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The article states "She was the love of George's life and in his grief built an enormous mausoleum in her memory" - I think she is buried in the family vault beneath a chapel rebuilt by her husband attached to the parish church at Kedleston Hall Giano 19:37, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't like adding cite templates to good pages like this, but I think this opinion does need domething "and that she was the best dressed woman in the world--an opinion shared by other good judges." Perhaps we ought to be told whose opinion this is, or who these judges are. Giano ( talk) 07:52, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
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The article states the following: "As Vicereine of India, she held the highest official title in history of any American woman."
I'm not sure if this (" the highest official title in history of any American woman") is correct, since the United States Constitution doesn't allow or recognize any title of nobility. See here for more: Title of Nobility Clause and Titles of Nobility Amendment
Leiter was the wife of the Viceroy of India, who was originally the head of the British administration in India or the Governor-General of India. The office was created in 1773, with the title of Governor-General of the Presidency of Fort William. The complete authority over all of British India was granted in 1833, and the official became known as the Governor-General of India. The title 'Viceroy of India' was added to the office to be known as 'Viceroy and Governor-General of India' in 1858.
Leiter's husband accepted the position of Viceroy of India and was elevated to the Peerage of Ireland as Baron Curzon of Kedleston in the summer of 1898 at age thirty-nine.
Viceroy of India:
Suzerainty over 175 princely states, some of the largest and most important, was exercised (in the name of the British Crown) by the central government of British India under the Viceroy; the remaining approximately 500 states were dependents of the provincial governments of British India under a Governor, Lieutenant-Governor, or Chief Commissioner (as the case might have been)
Thus, in fact, Leiter was the wife of a British Governor-General who was made an Irish baron in 1898.
Generally, a title of nobility held by an American citizen is not recognized as an official title by the US government. See also the discussion here: Does the US recognize foreign titles of nobility during the naturalization process?
IMO, the above-mentioned sentence should either be referenced to a reliable source or removed from the article.
-- 91.61.104.84 ( talk) 12:26, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
CrumbleCrumble This change you made here} to the categories for this article is a bit startling to me. I do not generally mess with categories; your change raised a question. Derby is in England. You say Northern Ireland. Both are British, right? Why change it. I changed it back to British. Her husband was born in Derbyshire aka County Derby, in England. Baron Ravensdale is based in Derby. In addition, "He was created a Peer of Ireland as Baron Curzon of Kedleston, in the County of Derby,[22" If he has two barony titles, why choose just one? Their daughter inherited the Barony of Ravensdale title. How many of her husband's titles did Mary get, as his wife? As you see, I find these title confusing, and do not grasp why British was erased in favor of Irish, not even saying Northern Ireland. Please explain your changes in this complex topic. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 10:30, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
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The article states "She was the love of George's life and in his grief built an enormous mausoleum in her memory" - I think she is buried in the family vault beneath a chapel rebuilt by her husband attached to the parish church at Kedleston Hall Giano 19:37, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't like adding cite templates to good pages like this, but I think this opinion does need domething "and that she was the best dressed woman in the world--an opinion shared by other good judges." Perhaps we ought to be told whose opinion this is, or who these judges are. Giano ( talk) 07:52, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
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The article states the following: "As Vicereine of India, she held the highest official title in history of any American woman."
I'm not sure if this (" the highest official title in history of any American woman") is correct, since the United States Constitution doesn't allow or recognize any title of nobility. See here for more: Title of Nobility Clause and Titles of Nobility Amendment
Leiter was the wife of the Viceroy of India, who was originally the head of the British administration in India or the Governor-General of India. The office was created in 1773, with the title of Governor-General of the Presidency of Fort William. The complete authority over all of British India was granted in 1833, and the official became known as the Governor-General of India. The title 'Viceroy of India' was added to the office to be known as 'Viceroy and Governor-General of India' in 1858.
Leiter's husband accepted the position of Viceroy of India and was elevated to the Peerage of Ireland as Baron Curzon of Kedleston in the summer of 1898 at age thirty-nine.
Viceroy of India:
Suzerainty over 175 princely states, some of the largest and most important, was exercised (in the name of the British Crown) by the central government of British India under the Viceroy; the remaining approximately 500 states were dependents of the provincial governments of British India under a Governor, Lieutenant-Governor, or Chief Commissioner (as the case might have been)
Thus, in fact, Leiter was the wife of a British Governor-General who was made an Irish baron in 1898.
Generally, a title of nobility held by an American citizen is not recognized as an official title by the US government. See also the discussion here: Does the US recognize foreign titles of nobility during the naturalization process?
IMO, the above-mentioned sentence should either be referenced to a reliable source or removed from the article.
-- 91.61.104.84 ( talk) 12:26, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
CrumbleCrumble This change you made here} to the categories for this article is a bit startling to me. I do not generally mess with categories; your change raised a question. Derby is in England. You say Northern Ireland. Both are British, right? Why change it. I changed it back to British. Her husband was born in Derbyshire aka County Derby, in England. Baron Ravensdale is based in Derby. In addition, "He was created a Peer of Ireland as Baron Curzon of Kedleston, in the County of Derby,[22" If he has two barony titles, why choose just one? Their daughter inherited the Barony of Ravensdale title. How many of her husband's titles did Mary get, as his wife? As you see, I find these title confusing, and do not grasp why British was erased in favor of Irish, not even saying Northern Ireland. Please explain your changes in this complex topic. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 10:30, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
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The information in this article needs verification. This can be done by using scholarly sources instead of popular history books whose sources are not verified. The view on Mary Curzon and her era expressed in this wiki article has a romantic angle which must be moved towards the neutral and factual. There is a mix of trivial and substantial information, but perhaps a separation of these two elements into separate sections might be a good idea. Charlotte jorgensen2 ( talk) 16:51, 24 November 2008 (UTC) |
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