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Except for the fact that it was formed by two former members of October Project, the band November Project was not connected to, derived from or an extension of October Project. It was as separate from OP as were Fahl's solo work or Belica's Decembergirl. The suggestions of "rejoining" and "replacing" are inappropriate in this context.
Sometime in 2001, after November Project disbanded, three former members of OP reunited under the name "October Project," which is the current status of OP (as of 2007).
MezzoForte 23:25, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
I added her birth name to the intro after someone put it in the infobox. Where can one find a source for that? (Or is Fahl a married name?) -- Idont Havaname ( Talk) 00:04, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
I believe Fahl is her artistic name, a short way for Fa(h)l-dermeyer, but I will search for more info. I made a little change, leaving her real name at the end. I am also inclined to remove her birthday since it is already in the infobox.-- Cefaro ( talk) 03:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
The surname Faldermeyer, its association with the the other members of OP (specifically with Adler & Flanders, with whom she evidently wrote a song entitled, "San Martino," but also with Sabatino and outside writer Byrne), and the year of her birth (1958) are available in documentation at the US Copyright Office, discoverable on the internet at: http://bulk.resource.org/copyright/hids/hid_09/hid_09362100-09362399.txt Date of birth (July 1, 1958) is also available at the municipal Registrar of Vital Statistics. Month and day are also confirmed anecdotally from those in attendance at OP concerts at which her birthday was announced.
I invite the user Mermaid5000 to explain his/her reasons for the repeated deletion of such information, and other verifiable text in the main article. Absent a satisfactory justification, Mermaid5000 would be compelled to reinstate the information, or to allow its proper reinstatement. MezzoForte ( talk) 17:17, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your attention. Let's proceed edit by edit:
1. "lyricist" -- Flanders was at the time, and still is, a lyricist. There are no previous references to her or her function in OP in this article. This clarifies.
2. "Flanders' " -- This is the proper possesive of any name ending in the letter s.
3. "collaborator" -- At the time, Adler had been Flanders' collaborator for at least ten years, and still is. The epithet "boyfriend" would require citation, and borders on bias by possessing a tone of condescension.
4. "fledgling" -- Also biased in tone, and inaccurate. Adler had already received a Masters in composition, wrote for the theater, and for many years had written/produced for television and industrials.
5. "guitarist" -- Sabatino was at the time, and still is, a guitarist. There are no previous references to him or his function in OP in this article. This clarifies.
6. "they" -- Although Flanders was not at the time a performer in OP, there has never been a version of OP that did not include her as a member. The version of OP that performed as a trio was reportedly very short-lived (a single house concert?)
7. "they" (replacing "the threesome") -- The band at the time had four members.
8. "vocalist" -- Belica was at the time, and still is, a vocalist. There are no previous references to her or her function in OP in this article. This clarifies.
9. "coffee house" -- A correction of the typo "coffeeshouse."
10. "In" -- The title of OP's second album is "Falling Farther In," not "Falling Farther." I inverted the sentence simply to vary it from the preceding sentence. I'm not married to it.
11. "occasionally" -- My memory is that Fahl (and therefore OP) was indeed co-opted by the Goth culture, but that it was not by any means the media's primary association. In any event, the quotation requires citation. In lieu of deleting it, I was simply ameliorating the statement. Also, the prepositional phrase that opens the sentence refers to Fahl (not the media), so the sentence needed to be grammatically corrected. I'm not married to this either.
12. "Goth" is capitalized when referring to the movement.
13. As you've noted, the band is called "October Project;" no "The."
14. "says" -- A correction of the typo "say."
15. "usually in collaboration" -- More accurate. As you cite later in the article, Fahl "shares writing credits on 12 of the 14 tracks on album." This is in fact the norm.
16. "potential copyvio image" -- The owner of the image kindly placed it limit-free on WikiMedia Commons.
MezzoForte ( talk) 14:39, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks very much, Keraunoscopia, you're note is tremendously appreciated. No need to apologize. I believe that Wikipedians of your stature and integrity are always acting in good faith. Onward. MezzoForte ( talk) 19:13, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Keraunoscopia, I am informed that the copyright owner (S. Lowy) has placed the image in WikiMedia Commons for free use, as is apparently his right. Its former use in an EPK does not disallow it. Since I have no reason to doubt him, and since you seem to have the resources to verify such action, I would greatly appreciate it if, once satisfied, you would remove the tag and restore the image to its original place both here and in the OP entry. Thanks. MezzoForte ( talk) 23:29, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
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I've changed the outbound link to 'Love & Gravity', as it landed on a different album of the same title by the band Blackhawk (here: /info/en/?search=Love_%26_Gravity ). I've changed the prospective page address to Love & Gravity. Better to redlink for the time being, or someone could just delete it if it was felt that no separate page is needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.225.11.85 ( talk) 21:54, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
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Except for the fact that it was formed by two former members of October Project, the band November Project was not connected to, derived from or an extension of October Project. It was as separate from OP as were Fahl's solo work or Belica's Decembergirl. The suggestions of "rejoining" and "replacing" are inappropriate in this context.
