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Why it is written that MariaDB is "not 100% compatible" with JSON (on "Third-party software")? If I am not mistaken, MariaDB is compatible but added quite a lot in addition. Therefore, it seems the pharsing might be misleading. 2A10:800A:8683:0:2D77:971D:D7B6:DCD0 ( talk) 14:41, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
"MariaDB is a community-developed branch of the MySQL database, the impetus being the community maintenance of its free status under GPL, as opposed to any uncertainty of MySQL license status under its current ownership by Oracle."
This doesn't sound right to me. MariaDB began after Sun acquired MySQL but *before* Oracle acquired Sun, I believe.
Monty originally stated on his blog that it was a branch, not a fork. But this was before Oracle. Later, he notes that it became a "full fork". So I believe fork would be more accurate than branch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (Not that) Linus ( talk • contribs) 20:30, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
Third Party Softwares
I think that the section "Third Party Softwares" should not be there. Only 2 softwares are listed, but possibly every software written for MySQL could be there - but then they should be listed on other forks' pages, too. We could simply write that MariaDB is compatible with MySQL, except that it doesn't support NDB and IBMBD2 storage engines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.57.201.30 ( talk) 14:35, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
Second paragraph, first sentence: "The intent also being to maintain high fidelity with MySQL, ensuring a 'drop-in' replacement capability with library binary equivalency and exacting matching with MySQL APIs and commands." This sentence does not represent a complete thought. It may have initially been a continuation of the introduction sentence, later split off into its own paragraph, but it can't stand on its own as a sentence. Here are a few options that would work better, without altering the words used:
I'll let someone else decide how best to word this for best readability. -fysx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.248.142.244 ( talk) 04:02, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
It says in this article that MySQL AB was sold for a billion dollars, but on the Full Monty page it says he made 16 million euros capital gains... where did the rest of that money go? 108.14.123.172 ( talk) 19:53, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Does anybody have any guidance on this? Presumably it's "ma-ree-ah" but I've heard some people pronounce it "mu-riy-ah". Mrstonky ( talk) 11:11, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
But where is the accent/emphasis? I have heard both "ma-REE-ah" and "MA-ree-ah" Sdp61 ( talk) 18:43, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure it would be "ma-REE-ah", since everyone I know named Maria pronounces it that way (in the United States). XC Fan ( talk) 21:39, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Sort of "I just met a DB called Maria..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.6.176.27 ( talk) 06:14, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
XAMPP is now using MariaDB: https://www.apachefriends.org/blog/new_xampp_20151019.html -- Benimation ( talk) 15:40, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
It would be helpful for the article to document Linux distros (and other software distributions) that default to including MariaDB. For example, the article currently includes this sentence, which was helpful: "On this basis, Fedora developers replaced MySQL with MariaDB in Fedora 19, out of concerns that Oracle is making MySQL a more closed software project." as was it's reference: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ReplaceMySQLwithMariaDB I am adding information about RHEL 7 adoption. I'd appreciate it if users of other distros/operating systems could include information about those alternatives. I think this information is not only relevant and directly informative, but also has collateral value, such as settling the issue of notability (raised in 2013). 67.162.21.248 ( talk) 20:31, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
MariaDB is an ambiguous term. Most of this article refers to MariaDB Server which is governed by the MariaDB Foundation and is one of the many products that MariaDB Corporation employees work on. There is also MariaDB MaxScale, MariaDB ColumnStore and so on. Maybe this page needs to be split, but really, there is no "MariaDB" per se. We need to get the terms right since this is encyclopedic content.
I am going to challenge that introduction assertion based on the following references:
I would propose something like shifting the description to something like "non-profit-driven" or "non-oracle-driven" or "foundation-driven" or something along the lines that it is an alternative to and Oracle-driven project, but I think community-driven is a falsehood. A complete and more accurate description could be done at large with all nuances at a later time on a governance paragraph. I think community-developed was an initial intention, but I think in the latest years there has been a shift towards corporate sponsors taking charge for the development process, and as such, the article should be updated to reflect the current reality. Being non-community driven is not a problem, there are many successful open-source projects that are corporate-driven.
As some of that could be controversial, I am asking for discussion first, will change at some point if my assertion is not challenged.
