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Will editors please stick to what the sources say, instead of their own opinion. Thanks. One Night In Hackney 303 11:46, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
It's a POV term, perhaps the journalist in question expected Meehan to stand, but perhaps plenty more didn't. As such it'd need attributing, and it becomes a messy and unnecessary sentence to say something like "Meehan was overlooked by Sinn Féin, unexpectedly according to Belfast Telegraph journalist Noel McAdam, for the nomination in South Antrim, being replaced by Mitchel McLaughlin, who won a seat". It's really not that important to have the word in to extend the sentence in such an ugly way, so it's better off without it. One Night In Hackney 303 13:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
shock move says Irish News
SF retired Meehan says respected analyst
It was unexpected and to not have it there is dishonest.
Traditional unionist 13:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
"For the 2007 Assembly election Meehan was overlooked by Sinn Féin for the nomination in South Antrim, being replaced by Mitchel McLaughlin, who won a seat"
Seems like dodgy wording as it implies that he was interested in standing. My recollection is that he didn't want to stand again and in fact none of the sources say that he was 'overlooked.' Perhaps better to simply state the fact that he didn't stand again rather than speculating about why? Valenciano 21:38, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
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Due to the claim that "it's a private website by a photographer who has personally captioned the image of Meehan" ardoynepics.com is not a reliable source per WP:SELFPUBLISH, which says "Anyone can create a personal web page or publish their own book, and also claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason, self-published media, or user-generated sources, such as books, patents, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, personal or group blogs (as distinguished from newsblogs, above), content farms, Internet forum postings, and social media postings, are largely not acceptable as sources. Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established expert on the subject matter, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publications". As admitted, it is a private website and there is no evidence the anonymous (as I can find no information as to who runs the site) alleged (as I can find no evidence the same individual is responsible for taking all of the photographs) photographer is an established expert on the subject of Martin Meehan. FDW777 ( talk) 19:24, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
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Will editors please stick to what the sources say, instead of their own opinion. Thanks. One Night In Hackney 303 11:46, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
It's a POV term, perhaps the journalist in question expected Meehan to stand, but perhaps plenty more didn't. As such it'd need attributing, and it becomes a messy and unnecessary sentence to say something like "Meehan was overlooked by Sinn Féin, unexpectedly according to Belfast Telegraph journalist Noel McAdam, for the nomination in South Antrim, being replaced by Mitchel McLaughlin, who won a seat". It's really not that important to have the word in to extend the sentence in such an ugly way, so it's better off without it. One Night In Hackney 303 13:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
shock move says Irish News
SF retired Meehan says respected analyst
It was unexpected and to not have it there is dishonest.
Traditional unionist 13:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
"For the 2007 Assembly election Meehan was overlooked by Sinn Féin for the nomination in South Antrim, being replaced by Mitchel McLaughlin, who won a seat"
Seems like dodgy wording as it implies that he was interested in standing. My recollection is that he didn't want to stand again and in fact none of the sources say that he was 'overlooked.' Perhaps better to simply state the fact that he didn't stand again rather than speculating about why? Valenciano 21:38, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 03:08, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
Due to the claim that "it's a private website by a photographer who has personally captioned the image of Meehan" ardoynepics.com is not a reliable source per WP:SELFPUBLISH, which says "Anyone can create a personal web page or publish their own book, and also claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason, self-published media, or user-generated sources, such as books, patents, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, personal or group blogs (as distinguished from newsblogs, above), content farms, Internet forum postings, and social media postings, are largely not acceptable as sources. Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established expert on the subject matter, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publications". As admitted, it is a private website and there is no evidence the anonymous (as I can find no information as to who runs the site) alleged (as I can find no evidence the same individual is responsible for taking all of the photographs) photographer is an established expert on the subject of Martin Meehan. FDW777 ( talk) 19:24, 18 June 2019 (UTC)