Monsef has never held Iranian citizenship and has always been considered an Afghan citizen." The thing is that Iran doesn't give citizenship to someone born in Iran unless one of the parents is also Iranian. The article somehow implies that she could have got Iranian citizenship because of being born in Iran but she didnt get it by choice as she considers herself Afghan. It should be updated to "Dispite her Iranian birth, Monsef didnt have Iranian citizenship because Iranian law does not permit children of Afghan refugees to get Iranian citizenship even if born in Iran. drsaeed90 ( talk) 18:17, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
I expect this is an ongoing story. Her bios have generally said her year of birth was 1985. Her Parliamentary website said so until Sept. 22, 2016, when it was changed to 1984. No one has said yet whether she ever had a birth certificate. One odd fact is that, on being sworn in to cabinet Nov. 2, 2015, her age was stated as 30. If they thought she was born Nov. 7, 1985, then they would have thought she was 29. And a news story published January 17, 2016, says "At the age of 31, Democratic Institutions Minister Maryam Monsef is the youngest member of Justin Trudeau’s cabinet." Again, not consistent with the date of 1985. I have no explanation. Yet. Wilfred Day ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:06, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
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It would be good to be mention in the "Taliban comments" section that she is a member of the Hazara ethnic group, which is a common target of the Taliban. Without this context, her comments make her sound like a Taliban apologist, which she almost certainly is not (knowing her background). JackieDon ( talk) 02:05, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
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Remove “throughout her career she has sparked a number of controversies.” There are no sources and it’s a personal opinion. 64.229.187.206 ( talk) 21:40, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
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Why the Maryam Monsef case matters https://tnc.news/2016/11/03/candice-malcolm-why-the-maryam-monsef-case-matters/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by CanadianTRUTH ( talk • contribs) 14:54, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Note that the article has already been updated in all of the relevant places for the revelation that she was actually born in Iran rather than Afghanistan. However, citizenship is more complex than simply the place of physical birth alone — it also depends on the citizenship of the parents, for example, as well as the ethnic background. Despite the nuances of her physical birth, Monsef is Afghan by both ethnicity and citizenship and not an Iranian citizen or an ethnic Persian, so the introductory paragraph is not to be reworded to describe her as "Iranian-Canadian" instead of "Afghan-Canadian". (And that goes for "Afghan" categories too, for the record.)
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In the updated article its written that "Despite her Iranian birth, Monsef has never held Iranian citizenship and has always been considered an Afghan citizen." The thing is that Iran doesn't give citizenship to someone born in Iran unless one of the parents is also Iranian. The article somehow implies that she could have got Iranian citizenship because of being born in Iran but she didnt get it by choice as she considers herself Afghan. It should be updated to "Dispite her Iranian birth, Monsef didnt have Iranian citizenship because Iranian law does not permit children of Afghan refugees to get Iranian citizenship even if born in Iran. drsaeed90 ( talk) 18:17, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
I expect this is an ongoing story. Her bios have generally said her year of birth was 1985. Her Parliamentary website said so until Sept. 22, 2016, when it was changed to 1984. No one has said yet whether she ever had a birth certificate. One odd fact is that, on being sworn in to cabinet Nov. 2, 2015, her age was stated as 30. If they thought she was born Nov. 7, 1985, then they would have thought she was 29. And a news story published January 17, 2016, says "At the age of 31, Democratic Institutions Minister Maryam Monsef is the youngest member of Justin Trudeau’s cabinet." Again, not consistent with the date of 1985. I have no explanation. Yet. Wilfred Day ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:06, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
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It would be good to be mention in the "Taliban comments" section that she is a member of the Hazara ethnic group, which is a common target of the Taliban. Without this context, her comments make her sound like a Taliban apologist, which she almost certainly is not (knowing her background). JackieDon ( talk) 02:05, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
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Remove “throughout her career she has sparked a number of controversies.” There are no sources and it’s a personal opinion. 64.229.187.206 ( talk) 21:40, 11 September 2021 (UTC)