Disclaimers: I am personally one of the largest MariaDB individual donors, and so is my current employer. -- jynus ( talk) 14:19, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
I wanted here to to share my thoughts on how this change affects the MariaDB community.
-- https://mariadb.org/why-skysql-becoming-mariadb-corporation-will-be-good-for-the-mariadb-foundation/The short version: As the MariaDB Corporation is the main driving force behind the development of the MariaDB server and the biggest support provider for it, it makes sense to give it a name that clearly communicates this fact. The name change doesn’t of course stop the company to continue it’s excellent support for MySQL.
No. "Due to concerns over its acquisition by Oracle Corporation" is nonsense. The article doesn't even say that. It states that Widenius forked MySQL immediately after the Sun acquisition. That's about a year and a half before Oracle acquired Sun. Widenius was indeed concerned to preserve the project's openness, but he was thinking of Sun, which also had an anti-OS reputation. That's the official story, anyway. In fact, Widenius and other MySQL employees were antagonized by Sun's "not invented here" culture, and bailed after about a year — the usual outcome for Sun acquisitions. I speak with some authority, since I was working at Sun at the time. Isaac Rabinovitch ( talk) 20:08, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
Saw a claim on a article that MariaDB is the same as MySQL is that true? 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 ( talk) 10:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
This appears to be ambiguous and possible wrong. I am not sure if this statement refers to a specific geographic function or just the support for geographical data types or whether they are saying that without extensions it does not support geography. MariaDB supports geography via extensions according to this.. https://mariadb.com/kb/en/geographic-geometric-features/ ; I have not used them personally but I have used geographical extensions in postgres (named PostGIS) and adding extensions to a database is extremely trivial process. The PostGIS extension in Postgres (It is more accurately a library of functions and support for geography datatypes) is the best database support for geography I have come across so in principle there is nothing wrong with support via extensions. User TigaLightwave 18 September 2021
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=MariaDB&diff=prev&oldid=859343289 changed from library binary equivalency to library binary parity; and https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=MariaDB&diff=prev&oldid=369038618 initially wrote the damn confusing word. The reference never mentions "library binary".
On that account, I will remove this phrase. Gqqnb ( talk) 15:16, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
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Why it is written that MariaDB is "not 100% compatible" with JSON (on "Third-party software")? If I am not mistaken, MariaDB is compatible but added quite a lot in addition. Therefore, it seems the pharsing might be misleading. 2A10:800A:8683:0:2D77:971D:D7B6:DCD0 ( talk) 14:41, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
"MariaDB is a community-developed branch of the MySQL database, the impetus being the community maintenance of its free status under GPL, as opposed to any uncertainty of MySQL license status under its current ownership by Oracle."
This doesn't sound right to me. MariaDB began after Sun acquired MySQL but *before* Oracle acquired Sun, I believe.
Monty originally stated on his blog that it was a branch, not a fork. But this was before Oracle. Later, he notes that it became a "full fork". So I believe fork would be more accurate than branch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (Not that) Linus ( talk • contribs) 20:30, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
Third Party Softwares
I think that the section "Third Party Softwares" should not be there. Only 2 softwares are listed, but possibly every software written for MySQL could be there - but then they should be listed on other forks' pages, too. We could simply write that MariaDB is compatible with MySQL, except that it doesn't support NDB and IBMBD2 storage engines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.57.201.30 ( talk) 14:35, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
Second paragraph, first sentence: "The intent also being to maintain high fidelity with MySQL, ensuring a 'drop-in' replacement capability with library binary equivalency and exacting matching with MySQL APIs and commands." This sentence does not represent a complete thought. It may have initially been a continuation of the introduction sentence, later split off into its own paragraph, but it can't stand on its own as a sentence. Here are a few options that would work better, without altering the words used:
I'll let someone else decide how best to word this for best readability. -fysx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.248.142.244 ( talk) 04:02, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
It says in this article that MySQL AB was sold for a billion dollars, but on the Full Monty page it says he made 16 million euros capital gains... where did the rest of that money go? 108.14.123.172 ( talk) 19:53, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Does anybody have any guidance on this? Presumably it's "ma-ree-ah" but I've heard some people pronounce it "mu-riy-ah". Mrstonky ( talk) 11:11, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
