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I think there may be some NPOV issues here as the only reference source is the mans own website Petebutt ( talk) 22:21, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Is there any good reason to put everything in just one sentence?
this is torture.
and yes this page reads like advertisement. I hope Marc Seifer didnt pay for this. 77.64.141.24 ( talk) 19:07, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
If Seifer is an expert on Tesla then his writings could be used as a citation on Tesla If Seofer is a handwriting expert than his writings or appearances could be used as a citation on that subject. This entry has correctly been nominated on deletion. If it is not deleted it will need to be reduced to what can be verified by primary sources in fact, and no more.
In this entry we have a resume of Seifer which is of interest to Seifer, and this represents a major misuse of Wikipeida.
--Lfrankblam 20:24, 24 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lfrankbalm ( talk • contribs)
Unsourced content is subject to removal. Insignificant details likewise. Puffery has got to go. I suppose the best way to go is first tag all the unsourced content then come back and cut it. The article already has a general tag/header. - - MrBill3 ( talk) 10:53, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
"He has a B.S. from the University of Rhode Island, five semesters of graphology from New School University, an M.A. from the University of Chicago and a Ph.D. from Saybrook Institute. With over 35 years experience as a handwriting expert including a decade of work for the Fraud Unit of the Rhode Island Attorney General’s Office, he has lectured before the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners and testified in civil, criminal, state superior and federal court. Dr. Seifer is also a writer and visiting lecturer in Psychology at Roger Williams University." [1] -- Lfrankblam ( talk) 03:21, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
This unfortunately is unusable as a self published source.-- Lfrankblam ( talk) 03:57, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
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The Marc Seifer entry is now concise, fully cited - with quality citations, what he is known for is emphasis without alliteration, and most of all it meets the standard of NPOV. Editing this article now assures me that this person is notable, which simply was not visible before all the puffery. When you say less it can mean more..
So what is missing;
1) I am very sure that Seifer is a PHD, and that he has a PHD in Psychology; to include this credential would require a source that could be cited. Unfortunately, the link from R&W did not include any credentials.
2) I would like to see a credential relating to handwriting analysis.-- Lfrankblam ( talk) 03:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
3) I would like to see ISBN's on all the major works-- Lfrankblam ( talk) 04:09, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
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Seifer has presented papers at Tesla conferences, and was billed as Dr Seifer. Why is it not mentioned here? Is it a genuine doctorate and, even if not awarded by a degree-mill, was it awarded by a reputable body and not by an alternative-health or quasi-religious organization? What indeed are his qualifications in graphology: graphologists are not the same thing as handwriting experts and the former are generally viewed as being part of the 'woo' industry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.2.156.175 ( talk) 12:13, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
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I think there may be some NPOV issues here as the only reference source is the mans own website Petebutt ( talk) 22:21, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Is there any good reason to put everything in just one sentence?
this is torture.
and yes this page reads like advertisement. I hope Marc Seifer didnt pay for this. 77.64.141.24 ( talk) 19:07, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
If Seifer is an expert on Tesla then his writings could be used as a citation on Tesla If Seofer is a handwriting expert than his writings or appearances could be used as a citation on that subject. This entry has correctly been nominated on deletion. If it is not deleted it will need to be reduced to what can be verified by primary sources in fact, and no more.
In this entry we have a resume of Seifer which is of interest to Seifer, and this represents a major misuse of Wikipeida.
--Lfrankblam 20:24, 24 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lfrankbalm ( talk • contribs)
Unsourced content is subject to removal. Insignificant details likewise. Puffery has got to go. I suppose the best way to go is first tag all the unsourced content then come back and cut it. The article already has a general tag/header. - - MrBill3 ( talk) 10:53, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
"He has a B.S. from the University of Rhode Island, five semesters of graphology from New School University, an M.A. from the University of Chicago and a Ph.D. from Saybrook Institute. With over 35 years experience as a handwriting expert including a decade of work for the Fraud Unit of the Rhode Island Attorney General’s Office, he has lectured before the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners and testified in civil, criminal, state superior and federal court. Dr. Seifer is also a writer and visiting lecturer in Psychology at Roger Williams University." [1] -- Lfrankblam ( talk) 03:21, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
This unfortunately is unusable as a self published source.-- Lfrankblam ( talk) 03:57, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
References
The Marc Seifer entry is now concise, fully cited - with quality citations, what he is known for is emphasis without alliteration, and most of all it meets the standard of NPOV. Editing this article now assures me that this person is notable, which simply was not visible before all the puffery. When you say less it can mean more..
So what is missing;
1) I am very sure that Seifer is a PHD, and that he has a PHD in Psychology; to include this credential would require a source that could be cited. Unfortunately, the link from R&W did not include any credentials.
2) I would like to see a credential relating to handwriting analysis.-- Lfrankblam ( talk) 03:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
3) I would like to see ISBN's on all the major works-- Lfrankblam ( talk) 04:09, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
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Seifer has presented papers at Tesla conferences, and was billed as Dr Seifer. Why is it not mentioned here? Is it a genuine doctorate and, even if not awarded by a degree-mill, was it awarded by a reputable body and not by an alternative-health or quasi-religious organization? What indeed are his qualifications in graphology: graphologists are not the same thing as handwriting experts and the former are generally viewed as being part of the 'woo' industry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.2.156.175 ( talk) 12:13, 8 June 2020 (UTC)