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A fact from Marian and Holy Trinity columns appeared on Wikipedia's
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The image page information places this Marian column at Olomouc. Does
Olomouc have this Marian column as well as the Holy Trinity column? Are the Wikipedia images incorrect? They show a different monument at Olomouc. --
Wetman18:41, 19 April 2006 (UTC)reply
And what is more, they were being built at the same time by the same architect Wenzel Render. The city council asked him to build the Marian column at Lower Square, but he considered the project too modest and decided to build one more.
Jan.Kamenicek22:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)reply
I wrote the location of the Holy Trinity Column in Olomouc and the Marian column in Prague (because there are also two more columns) more precisely and added also some information to the pictures of the Marian column in Olomouc above.
Jan.Kamenicek18:40, 27 April 2006 (UTC)reply
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ad 2) Many of these columns (especially Marian columns) are plague columns, i. e. they were erected to thank for ending a plague, but not all of them (such as the one at Piazza Santa Maria Maggiore in Rome).
ad 3) typical dedication of these columns was to Mary or Trinity, though there are exceptions, which is mentioned in the article.
ad 4) I cannot speak for Google scholar, but there are many columns of this type which are not plague columns. Speaking about Olomouc, there are even two non-plague columns (the other one can be seen at
Commons:Category:Holy Trinity column in Černovír (Olomouc)). Marian column at
Marienplatz in Munich celebrates end of Swedish occupation. And so on...
If not all are Marian or Trinity then that's just as much an exception as not all being plague. On what basis are
Spires of Naples relegated to "See also" rather than being discussed in the article? Some more suggested renames: Catholic monumental column or Catholic votive column.
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The Christian practice of erecting a column topped with a statue of the Virgin Mary dates back at least to the 10th century (in Clermont-Ferrand in France) : ???
The Christian practice of erecting a column topped with a statue of the Virgin Mary dates back at least to the 10th century (in Clermont-Ferrand in France): This sentence should be removed from the article . A statue of the Virgin Mary did exist in Clermont-Ferrand in the 10th century, but it was not on top of a column. It decorated the altar of the romanesque cathedral but it was destroyed at the time of the French Revolution.[1][2][3]. In my opinion, the first Marian columns were erected in the 17th century after the Counter Reformation. Before that period there were statues of the Virgin of course, but they were not gigantic like those ones on columns.--
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A fact from Marian and Holy Trinity columns appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 5 January 2006. The text of the entry was as follows:
The image page information places this Marian column at Olomouc. Does
Olomouc have this Marian column as well as the Holy Trinity column? Are the Wikipedia images incorrect? They show a different monument at Olomouc. --
Wetman18:41, 19 April 2006 (UTC)reply
And what is more, they were being built at the same time by the same architect Wenzel Render. The city council asked him to build the Marian column at Lower Square, but he considered the project too modest and decided to build one more.
Jan.Kamenicek22:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)reply
I wrote the location of the Holy Trinity Column in Olomouc and the Marian column in Prague (because there are also two more columns) more precisely and added also some information to the pictures of the Marian column in Olomouc above.
Jan.Kamenicek18:40, 27 April 2006 (UTC)reply
Requested move 20 November 2015
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ad 2) Many of these columns (especially Marian columns) are plague columns, i. e. they were erected to thank for ending a plague, but not all of them (such as the one at Piazza Santa Maria Maggiore in Rome).
ad 3) typical dedication of these columns was to Mary or Trinity, though there are exceptions, which is mentioned in the article.
ad 4) I cannot speak for Google scholar, but there are many columns of this type which are not plague columns. Speaking about Olomouc, there are even two non-plague columns (the other one can be seen at
Commons:Category:Holy Trinity column in Černovír (Olomouc)). Marian column at
Marienplatz in Munich celebrates end of Swedish occupation. And so on...
If not all are Marian or Trinity then that's just as much an exception as not all being plague. On what basis are
Spires of Naples relegated to "See also" rather than being discussed in the article? Some more suggested renames: Catholic monumental column or Catholic votive column.
jnestorius(
talk)05:06, 21 November 2015 (UTC)reply
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The Christian practice of erecting a column topped with a statue of the Virgin Mary dates back at least to the 10th century (in Clermont-Ferrand in France) : ???
The Christian practice of erecting a column topped with a statue of the Virgin Mary dates back at least to the 10th century (in Clermont-Ferrand in France): This sentence should be removed from the article . A statue of the Virgin Mary did exist in Clermont-Ferrand in the 10th century, but it was not on top of a column. It decorated the altar of the romanesque cathedral but it was destroyed at the time of the French Revolution.[1][2][3]. In my opinion, the first Marian columns were erected in the 17th century after the Counter Reformation. Before that period there were statues of the Virgin of course, but they were not gigantic like those ones on columns.--
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14:08, 14 March 2019 (UTC)reply