But where is the accent/emphasis? I have heard both "ma-REE-ah" and "MA-ree-ah" Sdp61 ( talk) 18:43, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure it would be "ma-REE-ah", since everyone I know named Maria pronounces it that way (in the United States). XC Fan ( talk) 21:39, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Sort of "I just met a DB called Maria..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.6.176.27 ( talk) 06:14, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
XAMPP is now using MariaDB: https://www.apachefriends.org/blog/new_xampp_20151019.html -- Benimation ( talk) 15:40, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
It would be helpful for the article to document Linux distros (and other software distributions) that default to including MariaDB. For example, the article currently includes this sentence, which was helpful: "On this basis, Fedora developers replaced MySQL with MariaDB in Fedora 19, out of concerns that Oracle is making MySQL a more closed software project." as was it's reference: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ReplaceMySQLwithMariaDB I am adding information about RHEL 7 adoption. I'd appreciate it if users of other distros/operating systems could include information about those alternatives. I think this information is not only relevant and directly informative, but also has collateral value, such as settling the issue of notability (raised in 2013). 67.162.21.248 ( talk) 20:31, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
MariaDB is an ambiguous term. Most of this article refers to MariaDB Server which is governed by the MariaDB Foundation and is one of the many products that MariaDB Corporation employees work on. There is also MariaDB MaxScale, MariaDB ColumnStore and so on. Maybe this page needs to be split, but really, there is no "MariaDB" per se. We need to get the terms right since this is encyclopedic content.
I am going to challenge that introduction assertion based on the following references:
I would propose something like shifting the description to something like "non-profit-driven" or "non-oracle-driven" or "foundation-driven" or something along the lines that it is an alternative to and Oracle-driven project, but I think community-driven is a falsehood. A complete and more accurate description could be done at large with all nuances at a later time on a governance paragraph. I think community-developed was an initial intention, but I think in the latest years there has been a shift towards corporate sponsors taking charge for the development process, and as such, the article should be updated to reflect the current reality. Being non-community driven is not a problem, there are many successful open-source projects that are corporate-driven.
As some of that could be controversial, I am asking for discussion first, will change at some point if my assertion is not challenged.
Disclaimers: I am personally one of the largest MariaDB individual donors, and so is my current employer. -- jynus ( talk) 14:19, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
I wanted here to to share my thoughts on how this change affects the MariaDB community.
-- https://mariadb.org/why-skysql-becoming-mariadb-corporation-will-be-good-for-the-mariadb-foundation/The short version: As the MariaDB Corporation is the main driving force behind the development of the MariaDB server and the biggest support provider for it, it makes sense to give it a name that clearly communicates this fact. The name change doesn’t of course stop the company to continue it’s excellent support for MySQL.
No. "Due to concerns over its acquisition by Oracle Corporation" is nonsense. The article doesn't even say that. It states that Widenius forked MySQL immediately after the Sun acquisition. That's about a year and a half before Oracle acquired Sun. Widenius was indeed concerned to preserve the project's openness, but he was thinking of Sun, which also had an anti-OS reputation. That's the official story, anyway. In fact, Widenius and other MySQL employees were antagonized by Sun's "not invented here" culture, and bailed after about a year — the usual outcome for Sun acquisitions. I speak with some authority, since I was working at Sun at the time. Isaac Rabinovitch ( talk) 20:08, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
Saw a claim on a article that MariaDB is the same as MySQL is that true? 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 ( talk) 10:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
This appears to be ambiguous and possible wrong. I am not sure if this statement refers to a specific geographic function or just the support for geographical data types or whether they are saying that without extensions it does not support geography. MariaDB supports geography via extensions according to this.. https://mariadb.com/kb/en/geographic-geometric-features/ ; I have not used them personally but I have used geographical extensions in postgres (named PostGIS) and adding extensions to a database is extremely trivial process. The PostGIS extension in Postgres (It is more accurately a library of functions and support for geography datatypes) is the best database support for geography I have come across so in principle there is nothing wrong with support via extensions. User TigaLightwave 18 September 2021
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=MariaDB&diff=prev&oldid=859343289 changed from library binary equivalency to library binary parity; and https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=MariaDB&diff=prev&oldid=369038618 initially wrote the damn confusing word. The reference never mentions "library binary".
On that account, I will remove this phrase. Gqqnb ( talk) 15:16, 20 August 2023 (UTC)