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This unreliable source records that, the day of Marcian's inauguration, there was no daylight and no eclipse. Any reliable sources confirm so we can add that to this article? — LlywelynII 22:20, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
Similarly, this unreliable source records that Marcian was the first example of a Roman emperor being ceremonially entered into his office by the church. Any reliable sources confirm so we can add that to this article? — LlywelynII 22:22, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
The box states that Marcian was a "Byzantine" emperor. This is not general usage, as required by WP practice. The convention is for the term "Eastern Roman Empire" to be used at least until the fall of the Western Empire, and many such as the impeccable A H M Jones avoid the term "Byzantine" right up to Heraclius and the seventh century crisis. Deipnosophista ( talk) 07:18, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
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All in all, I think this article completely fulfills all of the GA criteria. Congratulations! Excellent work! -- Katolophyromai ( talk) 03:25, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Noted in passing:
In response to the request on my talk page, I'd like to offer an informal review of this article's suitability for a FAC:
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Although Marcian had a son-in-law, Anthemius, he did not have any connection to the Theodosians, and thus would not be considered legitimate, so Aspar was once again left to play the role of emperor-maker. Aspar selected Leo I, a fifty-year-old officer commanding a unit in the praesental army.
This doesn't make sense. If Anthemius's lack of connections to the Theodosian dynasty meant he wasn't a legitimate claimant to the throne, why was Leo, who completely lacked any imperial family connections, considered an acceptable alternative? -- Jfruh ( talk) 01:03, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Because Aspar mistakingly believed that Leo I the Thracian would be a relatively convenient puppet ruler:
As usual with Roman emperors, they depended on the army's support to get to the throne. The previous emperors Jovian, Valentinian I, and Eugenius had been elected or appointed by the army during interregnums. With the Theodosian dynasty out of the way, it was back to business as usual. Dimadick ( talk) 17:14, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
This map from 1911 (most likely Brittanica?) is wildly inaccurate, just like some of the much-exaggerated Mongol Empire maps we've had removed ... Attila's empire neither reached the northern sea or the northern parts of today's Russia - there are many better sources out there. This needs to be replaced - and badly. 50.111.14.1 ( talk) 21:14, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
A quote: Marcian was elected without any consultation with the Western Roman Emperor, Valentinian III—a clear indication of further separation between the Eastern and Western Roman Empires than before his reign.
There were eastern and western emperors, but there were not Eastern and Western Empires, there were eastern and western halves, regions, segments or any relevant words like that. There was only one empire. Each emperor had the legitimate right to rule the whole empire, both halves, if there were not political decisions overriding that right, such as the political agreement to have two emperors in a then current time.
Edit: talking of western emperor Valentinian III, he was appointed by eastern emperor Theodosius II, going back to Valentinian I, he appointed himself to the west and brother Valens to the east. I am writing this on 12th April, the date eastern emperor Leo I appointed Anthemius as western emperor.
Middle More Rider ( talk) 14:29, 26 January 2022 (UTC) Middle More Rider ( talk) 00:57, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
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This unreliable source records that, the day of Marcian's inauguration, there was no daylight and no eclipse. Any reliable sources confirm so we can add that to this article? — LlywelynII 22:20, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
Similarly, this unreliable source records that Marcian was the first example of a Roman emperor being ceremonially entered into his office by the church. Any reliable sources confirm so we can add that to this article? — LlywelynII 22:22, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
The box states that Marcian was a "Byzantine" emperor. This is not general usage, as required by WP practice. The convention is for the term "Eastern Roman Empire" to be used at least until the fall of the Western Empire, and many such as the impeccable A H M Jones avoid the term "Byzantine" right up to Heraclius and the seventh century crisis. Deipnosophista ( talk) 07:18, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Katolophyromai ( talk · contribs) 04:08, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
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All in all, I think this article completely fulfills all of the GA criteria. Congratulations! Excellent work! -- Katolophyromai ( talk) 03:25, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Noted in passing:
In response to the request on my talk page, I'd like to offer an informal review of this article's suitability for a FAC:
The article says:
Although Marcian had a son-in-law, Anthemius, he did not have any connection to the Theodosians, and thus would not be considered legitimate, so Aspar was once again left to play the role of emperor-maker. Aspar selected Leo I, a fifty-year-old officer commanding a unit in the praesental army.
This doesn't make sense. If Anthemius's lack of connections to the Theodosian dynasty meant he wasn't a legitimate claimant to the throne, why was Leo, who completely lacked any imperial family connections, considered an acceptable alternative? -- Jfruh ( talk) 01:03, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Because Aspar mistakingly believed that Leo I the Thracian would be a relatively convenient puppet ruler:
As usual with Roman emperors, they depended on the army's support to get to the throne. The previous emperors Jovian, Valentinian I, and Eugenius had been elected or appointed by the army during interregnums. With the Theodosian dynasty out of the way, it was back to business as usual. Dimadick ( talk) 17:14, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
This map from 1911 (most likely Brittanica?) is wildly inaccurate, just like some of the much-exaggerated Mongol Empire maps we've had removed ... Attila's empire neither reached the northern sea or the northern parts of today's Russia - there are many better sources out there. This needs to be replaced - and badly. 50.111.14.1 ( talk) 21:14, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
A quote: Marcian was elected without any consultation with the Western Roman Emperor, Valentinian III—a clear indication of further separation between the Eastern and Western Roman Empires than before his reign.
There were eastern and western emperors, but there were not Eastern and Western Empires, there were eastern and western halves, regions, segments or any relevant words like that. There was only one empire. Each emperor had the legitimate right to rule the whole empire, both halves, if there were not political decisions overriding that right, such as the political agreement to have two emperors in a then current time.
Edit: talking of western emperor Valentinian III, he was appointed by eastern emperor Theodosius II, going back to Valentinian I, he appointed himself to the west and brother Valens to the east. I am writing this on 12th April, the date eastern emperor Leo I appointed Anthemius as western emperor.
Middle More Rider ( talk) 14:29, 26 January 2022 (UTC) Middle More Rider ( talk) 00:57, 12 April 2022 (UTC)