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"Her standpoint on women's suffrage—she favoured extending the vote to all adults regardless of gender or property, rather than the limited "on the same terms as men" agenda pursued by the militant suffragists—divided her from the militant leadership." - see, to me, that sounds like the key difference between her and the WSPU leadership was that she was less conservative, not less militant. The East London Federation of Suffragettes was more radical than both the WSPU and Bondfield and arguably more militant as well, and it seems to me that Bondfield might have had more in common politically with the East London Federation at least in their early period. 86.153.58.168 ( talk) 14:14, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
I would be interested to know if there is an explanation as to why a woman who supposedly never married would wear what appears to be wedding ring on her left hand. EditorExtraordinaire ( talk) 13:56, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Browsing the sources, there seem to be numerous testimonials to her quality as a public speaker. I'm not sure this comes out well in the current draft as Skidelsky's "harsh cascade of sound" seems to dominate. For example, " the finest speaker she ever heard"; " her pleasantly toned, deep voice has great carrying power. I have often seen her sway an audience and lift it for the moment to the height of some great idea by the force of her own feeling and deep sincerity."; " in her clear, resonant, musical voice". We need more on this, I reckon, as it seems likely to have been a major factor in her advancement. Andrew D. ( talk) 14:30, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Her familiar nickname of "Maggie" is disputed:- , revert. The complaint was that there was "no basis for this addition". The main source for this fact was her obituary in The Times, which said:
"Maggie" Bondfield was a woman of lovable temperament ... "Maggie" Bondfield (the diminutive clung to her throughout her career)
This seems an adequate basis and it's easy to see this usage in numerous other sources, e.g.
My position remains that she was commonly known as "Maggie" throughout her life and long afterwards. The manner of presentation in the lead was cribbed from Anthony Neil Wedgwood "Tony" Benn. Andrew D. ( talk) 10:38, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
Margaret Bondfield, known in private life as "Maggie"' currently at §Childhood and family. Robert Altman was known as Bob but that fact is not recorded in the lead as the subject was publicly known as Robert Altman. By contrast, Bill Clinton was known as Bill in public life, as correctly reflected in the lead of his article. Johnuniq ( talk) 00:40, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
I think this matter might now be considered resolved. Thanks to those who contributed. Brianboulton ( talk) 00:27, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Bondfield, Margaret (1873–1953)
Trade union organizer, advocate of child welfare improvement, lecturer, and first woman member of a British Cabinet. Name variations: Maggie; (pseudonym) Grace Dare. Born Margaret Grace Bondfield on March 17, 1873, in Furnham, Somerset, England; died in Sanderstead, Surrey, on June 16, 1953; daughter of William (foreman of a lace-making factory) and Ann (Taylor) Bondfield; attended elementary school until 14; never married; no children.
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I recall seeing in a TV series of DH Lawrence's Sons and Lovers in 2003 that Paul Morel and his paramour Clara attend a suffrage related public meeting addressed by Margaret Bondfield, as I heard the name announced. I would like to know if Lawrence did write her into his novel (she was not yet an MP at the time the novel was set and the novel was published in her lifetime when she was still active in the suffrage campaign) or if this was just an embellishment for tv drama purposes. Cloptonson ( talk) 09:55, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Can't see the significance of the picture of Golders Green Crematorium. If her funeral was attended by so many top ministers, why not a pic of that gathering?
There are numerous references to the "living-in system" and also to "living out privileges" in this article but now indication of what that means, and Google actually isn't much help. Can someone add a brief explanation? -- Jfruh ( talk) 01:05, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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"Her standpoint on women's suffrage—she favoured extending the vote to all adults regardless of gender or property, rather than the limited "on the same terms as men" agenda pursued by the militant suffragists—divided her from the militant leadership." - see, to me, that sounds like the key difference between her and the WSPU leadership was that she was less conservative, not less militant. The East London Federation of Suffragettes was more radical than both the WSPU and Bondfield and arguably more militant as well, and it seems to me that Bondfield might have had more in common politically with the East London Federation at least in their early period. 86.153.58.168 ( talk) 14:14, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
I would be interested to know if there is an explanation as to why a woman who supposedly never married would wear what appears to be wedding ring on her left hand. EditorExtraordinaire ( talk) 13:56, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Browsing the sources, there seem to be numerous testimonials to her quality as a public speaker. I'm not sure this comes out well in the current draft as Skidelsky's "harsh cascade of sound" seems to dominate. For example, " the finest speaker she ever heard"; " her pleasantly toned, deep voice has great carrying power. I have often seen her sway an audience and lift it for the moment to the height of some great idea by the force of her own feeling and deep sincerity."; " in her clear, resonant, musical voice". We need more on this, I reckon, as it seems likely to have been a major factor in her advancement. Andrew D. ( talk) 14:30, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Her familiar nickname of "Maggie" is disputed:- , revert. The complaint was that there was "no basis for this addition". The main source for this fact was her obituary in The Times, which said:
"Maggie" Bondfield was a woman of lovable temperament ... "Maggie" Bondfield (the diminutive clung to her throughout her career)
This seems an adequate basis and it's easy to see this usage in numerous other sources, e.g.
My position remains that she was commonly known as "Maggie" throughout her life and long afterwards. The manner of presentation in the lead was cribbed from Anthony Neil Wedgwood "Tony" Benn. Andrew D. ( talk) 10:38, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
Margaret Bondfield, known in private life as "Maggie"' currently at §Childhood and family. Robert Altman was known as Bob but that fact is not recorded in the lead as the subject was publicly known as Robert Altman. By contrast, Bill Clinton was known as Bill in public life, as correctly reflected in the lead of his article. Johnuniq ( talk) 00:40, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
I think this matter might now be considered resolved. Thanks to those who contributed. Brianboulton ( talk) 00:27, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Bondfield, Margaret (1873–1953)
Trade union organizer, advocate of child welfare improvement, lecturer, and first woman member of a British Cabinet. Name variations: Maggie; (pseudonym) Grace Dare. Born Margaret Grace Bondfield on March 17, 1873, in Furnham, Somerset, England; died in Sanderstead, Surrey, on June 16, 1953; daughter of William (foreman of a lace-making factory) and Ann (Taylor) Bondfield; attended elementary school until 14; never married; no children.
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I recall seeing in a TV series of DH Lawrence's Sons and Lovers in 2003 that Paul Morel and his paramour Clara attend a suffrage related public meeting addressed by Margaret Bondfield, as I heard the name announced. I would like to know if Lawrence did write her into his novel (she was not yet an MP at the time the novel was set and the novel was published in her lifetime when she was still active in the suffrage campaign) or if this was just an embellishment for tv drama purposes. Cloptonson ( talk) 09:55, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Can't see the significance of the picture of Golders Green Crematorium. If her funeral was attended by so many top ministers, why not a pic of that gathering?
There are numerous references to the "living-in system" and also to "living out privileges" in this article but now indication of what that means, and Google actually isn't much help. Can someone add a brief explanation? -- Jfruh ( talk) 01:05, 8 June 2022 (UTC)