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I removed the player and 2 game accomplishments, they are too fan-like informational tidbits. They might be able to be added back under a different context, but accomplishments that are only recognized by Mangino's fans are hard to be seen as unbiased information. National Championships, Bowl Games, All Americans, etc. would be appropriate. -- Radioshack 21:37, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
I removed this alias in the lead because no news article refers to Mangino as "the mangenius". A Google News search verifies this. It looks like only forums and blogs (very few of them, in fact) call him "the mangenius", according to this Google search. I don't think this is sufficient to add that he is "sometimes called the mangenius" to the article. BlueAg09 ( Talk) 16:58, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
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i cant tell if these IP edits are vandalism anymore or if they are updating the stats. before it was obvious, now not so much without researching. Matthew Brandon Yeager 07:40, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
It is inaccurate to state that Mangino's 2007 team finished 2nd in the Big XII North. Missouri and Kansas both finished 7-1, and the conference does not break ties when awarding division championships; thus, both teams tied for first place. ( ESkog)( Talk) 13:21, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
It is not up to Wikipedia editors to make declarations sua sponte as to whether this team won the division or not. The Big XII awarded the trophy to the University of Kansas for winning the North division in 2007. Regardless of whether they played in the championship game, the conference declared them to be co-champions. This is how it should be noted in the article. Whatever your personal opinions are on the matter, these opinions do not belong on Wikipedia. 96.241.24.246 ( talk) 00:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
The new section that goes into long detail about the previous season is way, way too long and it is filled with personal commentary of a particular Wikipedian. It needs to be trimmed down and made more professional sounding.-- InaMaka ( talk) 23:13, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Magino wasn't fired. He resigned I have the source.
http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/120309aaa.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.61.17.62 ( talk) 01:12, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Should the reference to the resignation be the link to the official announcement on KU's website? Seems that would be preferred over a media outlet's article Tehgrue ( talk) 01:35, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
I deleted this section as it was largely speculative and unsourced. One opinion from one columnist that included no quotes and only speculation about Mangino's weight and it's affect on his job performance simply isn't enough documentation to warrant this section. Find independent sourcing that Mangino's weight is impacting his performance, or affecting his relationship with the school's AD or alumni, and then this might be valid. Jakzhumans ( talk) 14:26, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
In particular, I strongly oppose the sentence "Opposing teams and their fans routinely mock Mangino's obesity" - which is sourced to a message board. This part is clearly not a reliable source and should be removed. I tend to think the Whitlock column isn't encyclopedic either, but I'm less firm about that. ( ESkog)( Talk) 16:50, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
At any rate, it should be documented that he is morbidly obese. It's that important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.4.82.233 ( talk) 02:50, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
I edited this to be more clear about the timeframes involved and the incidents in question. I think this is a more accurate representation of the investigations and makes it clear that they were from unrelated incidents separated by a couple of years. Jakzhumans ( talk) 14:33, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
I think it would be best if the page was protected by a non-biased Wikipedia admin, rather than ESkog. Skuggy does good work, but it terribly biased towards all things KU. Just let someone else protect the page during these 'interesting' times for Kansas University. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.76.96.23 ( talk) 15:32, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Also, can someone add a banner to the article saying that it is being protected? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.76.96.23 ( talk) 18:30, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Firstnof all there is a conflict between the article and info box as to place of birth. Someone who knows should correct the erroneous one. Secondly, the lede states that he "is" an American football coach, yet apparently he does not currently hold a coaching position. If he is not currently coaching, shouldn't this be in the past tense? Wschart ( talk) 14:21, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
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I removed the player and 2 game accomplishments, they are too fan-like informational tidbits. They might be able to be added back under a different context, but accomplishments that are only recognized by Mangino's fans are hard to be seen as unbiased information. National Championships, Bowl Games, All Americans, etc. would be appropriate. -- Radioshack 21:37, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
I removed this alias in the lead because no news article refers to Mangino as "the mangenius". A Google News search verifies this. It looks like only forums and blogs (very few of them, in fact) call him "the mangenius", according to this Google search. I don't think this is sufficient to add that he is "sometimes called the mangenius" to the article. BlueAg09 ( Talk) 16:58, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
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i cant tell if these IP edits are vandalism anymore or if they are updating the stats. before it was obvious, now not so much without researching. Matthew Brandon Yeager 07:40, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
It is inaccurate to state that Mangino's 2007 team finished 2nd in the Big XII North. Missouri and Kansas both finished 7-1, and the conference does not break ties when awarding division championships; thus, both teams tied for first place. ( ESkog)( Talk) 13:21, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
It is not up to Wikipedia editors to make declarations sua sponte as to whether this team won the division or not. The Big XII awarded the trophy to the University of Kansas for winning the North division in 2007. Regardless of whether they played in the championship game, the conference declared them to be co-champions. This is how it should be noted in the article. Whatever your personal opinions are on the matter, these opinions do not belong on Wikipedia. 96.241.24.246 ( talk) 00:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
The new section that goes into long detail about the previous season is way, way too long and it is filled with personal commentary of a particular Wikipedian. It needs to be trimmed down and made more professional sounding.-- InaMaka ( talk) 23:13, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Magino wasn't fired. He resigned I have the source.
http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/120309aaa.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.61.17.62 ( talk) 01:12, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Should the reference to the resignation be the link to the official announcement on KU's website? Seems that would be preferred over a media outlet's article Tehgrue ( talk) 01:35, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
I deleted this section as it was largely speculative and unsourced. One opinion from one columnist that included no quotes and only speculation about Mangino's weight and it's affect on his job performance simply isn't enough documentation to warrant this section. Find independent sourcing that Mangino's weight is impacting his performance, or affecting his relationship with the school's AD or alumni, and then this might be valid. Jakzhumans ( talk) 14:26, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
In particular, I strongly oppose the sentence "Opposing teams and their fans routinely mock Mangino's obesity" - which is sourced to a message board. This part is clearly not a reliable source and should be removed. I tend to think the Whitlock column isn't encyclopedic either, but I'm less firm about that. ( ESkog)( Talk) 16:50, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
At any rate, it should be documented that he is morbidly obese. It's that important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.4.82.233 ( talk) 02:50, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
I edited this to be more clear about the timeframes involved and the incidents in question. I think this is a more accurate representation of the investigations and makes it clear that they were from unrelated incidents separated by a couple of years. Jakzhumans ( talk) 14:33, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
I think it would be best if the page was protected by a non-biased Wikipedia admin, rather than ESkog. Skuggy does good work, but it terribly biased towards all things KU. Just let someone else protect the page during these 'interesting' times for Kansas University. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.76.96.23 ( talk) 15:32, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Also, can someone add a banner to the article saying that it is being protected? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.76.96.23 ( talk) 18:30, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Firstnof all there is a conflict between the article and info box as to place of birth. Someone who knows should correct the erroneous one. Secondly, the lede states that he "is" an American football coach, yet apparently he does not currently hold a coaching position. If he is not currently coaching, shouldn't this be in the past tense? Wschart ( talk) 14:21, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
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