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6-29 Major changes by RJensen, some of which are based on copyright material for which Jensen holds the copyright.
I believe there's a mistake about Mark Hanna, the political strategist, and the congressional medal of honor and it's repeated across the internet.
http://www.lighthousedepot.com/ALF/capeelizabeth.html
There are 2 Marcus Hannas. The one in the link above was a lighthouse keeper in Maine in the 1880's...something the other Hanna obviously couldn't have been doing who had been both a medal of honor winner and who had as lighthouse keeper saved several people.
Note that the Ohio, Mark Hanna's biography mentions brief service in the civil war and never specifies what he alleged did to win the congressional medal of honor. I guess someone needs to consult a real historian....but awarding the guy the medal 1895 30 years after the war would certainly have been politically controversial given who he was. I can't find any evidence that there was any dispute or controversy about a high level republican being awarded the Medal of Honor under the democratic president Grover Cleveland...
www.chancelucky.blogspot.com for my webpage
This is one of several claimants to the title of first modern campaign. It differs in degree, not in kind, from earlier campaigns; it differs equally from modern campaigns. For one thing, the tradition of "Aw shucks, I'm not running for office; my friends are too kind" was still retained.
Both wording here, as "first modern" and "forerunner", really need a source, and a real explanation. In fact, the only use of sources since 1922 seems to be in two sentences, one about who Hanna went to high school with, and one about Hanna as corporatist; in which our text is weasel-worded, and the quote in the footnote is not. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 02:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Should his birthplace of Lisbon, Ohio be mentioned?
"Expected to run" against Roosevelt is oversimplified at best. Hanna knew he was too old and ill to be president but allowed some of the support for him to go on just as a means of rallying power. ("Theodore Rex" is an excellent source on this and has some great cross reference in the back). The Rove admiration thing is completely unsourced, I'd be surprised if he were so...forthcoming of his admiration of an "Old Guard" republican like Hanna who supported the Protective Tariff among other policies that I'd think would give Rove pause to actually state support seriously... That might be something you say at the gridiron club as a joke. Reboot ( talk) 10:44, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
In the article it mentions McKinley's campaign out-spent Bryan's by 12-1. However, the election of 1896 article, it says 5-1. Huge difference there.... anyone know which is right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.216.64.214 ( talk) 23:45, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I was just skimming the article when I came across a confusing phrase in the "Electoral history" section: "All elections by the Ohio General Assembly." I know that you mean that the Ohio General Assembly elected senators, as the 17th Amendment didn't come into effect until 1913, but it took me a while to figure that out. Mentioning the 17th Amendment would help clarify things, I think.
Earlier in the article (under the "McKinley partisan" section) we find this sentence: "Hanna spent much of his time working to secure Sherman's re-election by the Ohio Legislature (senators were elected by state legislatures until the ratification of the 17th Amendment in 1913)". Adding something along those lines to the note at the top of the "Electoral history" section would be helpful, I think, as well as making it a complete sentence. AmericanLemming ( talk) 00:42, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
I would be interested to find out why he was expelled from college. Mikenlesley ( talk) 09:55, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
User:Wehwalt's work are always fascinating, but I have a little suggestion to this article:
I understand people mostly remember Mr. Hanna because his associate with president McKinley, but even so, some of the sections here are still too long, too many unnecessary detail. Start at "Early relationship", and go all the way to "Campaign of 1896", especially the latter, consider we already had wonderful articles like William McKinley presidential campaign, 1896 (which I have just done translating few weeks ago), I think most part about McKinley's strategy, feelings and details about this campaign but not directly invole Mr. Hanna should be cut off. For example, "McKinley had, in 1878, voted for the Bland–Allison Act, which required the government to purchase large quantities of silver bullion to be struck into money, and in 1890 had voted for the Sherman Silver Purchase Act. Despite the candidate's past friendliness towards silver currency..." We could least consider cut this line to something like "McKinley had vote for congressional act that friendliness towards silver currency"? My English is not well, hope I expressed my opinion correctly.-- Jarodalien ( talk) 04:43, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
-- Jarodalien ( talk) 09:31, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
The Lede needs to be summarized more. Parkwells ( talk) 22:32, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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6-29 Major changes by RJensen, some of which are based on copyright material for which Jensen holds the copyright.
