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How can colonists be indigenous? I am guessing "indigenous" is trying to say "non-European" here, but then "Polynesian" would be the right term, correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.243.189.1 ( talk) 02:14, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
It's amazing that the German and Hebrew articles on the Marquesas are much more in depth than the English (and French and Spanish!) articles. What's even more astounding is that the Polish article includes a map! C'mon anglophones! Let's pump up the volume here! :-) TShilo12 10:18, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
It seems amazing to me that these islands could have supported such a large population and that this figure would have risen from zero in 300 CE. What a population explosion in just a few centuries! Is there general concensus around the certainty of this number? // Big Adamsky 20:57, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Beaucoup de chercheurs ont critiqué cette estimation de 100 000 habitants, faites d'ailleurs pour les îles du Sud seulement (ce qui ferait au moins 200 000 pour le total de l'archipel ?). Quand on visite les vallées isolées de Marquises, aujourd'hui inhabitées, mais pleines de vestiges, on comprend que c'etait pourtant certainement la réalité : une population énorme. Il ne faut pas oublier que c'est justement un trop-plein de population des Marquises qui a servi de source pour peupler l'île de Pâques, la Société, Hawaii etc. au début de notre ère. Quant à l'explosion de la population en si peu de temps, elle n'est surprenante que si on considère la date des plus anciennes découvertes archéologiques comme le début réel de la colonisation, ce qui est une confusion scientifique. Cette date de première colonisation ne pourra que reculer dans le passé au fur et à mesure des nouvelles découvertes et aussi peut être avec la mort des archéologues qui refusent depuis cinquante ans de voir que le passé polynésien est plus profond que l'on pensait autrefois. (Sorry to write in french but my english is not good enough, please if somebody can replace my talk by its english translation, thank you. Stephane.jourdan@informatique.gov.pf (now @gmail.com ...°
thank you very much Tomer for your translation, I have improved my english now (well I hope I have). Today I visit this page again and see those black and white photos for the first time. I have not read that book but the group photo is taken on a sandshore. There are very few such beaches in the Marquesas and also when they exist, they are far more large, I mean from the surf to the first trees, because of the tide. This beach looks like a no-tide beach, as you can see a lot along the lagoons of the Society islands.... As for the chiefess, the style of her dress has a definite tahitian look. Do we have proofs that thoses photograhs have really been taken in the Marquesas ? (please send copy of your answer to stephane.jourdan @ gmail, thanks)
I'm sorry if this offends anyone, or if some are embarrassed about their past, but it is history. I added references to the sexual culture in the Marquesas prior to Western influence with regard to child sexuality, which makes it unique. Information came from accounts of explorers and others, and is well documented in antique writings. 68.184.85.78 05:41, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
The map shown at present (i.e. the black and white one) is (IMHO) about as useful 'as an ashtray on a motorbike', there are no island names, no scale, no link to show location from a wider perspective...is there an option to improve it somehow? Stephenjh 16:49, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Can someone render "Conseil du Scoutisme polynésien" and "Be Prepared", the Scout Motto, into Tahitian? Thanks! Chris 14:48, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
I have looked at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_by_language . It would appear that there are no templates like {{
User ty}}
, {{
User ty-3}}
for Tahitian. :(
Chris 06:53, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I just wanted to comment that I think this article about Marquesas lacks a picture with its location in a world map, located right below the flag of the country. GetFresh ( talk) 11:56, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Know Ethno archologiost Thoir Hyderdalh lived on Marquesa island , briefly mentioned in article. But beleive theres more to the archology there? Stone monuments etc . .Perhaps more on this in article? m,ercia'Thanks(Dated Mporn,AM 090909 Wed,21stcent,by Dr. Edson Andre' Johnson D.D.ULC> ANDREMOI ( talk) 19:47, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
I see nothing here on the economy of the islands. Shouldn't there be a section that address that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.226.203.187 ( talk) 15:25, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
ATOL=VOLKANIK2[IE.SUBMRGDW/REFO/TOP>KONFUS/MISLEDIN — Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.32.125.77 ( talk) 08:00, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
