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I do not believe that Miss Hubbard won the Ireland in 1958, at age 34. It was a scholarship for undergraduates. She was in fact a candidate for it in 1952, but it was won by the much younger prodigy Michael Molian, of Blundell's School and Christ Church. The source has got this wrong. I could say some more of interest about MH, having learnt it from my close lifelong friend RGM Nisbet, her collaborator on Horace, but it would be OR
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Please could you give the source for her having won the Ireland? It is hard to find a negative source.
The university must have reords of winners, I suppose.
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I have just looked at this again. I don't see a source for the statement about the Ireland, but it must be a bad one.
The Times "Lives Remembered" feature, shortly after her obituary, contained an interesting remark about her made to Michael Molian by Professor Eduard Fraenkel, praising her knowledge of both languages.
What Nisbet said to me was that she had difficulty in expressing her ideas, but there will never be a source for that. There is a curious extract from her book on Propertius that you can bring up from the bibliography, in which she seems to attribute some very well-known words of Horace to Propertius. different metre and all. It is not easy to understand. 12:34, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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I do not believe that Miss Hubbard won the Ireland in 1958, at age 34. It was a scholarship for undergraduates. She was in fact a candidate for it in 1952, but it was won by the much younger prodigy Michael Molian, of Blundell's School and Christ Church. The source has got this wrong. I could say some more of interest about MH, having learnt it from my close lifelong friend RGM Nisbet, her collaborator on Horace, but it would be OR
Esedowns (
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Wikipedia can only indicate what the published sources say (see
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Verifiability,_not_truth) - if you have additional or contrary verifiable sources useful for adding to or editing this page please do send them over, and I'd be happy to continue improving the page.
KateCook (
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Please could you give the source for her having won the Ireland? It is hard to find a negative source.
The university must have reords of winners, I suppose.
Esedowns (
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I have just looked at this again. I don't see a source for the statement about the Ireland, but it must be a bad one.
The Times "Lives Remembered" feature, shortly after her obituary, contained an interesting remark about her made to Michael Molian by Professor Eduard Fraenkel, praising her knowledge of both languages.
What Nisbet said to me was that she had difficulty in expressing her ideas, but there will never be a source for that. There is a curious extract from her book on Propertius that you can bring up from the bibliography, in which she seems to attribute some very well-known words of Horace to Propertius. different metre and all. It is not easy to understand. 12:34, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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