Sometime in 2001, after November Project disbanded, three former members of OP reunited under the name "October Project," which is the current status of OP (as of 2007).
MezzoForte 23:25, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
I added her birth name to the intro after someone put it in the infobox. Where can one find a source for that? (Or is Fahl a married name?) -- Idont Havaname ( Talk) 00:04, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
I believe Fahl is her artistic name, a short way for Fa(h)l-dermeyer, but I will search for more info. I made a little change, leaving her real name at the end. I am also inclined to remove her birthday since it is already in the infobox.-- Cefaro ( talk) 03:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
The surname Faldermeyer, its association with the the other members of OP (specifically with Adler & Flanders, with whom she evidently wrote a song entitled, "San Martino," but also with Sabatino and outside writer Byrne), and the year of her birth (1958) are available in documentation at the US Copyright Office, discoverable on the internet at: http://bulk.resource.org/copyright/hids/hid_09/hid_09362100-09362399.txt Date of birth (July 1, 1958) is also available at the municipal Registrar of Vital Statistics. Month and day are also confirmed anecdotally from those in attendance at OP concerts at which her birthday was announced.
I invite the user Mermaid5000 to explain his/her reasons for the repeated deletion of such information, and other verifiable text in the main article. Absent a satisfactory justification, Mermaid5000 would be compelled to reinstate the information, or to allow its proper reinstatement. MezzoForte ( talk) 17:17, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your attention. Let's proceed edit by edit:
1. "lyricist" -- Flanders was at the time, and still is, a lyricist. There are no previous references to her or her function in OP in this article. This clarifies.
2. "Flanders' " -- This is the proper possesive of any name ending in the letter s.
3. "collaborator" -- At the time, Adler had been Flanders' collaborator for at least ten years, and still is. The epithet "boyfriend" would require citation, and borders on bias by possessing a tone of condescension.
4. "fledgling" -- Also biased in tone, and inaccurate. Adler had already received a Masters in composition, wrote for the theater, and for many years had written/produced for television and industrials.
5. "guitarist" -- Sabatino was at the time, and still is, a guitarist. There are no previous references to him or his function in OP in this article. This clarifies.
6. "they" -- Although Flanders was not at the time a performer in OP, there has never been a version of OP that did not include her as a member. The version of OP that performed as a trio was reportedly very short-lived (a single house concert?)
7. "they" (replacing "the threesome") -- The band at the time had four members.
8. "vocalist" -- Belica was at the time, and still is, a vocalist. There are no previous references to her or her function in OP in this article. This clarifies.
9. "coffee house" -- A correction of the typo "coffeeshouse."
10. "In" -- The title of OP's second album is "Falling Farther In," not "Falling Farther." I inverted the sentence simply to vary it from the preceding sentence. I'm not married to it.
11. "occasionally" -- My memory is that Fahl (and therefore OP) was indeed co-opted by the Goth culture, but that it was not by any means the media's primary association. In any event, the quotation requires citation. In lieu of deleting it, I was simply ameliorating the statement. Also, the prepositional phrase that opens the sentence refers to Fahl (not the media), so the sentence needed to be grammatically corrected. I'm not married to this either.
12. "Goth" is capitalized when referring to the movement.
13. As you've noted, the band is called "October Project;" no "The."
14. "says" -- A correction of the typo "say."
15. "usually in collaboration" -- More accurate. As you cite later in the article, Fahl "shares writing credits on 12 of the 14 tracks on album." This is in fact the norm.
16. "potential copyvio image" -- The owner of the image kindly placed it limit-free on WikiMedia Commons.
MezzoForte ( talk) 14:39, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks very much, Keraunoscopia, you're note is tremendously appreciated. No need to apologize. I believe that Wikipedians of your stature and integrity are always acting in good faith. Onward. MezzoForte ( talk) 19:13, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Keraunoscopia, I am informed that the copyright owner (S. Lowy) has placed the image in WikiMedia Commons for free use, as is apparently his right. Its former use in an EPK does not disallow it. Since I have no reason to doubt him, and since you seem to have the resources to verify such action, I would greatly appreciate it if, once satisfied, you would remove the tag and restore the image to its original place both here and in the OP entry. Thanks. MezzoForte ( talk) 23:29, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
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