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It seems that determining fact from fiction with topics relating to Blackbeard is difficult, and that includes Mary Ormond. A genealogy page [1] contradicts part of this article as it currently stands, specifically that Mary Ormond married Blackbeard before the Ormond family lived in Bath. Thus it is probable that Mary Ormond was not born an Ormond, but later married into the Ormonds after Blackbeard's death, contradicting the article's assertion that William Ormand was her father. -- Dan East 15:26, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
I do not object to corrections, but i do object when articles, i know about and have read about are changed and deleted. Any article which has a link to Mary Ormond, would be about her. Also any play about Mary Ormond is about the subject. There are several actors under the Blackbeard story. They have not been deleted. Nor would i want them deleted. I also have many contributions myself. I have been a member almost as long as you. I try to write articles which are correct and are fact checked. As for some of my articles, i clean them up at a later time. Sure you will find small mistakes on anything written. Tomorrow we will have the answer to whom the Ormond theater is named after. (unsigned entry by Randall O)
The article on Mary Ormond is a good one, if only for the purpose of intriguing a scholar enough to do an exhaustive research on the topic. Just a couple of points:
The genealogy link in Dan East's first paragraph doesn't seem to go anywhere. Is there another way to search it?
I read somewhere that Mary Ormond was blind - anybody ever seen that?
The best source for family records from that era are family Bibles or old church documents - but they are pretty rare from those days. Do we have anything like that for Ormond?
A lot of "sources" about pirates eventually trace back to a "Captain Johnson"s book. Some scholars believe this person was actually Daniel Defoe and that a lot of his info was either heresay or made up (I don't know or have an opinion either way). But trying to find hard evidence or reliable info ("proof") on these characters is surely difficult.
Engr105th
10:19, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
The Wiki article states she may have been "offered as a gift to" Blackbeard's crew...but I cannot find any reasonably researched reference to say so...I don't really object to that remark being there (after all, this is very minor historical character), but would like to know where the info comes from...????.... Engr105th 05:36, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
According to the truth of reality, Mary Ormond has never existed. Nathaniel Mist had a lot of errors in his book about Blackbeard's true identity. Kennythenuker ( talk) 20:43, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
It's obviously true. Note to Users: Please don't leave any mean, or hurtful comments here in this talk page. Kennythenuker ( talk) 20:45, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
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It seems that determining fact from fiction with topics relating to Blackbeard is difficult, and that includes Mary Ormond. A genealogy page [1] contradicts part of this article as it currently stands, specifically that Mary Ormond married Blackbeard before the Ormond family lived in Bath. Thus it is probable that Mary Ormond was not born an Ormond, but later married into the Ormonds after Blackbeard's death, contradicting the article's assertion that William Ormand was her father. -- Dan East 15:26, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
I do not object to corrections, but i do object when articles, i know about and have read about are changed and deleted. Any article which has a link to Mary Ormond, would be about her. Also any play about Mary Ormond is about the subject. There are several actors under the Blackbeard story. They have not been deleted. Nor would i want them deleted. I also have many contributions myself. I have been a member almost as long as you. I try to write articles which are correct and are fact checked. As for some of my articles, i clean them up at a later time. Sure you will find small mistakes on anything written. Tomorrow we will have the answer to whom the Ormond theater is named after. (unsigned entry by Randall O)
The article on Mary Ormond is a good one, if only for the purpose of intriguing a scholar enough to do an exhaustive research on the topic. Just a couple of points:
The genealogy link in Dan East's first paragraph doesn't seem to go anywhere. Is there another way to search it?
I read somewhere that Mary Ormond was blind - anybody ever seen that?
The best source for family records from that era are family Bibles or old church documents - but they are pretty rare from those days. Do we have anything like that for Ormond?
A lot of "sources" about pirates eventually trace back to a "Captain Johnson"s book. Some scholars believe this person was actually Daniel Defoe and that a lot of his info was either heresay or made up (I don't know or have an opinion either way). But trying to find hard evidence or reliable info ("proof") on these characters is surely difficult.
Engr105th
10:19, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
The Wiki article states she may have been "offered as a gift to" Blackbeard's crew...but I cannot find any reasonably researched reference to say so...I don't really object to that remark being there (after all, this is very minor historical character), but would like to know where the info comes from...????.... Engr105th 05:36, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
According to the truth of reality, Mary Ormond has never existed. Nathaniel Mist had a lot of errors in his book about Blackbeard's true identity. Kennythenuker ( talk) 20:43, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
It's obviously true. Note to Users: Please don't leave any mean, or hurtful comments here in this talk page. Kennythenuker ( talk) 20:45, 19 March 2022 (UTC)