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A discussion has been occurring at WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome over the best title for this article, which, if memory serves, used to be at "Marcus Junius Brutus the Younger" and is currently at "Brutus the Younger". After some debate, I think we're probably closing in on a consensus, but for the sake of completeness I think the matter should be decided here, so that people with this page on their watchlists will have the opportunity to weigh in, and so there's a record of the discussion on the article's talk page. Given the article's history and the options under discussion at CGR, the choices seem to be, in alphabetical order:
I suggest we indicate our preferences below this comment, keeping them as succinct as possible. P Aculeius ( talk) 15:06, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
It's been a week (and a day), with no new replies in nearly a week. Before closing this I'll summarize the current opinions from both here and the CGR talk page, and ask if anybody else wants to weigh in (updated 19 November).
Septentrionalis did not express a clear preference; nor did Llywrch, except that he did not like Brutus. Based on these results, I would say we don't have a strong consensus for which title to move the article to, but a small majority prefers the tria nomina. So, why don't we leave this open for another week, in case somebody else wants to have a say, or someone has changed his or her mind, and if we still have the same basic outcome in a week's time, move the article to Marcus Junius Brutus. P Aculeius ( talk) 13:35, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
Note Another thing which I think needs to be mentioned is that whatever way this goes Marcus Junius Brutus the Elder (main man's father) should be moved to Marcus Junius Brutus (father of Brutus) since that is the naming convention for notable relatives of far more famous ancient people (for example his mother is at Servilia (mother of Brutus) and his wife if at Porcia (wife of Brutus)). "Marcus Junius Brutus the Elder" is a name I have never once seen outside of Wikipedia (discouting places that clearly ripp from Wikipedia). ★Trekker ( talk) 15:00, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
The discussion seems to have died down, with no new comments in three days, and most of the opinions having been given over a week ago. To summarize the results, nobody in the discussion here or at CGR likes the present title or the previous title. Although a couple of people didn't indicate what title they preferred, everyone else has indicated their support for one of two proposals, both of which are theoretically consistent with our naming policy on ancient Romans. The opinions differ largely according to which title editors think is sufficiently specific to avoid confusion with other figures from Roman history.
I believe this is sufficient consensus to move the page to Marcus Junius Brutus. P Aculeius ( talk) 20:19, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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T8612: Hello there! I don't have a copy of Crawford's book on coinage. I believe, however, you do? There's a claim in the article: M. Crawford (1971) Roman Republican Coinage 502.2 shows that Brutus issued coins bearing the inscription Q. CAEPIO BRVTVS PRO [COS] (Q. Caepio Brutus, proconsul) in 42 BC
. Could you verify? Thanks.
Ifly6 (
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20:42, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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A discussion has been occurring at WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome over the best title for this article, which, if memory serves, used to be at "Marcus Junius Brutus the Younger" and is currently at "Brutus the Younger". After some debate, I think we're probably closing in on a consensus, but for the sake of completeness I think the matter should be decided here, so that people with this page on their watchlists will have the opportunity to weigh in, and so there's a record of the discussion on the article's talk page. Given the article's history and the options under discussion at CGR, the choices seem to be, in alphabetical order:
I suggest we indicate our preferences below this comment, keeping them as succinct as possible. P Aculeius ( talk) 15:06, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
It's been a week (and a day), with no new replies in nearly a week. Before closing this I'll summarize the current opinions from both here and the CGR talk page, and ask if anybody else wants to weigh in (updated 19 November).
Septentrionalis did not express a clear preference; nor did Llywrch, except that he did not like Brutus. Based on these results, I would say we don't have a strong consensus for which title to move the article to, but a small majority prefers the tria nomina. So, why don't we leave this open for another week, in case somebody else wants to have a say, or someone has changed his or her mind, and if we still have the same basic outcome in a week's time, move the article to Marcus Junius Brutus. P Aculeius ( talk) 13:35, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
Note Another thing which I think needs to be mentioned is that whatever way this goes Marcus Junius Brutus the Elder (main man's father) should be moved to Marcus Junius Brutus (father of Brutus) since that is the naming convention for notable relatives of far more famous ancient people (for example his mother is at Servilia (mother of Brutus) and his wife if at Porcia (wife of Brutus)). "Marcus Junius Brutus the Elder" is a name I have never once seen outside of Wikipedia (discouting places that clearly ripp from Wikipedia). ★Trekker ( talk) 15:00, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
The discussion seems to have died down, with no new comments in three days, and most of the opinions having been given over a week ago. To summarize the results, nobody in the discussion here or at CGR likes the present title or the previous title. Although a couple of people didn't indicate what title they preferred, everyone else has indicated their support for one of two proposals, both of which are theoretically consistent with our naming policy on ancient Romans. The opinions differ largely according to which title editors think is sufficiently specific to avoid confusion with other figures from Roman history.
I believe this is sufficient consensus to move the page to Marcus Junius Brutus. P Aculeius ( talk) 20:19, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
@
T8612: Hello there! I don't have a copy of Crawford's book on coinage. I believe, however, you do? There's a claim in the article: M. Crawford (1971) Roman Republican Coinage 502.2 shows that Brutus issued coins bearing the inscription Q. CAEPIO BRVTVS PRO [COS] (Q. Caepio Brutus, proconsul) in 42 BC
. Could you verify? Thanks.
Ifly6 (
talk)
20:42, 14 April 2022 (UTC)