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The airport is not listed as João Paulo II anywhere.
The airport's own website calls itself simply Ponta Delgada, and has no mention of João Paulo.
Template:Regions of Portugal: statistical (NUTS3) subregions and intercommunal entities are confused; they are not the same in all regions, and should be sublisted separately in each region: intermunicipal entities are sometimes larger and split by subregions (e.g. the Metropolitan Area of Lisbon has two subregions), some intercommunal entities are containing only parts of subregions. All subregions should be listed explicitly and not assume they are only intermunicipal entities (which accessorily are not statistic subdivisions but real administrative entities, so they should be listed below, probably using a smaller font: we can safely eliminate the subgrouping by type of intermunicipal entity from this box).
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The result of the move request was: Move.
Jafeluv (
talk) 01:56, 22 November 2010 (UTC)reply
Oppose move on principle. You refer to "sources", but I don't see any references in the article in spite of the almost one year old tag at the top of the page. Sure, I could come to a conclusion by googling, but the impetus is on you to prove it should be moved, not others to prove it should stay where it is. Show me a reference section so I can browse to sources which show she was called Maria Pia of Savoy and then maybe...
VictorianMutant (
talk) 01:12, 12 October 2010 (UTC)reply
Not common but: "The Head of the Royal House of Italy uses the title Duke of Savoy; the title of the heir may be Prince of Naples, Prince of Venice or Prince of Piedmont; by the family statute of 1 Jan 1890 the children of the King are and Heir Apparent are Royal Prince or Princess of Italy, Prince or Princess of Savoy and Royal Highness; the nephews of the King and their descendants Prince or Princess of Savoy and Serene Highness. By an amendment to this statute dated 12 May 1946, the qualification of Royal Highness was extended to all members of the House."
Seven Letters 21:17, 12 October 2010 (UTC)reply
But 1890 was after Maria Pia left the Italy (1862) and was styled as the Queen of Portugal . . one could argue that this was irrelevant to Maria Pia
Prince LouisPhilippeCharles (
talk) 22:17, 12 October 2010 (UTC)reply
Support - arguments above look pretty convincing, but what to do about the other Maria Pia of Savoy currently listed on the dab page?--
Kotniski (
talk) 13:07, 19 October 2010 (UTC)reply
Support Initially I was cautious, there are several titles this person could be known by, and she was a princess of Italy for about a year. However every other Wikipedia I looked at, including the Italian and Portuguese, has her at Maria Pia of Savoy, suggesting that this is how she is generally known. There is only one other person who might be known by this name, she was never a queen of anywhere and so is less important, she can be dealt with by a hatnote. Where we have only 2 people of a name the margin of notability does not need to be very much for us to decide that one is the primary meaning.
PatGallacher (
talk) 11:14, 11 November 2010 (UTC)reply
Any other views?
LPC (
talk) 17:09, 20 November 2010 (UTC)reply
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Find correct name
The airport is not listed as João Paulo II anywhere.
The airport's own website calls itself simply Ponta Delgada, and has no mention of João Paulo.
Template:Regions of Portugal: statistical (NUTS3) subregions and intercommunal entities are confused; they are not the same in all regions, and should be sublisted separately in each region: intermunicipal entities are sometimes larger and split by subregions (e.g. the Metropolitan Area of Lisbon has two subregions), some intercommunal entities are containing only parts of subregions. All subregions should be listed explicitly and not assume they are only intermunicipal entities (which accessorily are not statistic subdivisions but real administrative entities, so they should be listed below, probably using a smaller font: we can safely eliminate the subgrouping by type of intermunicipal entity from this box).
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women's History, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Women's history and related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Move.
Jafeluv (
talk) 01:56, 22 November 2010 (UTC)reply
Oppose move on principle. You refer to "sources", but I don't see any references in the article in spite of the almost one year old tag at the top of the page. Sure, I could come to a conclusion by googling, but the impetus is on you to prove it should be moved, not others to prove it should stay where it is. Show me a reference section so I can browse to sources which show she was called Maria Pia of Savoy and then maybe...
VictorianMutant (
talk) 01:12, 12 October 2010 (UTC)reply
Not common but: "The Head of the Royal House of Italy uses the title Duke of Savoy; the title of the heir may be Prince of Naples, Prince of Venice or Prince of Piedmont; by the family statute of 1 Jan 1890 the children of the King are and Heir Apparent are Royal Prince or Princess of Italy, Prince or Princess of Savoy and Royal Highness; the nephews of the King and their descendants Prince or Princess of Savoy and Serene Highness. By an amendment to this statute dated 12 May 1946, the qualification of Royal Highness was extended to all members of the House."
Seven Letters 21:17, 12 October 2010 (UTC)reply
But 1890 was after Maria Pia left the Italy (1862) and was styled as the Queen of Portugal . . one could argue that this was irrelevant to Maria Pia
Prince LouisPhilippeCharles (
talk) 22:17, 12 October 2010 (UTC)reply
Support - arguments above look pretty convincing, but what to do about the other Maria Pia of Savoy currently listed on the dab page?--
Kotniski (
talk) 13:07, 19 October 2010 (UTC)reply
Support Initially I was cautious, there are several titles this person could be known by, and she was a princess of Italy for about a year. However every other Wikipedia I looked at, including the Italian and Portuguese, has her at Maria Pia of Savoy, suggesting that this is how she is generally known. There is only one other person who might be known by this name, she was never a queen of anywhere and so is less important, she can be dealt with by a hatnote. Where we have only 2 people of a name the margin of notability does not need to be very much for us to decide that one is the primary meaning.
PatGallacher (
talk) 11:14, 11 November 2010 (UTC)reply
Any other views?
LPC (
talk) 17:09, 20 November 2010 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.