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Someone posted
This article should be split into multiple articles accessible from a disambiguation page.
The point here is conversely, to draw together these various usages of "marches," some of them in forms that aren't superficially recognizable. Breaking up Wikipedia articles until the fragments bear no coherence actually loses inforemation. Compare " holistic".
-- Wetman 04:48, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I was looking for something in this article about Mars, the Roman god of war. I had thought (mistakenly) that military titles like Marquis, Mark, etc. derived from the name of Mars, the Roman god of war. It might help to identify this as a misconception.
And for those who wonder about the connection between the modern English word "mark" and "the Proto-Indo-European root *mereg-, meaning 'edge, boundary'" mentioned in this article, there's an interesting etymology for the word "mark" in Random House Webster's Unabridged Dictionary, 1999: [1375–1425; late ME marchen < MF march(i)er, OF marchier to tread, move < Frankish *markōn presumably, to mark, pace out (a boundary); see MARK1].
-- ScottS 17:39, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
The term March in March of Azerbaijan is referring to a march as in: 1. to walk with regular and measured tread, as soldiers on parade; advance in step in an organized body.
In this article, the Norse meaning of Heiðmörk is given as "the march of heath", while in the article on Hedmark, the Heið part is said to come from the heiðnir, a Germanic tribe in the region. I don't know which one is correct, but this inconsistency ought perhaps to be corrected? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hinakana ( talk • contribs) 11:07, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
I must say that military frontier to which a link is made refering to balkans is totaly incorrect. Not only that none of the military frontiers listed in the article was not on the balkans peninsula, but these military frontiers actually divided central europe from the balkans (being located to the north of balkans) . The same border applies even today as border the balkan peninsula. Note that these military frontiers were part of Austria-Hungary while the balkans was under turkish occupation. Hammer of Habsburg ( talk) 22:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
It has been suggested that the use of the phrase British Isles in this article should be deleted. The use of this term in this article is being discussed at WT:BISE#March (territory) If you would like to contribute to the debate please do so. |
Daicaregos ( talk) 09:40, 19 November 2010 (UTC) Daicaregos ( talk) 09:27, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Further information has been added about the March in Ireland. As it's unrelated to the March in either Scotland or Wales, I've placed it in its own section. Daicaregos ( talk) 16:50, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Jeanne, I have to raise this again here. Only 6 days ago, you told us confidently that there were no such thing as marches in Ireland. Now you appear not to realise that Ireland was ruled by kings from England at this time to a large extent, and then reducing. The marches were therefore between England and the various "Hibernian" tribes. Same peoples, same cultures etc.
I asked you what you knew about ths subject and the references I offered this discussion. Did you read them? -- LevenBoy ( talk) 17:11, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
These headings need to be re-merged & re-named 'British Isles'. Then we can go through this mix-up, one step at a time. GoodDay ( talk) 23:01, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
I put a square bracket section into a <!-- ... --> thing because it disputes a statement in the intro without a reference for it and makes the intro unclear. If anyone objects, please talk to me. Manytexts ( talk) 08:50, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
The article currently says:
In contrast to a mutually agreed upon demilitarised buffer zone, a march is a non-homeland territory fortified for defence against a rival power.
How were for example the Scottish Marches "a march is a non-homeland territory fortified for defence against a rival power" or the Welsh Marches non-homeland territory?
The definition here needs adjustment so I am going to change it to:
BTW the last references I have seen to Marches are in Germany and Italy during the Napoleonic Wars, specifically in some of the peace treaties eg s:Final Act of the Congress of Vienna/General Treaty (9 June 1815) see for example Germany Art. XXXI "A second from the Old March, through Gihorn and Noustadt to Minden."; and Italy Art. CIII "The Marches, with Camerino, and their dependencies...".
-- PBS ( talk) 21:12, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
Shouldn't Finnmark be expanded upon? Because the medieval Finnmark was much larger than the modern day province in Norway. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/31/Norway_1020_AD.png/640px-Norway_1020_AD.png -- 77.222.163.148 ( talk) 14:41, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
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Someone posted
This article should be split into multiple articles accessible from a disambiguation page.
