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Should this content be kept separate from Donetsk Regional Drama Theatre? Thoughts on merging? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 13:10, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
"According to our data there are still more than 1,300 people there who are in these basements, in that bomb shelter," Denisova said, referring to underground shelters below the theatre.Digging through the rubble to check that there were none of the 1300 or so people in the main part of the theatre is also going to take some time. Boud ( talk) 20:25, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
Did the Ukrainians shelled the building? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.248.249.243 ( talk) 06:58, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
Did the surrounding territory fall to Russians? If not, why don't we get new statistics about rescued and deceased people? Or negatiations about local ceasefire for rescue operation or anything? 5.173.97.107 ( talk) 12:02, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
See this: https://t.me/DmitriySteshin/4246 How is this explained? Seems like a legit post several days of the attack claiming that it will be staged by Azov. Might be worth a mention in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.57.73.2 ( talk) 23:13, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
12:30, 5 April 2022 (UTC)~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.142.43 ( talk)
The article states cirka 300 dead. It is somewhat contentious, as there were conflicting initial reports from the Kiev Independent newspaper with 0 causalties ( https://www.newsweek.com/miracle-survivors-mariupol-theater-ukraine-putin-1688926), and the number 300 comes from Ukrainian government sources. Should it be changed to 0-300 dead, or "unknown" ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Postdeborinite ( talk • contribs)
I think Alexandra Skochilenko's story ought to be mentioned here. It has a very direct connection, and it is notable enough. - EvgeniyErmolov ( talk) 15:44, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
On 30 June Amnesty International published a detailed report on the airstrike: [1]. Here an account of the report by NPR: [2]. Main points: 1) Most definitely a war crime, and probably a deliberate attack on a civilian target by the Russian army. They didn't strike it by mistake and they knew that there was no significant military activity going on there 2) The attack was almost certainly carried out by Russian fighter aircraft, which dropped two 500kg bombs 3) The number of casualties is significantly smaller than initially reported: "Amnesty International believes that at least a dozen people died in the attack, but also that it is likely that many additional fatalities remain unreported". I've just updated the info on War crimes in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine: [3] Gitz ( talk) ( contribs) 15:52, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
When mentioning a claim by Russia I think the encyclopedia should include a link to the original Russian source and not to a western source reporting what Russia claims. I am referring to "Russia first claimed that the reason the theatre was bombed was because it was being used as a base by the Ukrainian military, and then denied the allegations and instead accused the Azov Battalion of blowing up the building." No original Russian reference is given for either claim. Dianelos ( talk) 13:35, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
https://informnapalm.org/en/hacking-75387-960-aviation-regiment/ 119.74.173.229 ( talk) 03:18, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
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Should this content be kept separate from Donetsk Regional Drama Theatre? Thoughts on merging? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 13:10, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
"According to our data there are still more than 1,300 people there who are in these basements, in that bomb shelter," Denisova said, referring to underground shelters below the theatre.Digging through the rubble to check that there were none of the 1300 or so people in the main part of the theatre is also going to take some time. Boud ( talk) 20:25, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
Did the Ukrainians shelled the building? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.248.249.243 ( talk) 06:58, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
Did the surrounding territory fall to Russians? If not, why don't we get new statistics about rescued and deceased people? Or negatiations about local ceasefire for rescue operation or anything? 5.173.97.107 ( talk) 12:02, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
See this: https://t.me/DmitriySteshin/4246 How is this explained? Seems like a legit post several days of the attack claiming that it will be staged by Azov. Might be worth a mention in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.57.73.2 ( talk) 23:13, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
12:30, 5 April 2022 (UTC)~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.142.43 ( talk)
The article states cirka 300 dead. It is somewhat contentious, as there were conflicting initial reports from the Kiev Independent newspaper with 0 causalties ( https://www.newsweek.com/miracle-survivors-mariupol-theater-ukraine-putin-1688926), and the number 300 comes from Ukrainian government sources. Should it be changed to 0-300 dead, or "unknown" ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Postdeborinite ( talk • contribs)
I think Alexandra Skochilenko's story ought to be mentioned here. It has a very direct connection, and it is notable enough. - EvgeniyErmolov ( talk) 15:44, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
On 30 June Amnesty International published a detailed report on the airstrike: [1]. Here an account of the report by NPR: [2]. Main points: 1) Most definitely a war crime, and probably a deliberate attack on a civilian target by the Russian army. They didn't strike it by mistake and they knew that there was no significant military activity going on there 2) The attack was almost certainly carried out by Russian fighter aircraft, which dropped two 500kg bombs 3) The number of casualties is significantly smaller than initially reported: "Amnesty International believes that at least a dozen people died in the attack, but also that it is likely that many additional fatalities remain unreported". I've just updated the info on War crimes in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine: [3] Gitz ( talk) ( contribs) 15:52, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
When mentioning a claim by Russia I think the encyclopedia should include a link to the original Russian source and not to a western source reporting what Russia claims. I am referring to "Russia first claimed that the reason the theatre was bombed was because it was being used as a base by the Ukrainian military, and then denied the allegations and instead accused the Azov Battalion of blowing up the building." No original Russian reference is given for either claim. Dianelos ( talk) 13:35, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
https://informnapalm.org/en/hacking-75387-960-aviation-regiment/ 119.74.173.229 ( talk) 03:18, 30 March 2023 (UTC)