I believe there's a mistake about Mark Hanna, the political strategist, and the congressional medal of honor and it's repeated across the internet.
http://www.lighthousedepot.com/ALF/capeelizabeth.html
There are 2 Marcus Hannas. The one in the link above was a lighthouse keeper in Maine in the 1880's...something the other Hanna obviously couldn't have been doing who had been both a medal of honor winner and who had as lighthouse keeper saved several people.
Note that the Ohio, Mark Hanna's biography mentions brief service in the civil war and never specifies what he alleged did to win the congressional medal of honor. I guess someone needs to consult a real historian....but awarding the guy the medal 1895 30 years after the war would certainly have been politically controversial given who he was. I can't find any evidence that there was any dispute or controversy about a high level republican being awarded the Medal of Honor under the democratic president Grover Cleveland...
www.chancelucky.blogspot.com for my webpage
This is one of several claimants to the title of first modern campaign. It differs in degree, not in kind, from earlier campaigns; it differs equally from modern campaigns. For one thing, the tradition of "Aw shucks, I'm not running for office; my friends are too kind" was still retained.
Both wording here, as "first modern" and "forerunner", really need a source, and a real explanation. In fact, the only use of sources since 1922 seems to be in two sentences, one about who Hanna went to high school with, and one about Hanna as corporatist; in which our text is weasel-worded, and the quote in the footnote is not. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 02:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Should his birthplace of Lisbon, Ohio be mentioned?
"Expected to run" against Roosevelt is oversimplified at best. Hanna knew he was too old and ill to be president but allowed some of the support for him to go on just as a means of rallying power. ("Theodore Rex" is an excellent source on this and has some great cross reference in the back). The Rove admiration thing is completely unsourced, I'd be surprised if he were so...forthcoming of his admiration of an "Old Guard" republican like Hanna who supported the Protective Tariff among other policies that I'd think would give Rove pause to actually state support seriously... That might be something you say at the gridiron club as a joke. Reboot ( talk) 10:44, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
In the article it mentions McKinley's campaign out-spent Bryan's by 12-1. However, the election of 1896 article, it says 5-1. Huge difference there.... anyone know which is right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.216.64.214 ( talk) 23:45, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I was just skimming the article when I came across a confusing phrase in the "Electoral history" section: "All elections by the Ohio General Assembly." I know that you mean that the Ohio General Assembly elected senators, as the 17th Amendment didn't come into effect until 1913, but it took me a while to figure that out. Mentioning the 17th Amendment would help clarify things, I think.
Earlier in the article (under the "McKinley partisan" section) we find this sentence: "Hanna spent much of his time working to secure Sherman's re-election by the Ohio Legislature (senators were elected by state legislatures until the ratification of the 17th Amendment in 1913)". Adding something along those lines to the note at the top of the "Electoral history" section would be helpful, I think, as well as making it a complete sentence. AmericanLemming ( talk) 00:42, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
I would be interested to find out why he was expelled from college. Mikenlesley ( talk) 09:55, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
User:Wehwalt's work are always fascinating, but I have a little suggestion to this article:
I understand people mostly remember Mr. Hanna because his associate with president McKinley, but even so, some of the sections here are still too long, too many unnecessary detail. Start at "Early relationship", and go all the way to "Campaign of 1896", especially the latter, consider we already had wonderful articles like William McKinley presidential campaign, 1896 (which I have just done translating few weeks ago), I think most part about McKinley's strategy, feelings and details about this campaign but not directly invole Mr. Hanna should be cut off. For example, "McKinley had, in 1878, voted for the Bland–Allison Act, which required the government to purchase large quantities of silver bullion to be struck into money, and in 1890 had voted for the Sherman Silver Purchase Act. Despite the candidate's past friendliness towards silver currency..." We could least consider cut this line to something like "McKinley had vote for congressional act that friendliness towards silver currency"? My English is not well, hope I expressed my opinion correctly.-- Jarodalien ( talk) 04:43, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
-- Jarodalien ( talk) 09:31, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
The Lede needs to be summarized more. Parkwells ( talk) 22:32, 13 February 2024 (UTC)