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Absolutely brilliant. Well done!! Signed on behalf of 192.216.236.65
Removing this sentence because it contradicts a another statement about Lombard St. bisecting the Marina:
You know, I wasn't to sure about this Marina Girl stuff, but here comes Mark Morford today in the Chron mentioning the very genre:
'Guess it must be true! :-)
I guess somebody better write the linked but non-existent article!
Atlant 17:12, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Okay, while the Marina Girl/Marina Guy stuff is really very funny (and not terribly far off the mark), don't you think it should be made a little clearer that this is a very specific stereotype of a very specific segment of the population? It's kind of jarring, coming before the dead-serious "History" section. I also feel like a citation on the statistics the article leads with is neccessary. -- Seja430 21:41, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Wikipedia! Tears were rolling down my eyes reading this article.
I love this article. The Marina Girl stuff would be funny if the ressentiment weren't so palpable, but the ressentiment is funnier. "oh, that Benz is probably leased... or Daddy bought it..." And equating the east coast, Boston, southern California, and the midwest is just the tastiest sort of dumb Bay Area provincial snobbery.
One semi-interested Wikipedian writes: "while miss the original article, since it is referenced so many times, I can only give sparse anecdotal evidence, instead. Of the three Marina girls I've dated, (a) the first was a relocated blond trust-fund baby from Manhattan, (b) the second hat too many hard cocktails at Matrix Fillmore while I had one white-wine spritzer only to behave inappropriately while I escourted her home, and (c) the third (also blond) had the SUV and the silicone, but not much else goin on. But the sampling may also be a reflection of the courtier - anecdotal evidence, all."
Should I be offended that all the other neighborhoods are merely factual and the only totally scathing one is the Marina??? Read through the others. So unfair! I love it in the Marina -- bad rap and all. :) Wildcat12 16:12, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
The large sections that have been removed regarding "Marina Girl" and other Marina District "types" is not verifiable and violates Wikipedia's point-of-view policy. While it may be appropriate for a blog or other publication, it is not appropriate for an encylopedia. OhNo itsJamie Talk 05:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
You know, I do agree with you... I was merely making my point clear that insulting the Marina like Wikipedia did is like posting the exact same stereotypes and "facts" to the other SF neighborhoods -- all of which are ridiculous. I apologize that my sarcasm didn't come across. Seeing as I do not believe the stereotypes I wrote (since they were just that), I think it is fair that I remove them as well. It was just to prove a point that what Wikipedia posted for the "Marina Girl" was just a bunch of lame stereotypes that fed to the problem and should NOT be posted on an online encyclopedia that is pitching itself as credible. Wildcat12 06:22, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. The sociology section should have been renamed the "Stereotype" section or relocated to a Marina District Stereotype page.
Bummer about removing Marina Girl. Sometimes the truth does hurt...I bartend, two girls ordered some froo froo drinks I had never heard of... So I asked "What, do you live on Chestnut?" They shyly and blushingly nodded their heads. Just because it was a funny picture doesn't mean that we don't love Marina Girls as much as others. They should be happy to receive so much attention. IT was a very funny piece.—The preceding
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So call it the "Stereotype" section instead of the "Sociology" section if you really think that people might not realize that the section is fondly poking fun of area denizens. That the stereotype exists is certainly true, and the generalization captures nicely the Marina's ambiance in a fun manner. Just because wikipedia takes itself seriously doesn't mean it has to be devoid of humor. Even Durrett's graduate level Probability Theory textbook has jokes about prostitutes and wife-swapping.
Marina girl entry created and sociology section moved into it, modeled on Yuppie page.
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Put back Marina girl if you want me to ever use this site again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.56.232.31 ( talk • contribs)
You guys should really get off your high horses. That page made wikihistory throughout San Francisco and was a buzz within two days of its posting. There should at least be an archive link. It was funny because it was TRUE! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.6.229.125 ( talk • contribs)
I removed the landfill category from the article because I do not think that the article belongs in it. I think that the category is meant for landfills purposely built for sanitation. The Marina District, on the other hand, was created by filling in the bay with mud, sand and debris. Also, just because a place is built on a landfill does not make it a landfill, just like a town built on a mountain is not a mountain. If people want some sort of landfill category, I suggest creating a category like "settlements built on landfill" ("settlements" allows cities, districts, suburbs and unincorporated towns to be included). There are many places like this, including parts of Boston, New York, New Orleans and Budapest (filled in river). -- Kjkolb 20:51, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
There is a lot of unsourced material about the changing demographics in the Marina section, the population of swingers, the crowds of tourists, etc. Please provide citations or remove your opinions. -- Crunch ( talk) 00:54, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
It actually is sourced from a reputable location. Look at the article carefully before making such claims and vandalizing the article. Removing tags. -- User:Eman007 28 April 2010
The sources are there and linked. Read the article carefully! Secondly, Crunch's felt that the sources weren't "encyclopedic" to which not only they are, but according to wikipedia guidelines, they don't necessarily have to be . Stop vandalizing this article to suit your personal opinions or I will have it locked! -- User:Eman007 30 April 2010
It is appropriate to randomly point out the population of whites in the third sentence? Like that's really the most important or informative thing you can say about the neighborhood? I looked through the other articles for SF neighborhoods, and you don't see them talking about the % of Mexicans in the Mission or the % of blacks in the Tenderloin. Because that would be racist. So why is it allowed in this article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Humaned ( talk • contribs) 02:18, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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Absolutely brilliant. Well done!! Signed on behalf of 192.216.236.65
Removing this sentence because it contradicts a another statement about Lombard St. bisecting the Marina:
You know, I wasn't to sure about this Marina Girl stuff, but here comes Mark Morford today in the Chron mentioning the very genre:
'Guess it must be true! :-)
I guess somebody better write the linked but non-existent article!
