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Anybody think that there should be mention of the optical illusion believed to be built into the memorial?
I've heard that, as you walk around the memorial, the angle of the flag pole seems to increase, making it seem as if the flag is being raised in real time.
Anybody want to support or refute that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.105.172.214 ( talk • contribs)
An editor recently replaced the longstanding "Day" photograph with another, similar. I've restored the previous photograph, but perhaps we should talk about it.
Personally, I like the winter photograph. That curve in the flag is gorgeous (and very rare to see anything as good in a published photograph. -- Jumbo 04:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Is it worth saying that it is seen in world in conflict? The game has a picture of soviet troops changing the flag to a russian one.
I removed the sentence about how the flag is not the same as the one actually raised on Iwo Jima. While it is certainly true, it is not relevant. The memorial is to all Marines, who fought and died, not just the ones depicted in the statue. Also,, I think the current top photo is awesome. I've never actually been to Arlington, and until I saw this photo I had no idea how huge the memorial is. Beeblebrox ( talk) 20:01, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
My name is Erik Andreas Jacobsen and I am from Norway. I have a father who served with the united states marine corps. He was stationed in washington d.c in 1954 and was representing the us.marines (standing guard) under the war memorial november 10th 1954,arlington. He is very proud of having served with the marines and unfortunately a man is getting older... My question here is if somebody have some pictures from this historical event.. november 1oth 1954. My father has the original program which he treasures alot.
yours sincerely
erik andreas —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.109.66.184 ( talk) 20:04, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Erik andreas Jacobsen e-mail address eajacob@online.no —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.109.93.166 ( talk) 20:11, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Regardless of what de Weldon said, or what he meant by it, zooming in on this photograph < http://www.cte.unt.edu/home/Podcast_Exercise/Iwo_Jima_Memorial_3.jpg> shows that there are 13 hands on the sculpture. Altho not all visible in this photo, the hands of the front three men can be designated as hands 1 thru 6. Above hand 6 (the left hand of the leftmost Marine) it can be seen that there are 7 more hands. Friendly Person ( talk) 16:53, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
The statues mentioned in the article aren't the only ones; I know there's one somewhere in Florida, and I'm betting there are several more in the United States and possibly other places in the world. B7T ( talk) 01:19, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
I'm curious about the accuracy of "The Academy is also the final resting place of Corporal Block, who was killed in action on Iwo Jima." The Academy being referred to is the Marine Military Academy in Harlingen, TX. According to "Flags of Our Fathers," Harlon Block was buried in the Weslaco (TX)city cemetary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.49.31.71 ( talk) 00:54, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Dear people, where is the original photograph?! It is referenced in this article, in the opening lines, with no link.!And then...there's a bunch of photographs, but not the original photograph! Are there copyright issues, or what? It's kinda silly to open the wiki article with a sentence that immediately requires you to go a-googlin' :-/ 173.73.100.254 ( talk) 02:12, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
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Some old page history that used to be at the title "Marine Corps War Memorial" is now at Talk:Marine Corps War Memorial/Old history. Graham 87 09:28, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
Although the bronze sculpture was made by Felix de Welden, the actual monument as a whole was designed by Horace W. Peaslee. He also helped design the District of Columbia War Memorial and several of the zero milestones. One source example: U.S. Marine Corps War Memorial — ★ Parsa ☞ talk 08:06, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Well, this is probably not going to go well, but I feel I must mention it. Marine and marine corps are not proper nouns when used by themselves. "Marine Jones" is a proper noun. "Filipino Marine Corps" is a proper noun. There is no rule in English that a noun that is used in place of a proper noun retains the capital letter. I know, "Marine" is short for "United States Marine Corps," but that does not make the short form a proper noun. Further, I know the marines prefer to use a capital M. But the marines do not make the rules of English. Nor do the marines have some special insight into the proper-noun nature of the word. This is a fallacy. I direct you further to points 46 and 48 in this discussion. We have a rule on this, point 14 in this discussion of military terms. We ought to follow the rules of English. Paul, in Saudi ( talk) 13:34, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
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According to "Flags of our Fathers" by James Bradley, the sixth man raising the flag at Iwo Jima was his father John Bradley, a navy corpsman, not PFC Harold Schultz. I am certain he is correct, as one of the flag raisers was a Navy corpsman. We need to change this in the History section narrative, and also in the media File:Raising_the_Flag_outline.svg. TexasReader ( talk) 13:15, 10 January 2018 (UTC) [1]
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Anybody think that there should be mention of the optical illusion believed to be built into the memorial?