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How can colonists be indigenous? I am guessing "indigenous" is trying to say "non-European" here, but then "Polynesian" would be the right term, correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.243.189.1 ( talk) 02:14, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
It's amazing that the German and Hebrew articles on the Marquesas are much more in depth than the English (and French and Spanish!) articles. What's even more astounding is that the Polish article includes a map! C'mon anglophones! Let's pump up the volume here! :-) TShilo12 10:18, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
It seems amazing to me that these islands could have supported such a large population and that this figure would have risen from zero in 300 CE. What a population explosion in just a few centuries! Is there general concensus around the certainty of this number? // Big Adamsky 20:57, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Beaucoup de chercheurs ont critiqué cette estimation de 100 000 habitants, faites d'ailleurs pour les îles du Sud seulement (ce qui ferait au moins 200 000 pour le total de l'archipel ?). Quand on visite les vallées isolées de Marquises, aujourd'hui inhabitées, mais pleines de vestiges, on comprend que c'etait pourtant certainement la réalité : une population énorme. Il ne faut pas oublier que c'est justement un trop-plein de population des Marquises qui a servi de source pour peupler l'île de Pâques, la Société, Hawaii etc. au début de notre ère. Quant à l'explosion de la population en si peu de temps, elle n'est surprenante que si on considère la date des plus anciennes découvertes archéologiques comme le début réel de la colonisation, ce qui est une confusion scientifique. Cette date de première colonisation ne pourra que reculer dans le passé au fur et à mesure des nouvelles découvertes et aussi peut être avec la mort des archéologues qui refusent depuis cinquante ans de voir que le passé polynésien est plus profond que l'on pensait autrefois. (Sorry to write in french but my english is not good enough, please if somebody can replace my talk by its english translation, thank you. Stephane.jourdan@informatique.gov.pf (now @gmail.com ...°
thank you very much Tomer for your translation, I have improved my english now (well I hope I have). Today I visit this page again and see those black and white photos for the first time. I have not read that book but the group photo is taken on a sandshore. There are very few such beaches in the Marquesas and also when they exist, they are far more large, I mean from the surf to the first trees, because of the tide. This beach looks like a no-tide beach, as you can see a lot along the lagoons of the Society islands.... As for the chiefess, the style of her dress has a definite tahitian look. Do we have proofs that thoses photograhs have really been taken in the Marquesas ? (please send copy of your answer to stephane.jourdan @ gmail, thanks)
I'm sorry if this offends anyone, or if some are embarrassed about their past, but it is history. I added references to the sexual culture in the Marquesas prior to Western influence with regard to child sexuality, which makes it unique. Information came from accounts of explorers and others, and is well documented in antique writings. 68.184.85.78 05:41, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
The map shown at present (i.e. the black and white one) is (IMHO) about as useful 'as an ashtray on a motorbike', there are no island names, no scale, no link to show location from a wider perspective...is there an option to improve it somehow? Stephenjh 16:49, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Can someone render "Conseil du Scoutisme polynésien" and "Be Prepared", the Scout Motto, into Tahitian? Thanks! Chris 14:48, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
I have looked at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_by_language . It would appear that there are no templates like {{
User ty}}
, {{
User ty-3}}
for Tahitian. :(
Chris 06:53, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I just wanted to comment that I think this article about Marquesas lacks a picture with its location in a world map, located right below the flag of the country. GetFresh ( talk) 11:56, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Know Ethno archologiost Thoir Hyderdalh lived on Marquesa island , briefly mentioned in article. But beleive theres more to the archology there? Stone monuments etc . .Perhaps more on this in article? m,ercia'Thanks(Dated Mporn,AM 090909 Wed,21stcent,by Dr. Edson Andre' Johnson D.D.ULC> ANDREMOI ( talk) 19:47, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
I see nothing here on the economy of the islands. Shouldn't there be a section that address that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.226.203.187 ( talk) 15:25, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
ATOL=VOLKANIK2[IE.SUBMRGDW/REFO/TOP>KONFUS/MISLEDIN — Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.32.125.77 ( talk) 08:00, 27 June 2013 (UTC)