Atlant 17:12, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Okay, while the Marina Girl/Marina Guy stuff is really very funny (and not terribly far off the mark), don't you think it should be made a little clearer that this is a very specific stereotype of a very specific segment of the population? It's kind of jarring, coming before the dead-serious "History" section. I also feel like a citation on the statistics the article leads with is neccessary. -- Seja430 21:41, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Wikipedia! Tears were rolling down my eyes reading this article.
I love this article. The Marina Girl stuff would be funny if the ressentiment weren't so palpable, but the ressentiment is funnier. "oh, that Benz is probably leased... or Daddy bought it..." And equating the east coast, Boston, southern California, and the midwest is just the tastiest sort of dumb Bay Area provincial snobbery.
One semi-interested Wikipedian writes: "while miss the original article, since it is referenced so many times, I can only give sparse anecdotal evidence, instead. Of the three Marina girls I've dated, (a) the first was a relocated blond trust-fund baby from Manhattan, (b) the second hat too many hard cocktails at Matrix Fillmore while I had one white-wine spritzer only to behave inappropriately while I escourted her home, and (c) the third (also blond) had the SUV and the silicone, but not much else goin on. But the sampling may also be a reflection of the courtier - anecdotal evidence, all."
Should I be offended that all the other neighborhoods are merely factual and the only totally scathing one is the Marina??? Read through the others. So unfair! I love it in the Marina -- bad rap and all. :) Wildcat12 16:12, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
The large sections that have been removed regarding "Marina Girl" and other Marina District "types" is not verifiable and violates Wikipedia's point-of-view policy. While it may be appropriate for a blog or other publication, it is not appropriate for an encylopedia. OhNo itsJamie Talk 05:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
You know, I do agree with you... I was merely making my point clear that insulting the Marina like Wikipedia did is like posting the exact same stereotypes and "facts" to the other SF neighborhoods -- all of which are ridiculous. I apologize that my sarcasm didn't come across. Seeing as I do not believe the stereotypes I wrote (since they were just that), I think it is fair that I remove them as well. It was just to prove a point that what Wikipedia posted for the "Marina Girl" was just a bunch of lame stereotypes that fed to the problem and should NOT be posted on an online encyclopedia that is pitching itself as credible. Wildcat12 06:22, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. The sociology section should have been renamed the "Stereotype" section or relocated to a Marina District Stereotype page.
Bummer about removing Marina Girl. Sometimes the truth does hurt...I bartend, two girls ordered some froo froo drinks I had never heard of... So I asked "What, do you live on Chestnut?" They shyly and blushingly nodded their heads. Just because it was a funny picture doesn't mean that we don't love Marina Girls as much as others. They should be happy to receive so much attention. IT was a very funny piece.—The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
71.141.155.235 (
talk •
contribs) .
So call it the "Stereotype" section instead of the "Sociology" section if you really think that people might not realize that the section is fondly poking fun of area denizens. That the stereotype exists is certainly true, and the generalization captures nicely the Marina's ambiance in a fun manner. Just because wikipedia takes itself seriously doesn't mean it has to be devoid of humor. Even Durrett's graduate level Probability Theory textbook has jokes about prostitutes and wife-swapping.
Marina girl entry created and sociology section moved into it, modeled on Yuppie page.
—The preceding
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24.7.64.3 (
talk •
contribs) .
Put back Marina girl if you want me to ever use this site again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.56.232.31 ( talk • contribs)
You guys should really get off your high horses. That page made wikihistory throughout San Francisco and was a buzz within two days of its posting. There should at least be an archive link. It was funny because it was TRUE! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.6.229.125 ( talk • contribs)
I removed the landfill category from the article because I do not think that the article belongs in it. I think that the category is meant for landfills purposely built for sanitation. The Marina District, on the other hand, was created by filling in the bay with mud, sand and debris. Also, just because a place is built on a landfill does not make it a landfill, just like a town built on a mountain is not a mountain. If people want some sort of landfill category, I suggest creating a category like "settlements built on landfill" ("settlements" allows cities, districts, suburbs and unincorporated towns to be included). There are many places like this, including parts of Boston, New York, New Orleans and Budapest (filled in river). -- Kjkolb 20:51, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
There is a lot of unsourced material about the changing demographics in the Marina section, the population of swingers, the crowds of tourists, etc. Please provide citations or remove your opinions. -- Crunch ( talk) 00:54, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
It actually is sourced from a reputable location. Look at the article carefully before making such claims and vandalizing the article. Removing tags. -- User:Eman007 28 April 2010
The sources are there and linked. Read the article carefully! Secondly, Crunch's felt that the sources weren't "encyclopedic" to which not only they are, but according to wikipedia guidelines, they don't necessarily have to be . Stop vandalizing this article to suit your personal opinions or I will have it locked! -- User:Eman007 30 April 2010
It is appropriate to randomly point out the population of whites in the third sentence? Like that's really the most important or informative thing you can say about the neighborhood? I looked through the other articles for SF neighborhoods, and you don't see them talking about the % of Mexicans in the Mission or the % of blacks in the Tenderloin. Because that would be racist. So why is it allowed in this article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Humaned ( talk • contribs) 02:18, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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