I've heard that, as you walk around the memorial, the angle of the flag pole seems to increase, making it seem as if the flag is being raised in real time.
Anybody want to support or refute that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.105.172.214 ( talk • contribs)
An editor recently replaced the longstanding "Day" photograph with another, similar. I've restored the previous photograph, but perhaps we should talk about it.
Personally, I like the winter photograph. That curve in the flag is gorgeous (and very rare to see anything as good in a published photograph. -- Jumbo 04:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Is it worth saying that it is seen in world in conflict? The game has a picture of soviet troops changing the flag to a russian one.
I removed the sentence about how the flag is not the same as the one actually raised on Iwo Jima. While it is certainly true, it is not relevant. The memorial is to all Marines, who fought and died, not just the ones depicted in the statue. Also,, I think the current top photo is awesome. I've never actually been to Arlington, and until I saw this photo I had no idea how huge the memorial is. Beeblebrox ( talk) 20:01, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
My name is Erik Andreas Jacobsen and I am from Norway. I have a father who served with the united states marine corps. He was stationed in washington d.c in 1954 and was representing the us.marines (standing guard) under the war memorial november 10th 1954,arlington. He is very proud of having served with the marines and unfortunately a man is getting older... My question here is if somebody have some pictures from this historical event.. november 1oth 1954. My father has the original program which he treasures alot.
yours sincerely
erik andreas —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.109.66.184 ( talk) 20:04, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Erik andreas Jacobsen e-mail address eajacob@online.no —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.109.93.166 ( talk) 20:11, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Regardless of what de Weldon said, or what he meant by it, zooming in on this photograph < http://www.cte.unt.edu/home/Podcast_Exercise/Iwo_Jima_Memorial_3.jpg> shows that there are 13 hands on the sculpture. Altho not all visible in this photo, the hands of the front three men can be designated as hands 1 thru 6. Above hand 6 (the left hand of the leftmost Marine) it can be seen that there are 7 more hands. Friendly Person ( talk) 16:53, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
The statues mentioned in the article aren't the only ones; I know there's one somewhere in Florida, and I'm betting there are several more in the United States and possibly other places in the world. B7T ( talk) 01:19, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
I'm curious about the accuracy of "The Academy is also the final resting place of Corporal Block, who was killed in action on Iwo Jima." The Academy being referred to is the Marine Military Academy in Harlingen, TX. According to "Flags of Our Fathers," Harlon Block was buried in the Weslaco (TX)city cemetary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.49.31.71 ( talk) 00:54, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Dear people, where is the original photograph?! It is referenced in this article, in the opening lines, with no link.!And then...there's a bunch of photographs, but not the original photograph! Are there copyright issues, or what? It's kinda silly to open the wiki article with a sentence that immediately requires you to go a-googlin' :-/ 173.73.100.254 ( talk) 02:12, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
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Some old page history that used to be at the title "Marine Corps War Memorial" is now at Talk:Marine Corps War Memorial/Old history. Graham 87 09:28, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
Although the bronze sculpture was made by Felix de Welden, the actual monument as a whole was designed by Horace W. Peaslee. He also helped design the District of Columbia War Memorial and several of the zero milestones. One source example: U.S. Marine Corps War Memorial — ★ Parsa ☞ talk 08:06, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Well, this is probably not going to go well, but I feel I must mention it. Marine and marine corps are not proper nouns when used by themselves. "Marine Jones" is a proper noun. "Filipino Marine Corps" is a proper noun. There is no rule in English that a noun that is used in place of a proper noun retains the capital letter. I know, "Marine" is short for "United States Marine Corps," but that does not make the short form a proper noun. Further, I know the marines prefer to use a capital M. But the marines do not make the rules of English. Nor do the marines have some special insight into the proper-noun nature of the word. This is a fallacy. I direct you further to points 46 and 48 in this discussion. We have a rule on this, point 14 in this discussion of military terms. We ought to follow the rules of English. Paul, in Saudi ( talk) 13:34, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
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