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Support. Although she is referred to by contemporary sources as Margaret Marshal, including her claim to perform the office by deputy at the coronation of
Richard II of England, this is not a surname but the office of
Marshal.
Septentrionalis 15:26, 12 September 2005 (UTC)reply
Neutral. In view of the fact that she was Duchess of Norfolk in her own right, the proposed move seems reasonable. However, I don't particularly think it's better than the present title.
Deb 20:39, 14 September 2005 (UTC)reply
Support. The putative surname is totally incorrect in this case, and also it should be a controlling principle that medieval persons are not to be assigned a surname if they did not use it at the time. I believe it is totally unencyclopedic to give in to some retrospective concoction of surnames to persons of earlier eras just because British peers of modern ages tend to have a surname at least before their accession.
Arrigo 08:31, 16 September 2005 (UTC)reply
Support, agree with the point that she didn't have a surname.
James F.(talk) 01:37, 18 September 2005 (UTC)reply
I've provisionally deleted the statement that she had two sons who died young, Edmund and John, and a daughter Anne who was Abbess of Barking, as there appear to be no reliable sources which support the statement.
NinaGreen (
talk) 00:41, 17 October 2013 (UTC)reply
Duchess?
Should it not be "Countess", as in the article?
Tostarpadius (
talk) 12:37, 6 July 2015 (UTC)reply
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Support. Although she is referred to by contemporary sources as Margaret Marshal, including her claim to perform the office by deputy at the coronation of
Richard II of England, this is not a surname but the office of
Marshal.
Septentrionalis 15:26, 12 September 2005 (UTC)reply
Neutral. In view of the fact that she was Duchess of Norfolk in her own right, the proposed move seems reasonable. However, I don't particularly think it's better than the present title.
Deb 20:39, 14 September 2005 (UTC)reply
Support. The putative surname is totally incorrect in this case, and also it should be a controlling principle that medieval persons are not to be assigned a surname if they did not use it at the time. I believe it is totally unencyclopedic to give in to some retrospective concoction of surnames to persons of earlier eras just because British peers of modern ages tend to have a surname at least before their accession.
Arrigo 08:31, 16 September 2005 (UTC)reply
Support, agree with the point that she didn't have a surname.
James F.(talk) 01:37, 18 September 2005 (UTC)reply
I've provisionally deleted the statement that she had two sons who died young, Edmund and John, and a daughter Anne who was Abbess of Barking, as there appear to be no reliable sources which support the statement.
NinaGreen (
talk) 00:41, 17 October 2013 (UTC)reply
Duchess?
Should it not be "Countess", as in the article?
Tostarpadius (
talk) 12:37, 6 July 2015 (UTC)reply