The point here is conversely, to draw together these various usages of "marches," some of them in forms that aren't superficially recognizable. Breaking up Wikipedia articles until the fragments bear no coherence actually loses inforemation. Compare " holistic".
-- Wetman 04:48, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I was looking for something in this article about Mars, the Roman god of war. I had thought (mistakenly) that military titles like Marquis, Mark, etc. derived from the name of Mars, the Roman god of war. It might help to identify this as a misconception.
And for those who wonder about the connection between the modern English word "mark" and "the Proto-Indo-European root *mereg-, meaning 'edge, boundary'" mentioned in this article, there's an interesting etymology for the word "mark" in Random House Webster's Unabridged Dictionary, 1999: [1375–1425; late ME marchen < MF march(i)er, OF marchier to tread, move < Frankish *markōn presumably, to mark, pace out (a boundary); see MARK1].
-- ScottS 17:39, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
The term March in March of Azerbaijan is referring to a march as in: 1. to walk with regular and measured tread, as soldiers on parade; advance in step in an organized body.
In this article, the Norse meaning of Heiðmörk is given as "the march of heath", while in the article on Hedmark, the Heið part is said to come from the heiðnir, a Germanic tribe in the region. I don't know which one is correct, but this inconsistency ought perhaps to be corrected? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hinakana ( talk • contribs) 11:07, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
I must say that military frontier to which a link is made refering to balkans is totaly incorrect. Not only that none of the military frontiers listed in the article was not on the balkans peninsula, but these military frontiers actually divided central europe from the balkans (being located to the north of balkans) . The same border applies even today as border the balkan peninsula. Note that these military frontiers were part of Austria-Hungary while the balkans was under turkish occupation. Hammer of Habsburg ( talk) 22:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
It has been suggested that the use of the phrase British Isles in this article should be deleted. The use of this term in this article is being discussed at WT:BISE#March (territory) If you would like to contribute to the debate please do so. |
Daicaregos ( talk) 09:40, 19 November 2010 (UTC) Daicaregos ( talk) 09:27, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Further information has been added about the March in Ireland. As it's unrelated to the March in either Scotland or Wales, I've placed it in its own section. Daicaregos ( talk) 16:50, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Jeanne, I have to raise this again here. Only 6 days ago, you told us confidently that there were no such thing as marches in Ireland. Now you appear not to realise that Ireland was ruled by kings from England at this time to a large extent, and then reducing. The marches were therefore between England and the various "Hibernian" tribes. Same peoples, same cultures etc.
I asked you what you knew about ths subject and the references I offered this discussion. Did you read them? -- LevenBoy ( talk) 17:11, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
These headings need to be re-merged & re-named 'British Isles'. Then we can go through this mix-up, one step at a time. GoodDay ( talk) 23:01, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
I put a square bracket section into a <!-- ... --> thing because it disputes a statement in the intro without a reference for it and makes the intro unclear. If anyone objects, please talk to me. Manytexts ( talk) 08:50, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
The article currently says:
In contrast to a mutually agreed upon demilitarised buffer zone, a march is a non-homeland territory fortified for defence against a rival power.
How were for example the Scottish Marches "a march is a non-homeland territory fortified for defence against a rival power" or the Welsh Marches non-homeland territory?
The definition here needs adjustment so I am going to change it to:
BTW the last references I have seen to Marches are in Germany and Italy during the Napoleonic Wars, specifically in some of the peace treaties eg s:Final Act of the Congress of Vienna/General Treaty (9 June 1815) see for example Germany Art. XXXI "A second from the Old March, through Gihorn and Noustadt to Minden."; and Italy Art. CIII "The Marches, with Camerino, and their dependencies...".
-- PBS ( talk) 21:12, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
Shouldn't Finnmark be expanded upon? Because the medieval Finnmark was much larger than the modern day province in Norway. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/31/Norway_1020_AD.png/640px-Norway_1020_AD.png -- 77.222.163.148 ( talk) 14:41, 15 September 2014 (UTC)