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Hi Proscribe, could you clarify the basis for this bracketing out from the article and where did you see that info about an alternative steering committee of MBC? (I've no idea what happened, I can only see what is claimed at the top of the statement on what appears to be the MBC website) Eversync ( talk) 12:22, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
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Is it valid to describe someone who is a known public figure solely for being a racist against Jews as an "anti-racist activist" just because he self-identifies as such? Reliable sources would seem to indicate he is much more of a pro-racism activist. Predestiprestidigitation ( talk) 08:45, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
Absolutelypuremilk, I appreciate that the source is an opinion piece but it wasn't being cited for its general opinion, but one factual claim. To say only ambiguously 'According to a labour activist' the report misquoted Wadsworth, doesn't seem ideal for readers, I wonder if you have tried to collaboratively help find better sourcing? Need to avoid Original Research of course but for the record there is media of the event showing exactly what Wadsworth said (e.g. [1] and [2] "“I saw that the Telegraph handed a copy of a press release to Ruth Smeeth MP, so you can see who’s working hand in hand.”). Yet both Smeeth's subsequent media release misquoted him (as if he'd said "media conspiracy"), and then the Committee report put the comment in quotes as reportedly ""Ruth Smeeth is working hand-in-hand with the right-wing media to attack Jeremy”". Eversync ( talk) 13:43, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
As the title says, it seems a bit that wikipedia is using articles written by Marc Wadsworth as justification for the labelling of him as an "anti-racist". Brough87 ( talk) 12:56, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi Nedrutland, I appreciate your checking and revising of my recent edits. However couldn't the paragraph you removed today have been reworded instead since the source from a Jewish author who was at the Inquiry, and cites a Rabbi who was, is directly on topic? https://nyebevannews.co.uk/i-was-proud-to-be-one-of-the-witnesses-marc-called-to-try-to-prevent-this-injustice-and-i-was-motivated-to-do-so-above-all-because-i-detest-dishonesty-and-manipulation/
Btw the intro seems to have been split in half by the infobox by the paragraph break you put in, and does it have to say "launch of the publication of the report on the inquiry into....", though you've removed reference to the journalists Wadsworth was responding to, and in the older Johnson incident to African-Caribbean people, due to need for brevity? Swishoo ( talk) 12:19, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
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Hi Proscribe, could you clarify the basis for this bracketing out from the article and where did you see that info about an alternative steering committee of MBC? (I've no idea what happened, I can only see what is claimed at the top of the statement on what appears to be the MBC website) Eversync ( talk) 12:22, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
<!-- No corroboration for claim of his dismissal and potentially libellous? On 2 July, a statement purporting to come from Momentum Black ConneXions (MBC) said at the top of a "formal response" to the Chakrabarti Inquiry that Wadsworth had been dismissed from MBC in April 2016. Wadsworth, backed by a national Steering Committee that says it is the legitimate MBC, disputes this.<ref>[https://momentumblackconnexions.wordpress.com/2016/07/02/a-formal-response-to-the-shami-chakrabarti-inquiry/ A Formal Response to the Shami Chakrabarti Inquiry], 2 July 2016, Momentum Black ConneXions, Interim Steering Committee. Retrieved 4 July 2016.</ref>-->
Is it valid to describe someone who is a known public figure solely for being a racist against Jews as an "anti-racist activist" just because he self-identifies as such? Reliable sources would seem to indicate he is much more of a pro-racism activist. Predestiprestidigitation ( talk) 08:45, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
Absolutelypuremilk, I appreciate that the source is an opinion piece but it wasn't being cited for its general opinion, but one factual claim. To say only ambiguously 'According to a labour activist' the report misquoted Wadsworth, doesn't seem ideal for readers, I wonder if you have tried to collaboratively help find better sourcing? Need to avoid Original Research of course but for the record there is media of the event showing exactly what Wadsworth said (e.g. [1] and [2] "“I saw that the Telegraph handed a copy of a press release to Ruth Smeeth MP, so you can see who’s working hand in hand.”). Yet both Smeeth's subsequent media release misquoted him (as if he'd said "media conspiracy"), and then the Committee report put the comment in quotes as reportedly ""Ruth Smeeth is working hand-in-hand with the right-wing media to attack Jeremy”". Eversync ( talk) 13:43, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
As the title says, it seems a bit that wikipedia is using articles written by Marc Wadsworth as justification for the labelling of him as an "anti-racist". Brough87 ( talk) 12:56, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi Nedrutland, I appreciate your checking and revising of my recent edits. However couldn't the paragraph you removed today have been reworded instead since the source from a Jewish author who was at the Inquiry, and cites a Rabbi who was, is directly on topic? https://nyebevannews.co.uk/i-was-proud-to-be-one-of-the-witnesses-marc-called-to-try-to-prevent-this-injustice-and-i-was-motivated-to-do-so-above-all-because-i-detest-dishonesty-and-manipulation/
Btw the intro seems to have been split in half by the infobox by the paragraph break you put in, and does it have to say "launch of the publication of the report on the inquiry into....", though you've removed reference to the journalists Wadsworth was responding to, and in the older Johnson incident to African-Caribbean people, due to need for brevity? Swishoo ( talk) 12:19, 25 July 2019 (UTC)