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Is this NPOV? -- Zoe
Should we be listing the names and ages of the abductees? Isn't that a violation of the COPPA? -- Gamera2 02:46, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Aren't they all over 18 now? It's not illegal to discuss what happened to people who are now adults when they were not adults. At least one of the two survivors has also given a media interview as well. -- Delirium 06:23, Mar 2, 2004 (UTC)
Yeah, it's a difficult issue, but I think in a case like this where the information is public knowledge, it wouldn't really make sense to conceal it. The court case specifically charges him with killing these girls by name, for example, while in cases where privacy is a overbearing concern, typically the names of the victims aren't released to the press, or the press is asked not to print them, which I don't think has happened here. The fact that one of the victims has given media interviews, and the parents have held public fund-raising dinners and gone on television, indicates that privacy isn't a major issue in this particular case as well (as far as I can tell). -- Delirium 01:57, Mar 5, 2004 (UTC)
This case happened in Belgium. COPPA is a United States law with no applicability to Belgian citizens. I don't believe it would apply even if a victim possessed United States citizenship if the crime happened in a place where the United States has no legal jurisdiction, such as Belgium.--unsigned
COPPA has nothing to do with this. COPPA is about: 1.) preventing deceptive methods of collecting information from minors online, including making clear to parents/guardians how & what information is collected, how it's used and providing the collected information to parents on request; 2.) safeguarding the collected information to protect its security/confidentiality/integrity. It says nothing about re-publicizing information about minors not collected online. The purpose of COPPA is to make it safe for children to participate in online websites/forums/chatrooms. This has absolutely no bearing on the information in this article, even if the children were still children.
If there is a missing girl and their name and age are broadcasted on TV, you don't need to get parental permission in order to repost that information on a website. Likewise, COPPA says nothing about whether an internet journalist can write a minor's name and age when reporting on a crime. Unless you get that information from the child themself via an IM chat/email/website, COPPA doesn't come into play. In the U.S. certain states have passed laws that forbid the release of the names of minors who were the victims of rape. However, even in these cases the supreme court has ultimately decided that the violated the constitution. --subversive.sound 12:52, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
This article has too many section headers, and the reason for that is that the same information is repeated over and over again. Examples of this include:
This constant repetition makes the article extremely confusing and way too long. Biblioklept ( talk) 23:38, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Due to the availability of better pictures more in line with the general style of depicting people like this on Wikipedia, I think it's a little odd that we aren't using at least his mugshot. I would propose that we use that instead of the pencil sketch; I wouldn't be against using it elsewhere in the article, but using it as the title picture seems wrong. Golden Oreole ( talk) 04:43, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
That seems leading to say the least Blex-max ( talk) 20:30, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
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Is this NPOV? -- Zoe
Should we be listing the names and ages of the abductees? Isn't that a violation of the COPPA? -- Gamera2 02:46, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Aren't they all over 18 now? It's not illegal to discuss what happened to people who are now adults when they were not adults. At least one of the two survivors has also given a media interview as well. -- Delirium 06:23, Mar 2, 2004 (UTC)
Yeah, it's a difficult issue, but I think in a case like this where the information is public knowledge, it wouldn't really make sense to conceal it. The court case specifically charges him with killing these girls by name, for example, while in cases where privacy is a overbearing concern, typically the names of the victims aren't released to the press, or the press is asked not to print them, which I don't think has happened here. The fact that one of the victims has given media interviews, and the parents have held public fund-raising dinners and gone on television, indicates that privacy isn't a major issue in this particular case as well (as far as I can tell). -- Delirium 01:57, Mar 5, 2004 (UTC)
This case happened in Belgium. COPPA is a United States law with no applicability to Belgian citizens. I don't believe it would apply even if a victim possessed United States citizenship if the crime happened in a place where the United States has no legal jurisdiction, such as Belgium.--unsigned
COPPA has nothing to do with this. COPPA is about: 1.) preventing deceptive methods of collecting information from minors online, including making clear to parents/guardians how & what information is collected, how it's used and providing the collected information to parents on request; 2.) safeguarding the collected information to protect its security/confidentiality/integrity. It says nothing about re-publicizing information about minors not collected online. The purpose of COPPA is to make it safe for children to participate in online websites/forums/chatrooms. This has absolutely no bearing on the information in this article, even if the children were still children.
If there is a missing girl and their name and age are broadcasted on TV, you don't need to get parental permission in order to repost that information on a website. Likewise, COPPA says nothing about whether an internet journalist can write a minor's name and age when reporting on a crime. Unless you get that information from the child themself via an IM chat/email/website, COPPA doesn't come into play. In the U.S. certain states have passed laws that forbid the release of the names of minors who were the victims of rape. However, even in these cases the supreme court has ultimately decided that the violated the constitution. --subversive.sound 12:52, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
This article has too many section headers, and the reason for that is that the same information is repeated over and over again. Examples of this include:
This constant repetition makes the article extremely confusing and way too long. Biblioklept ( talk) 23:38, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Due to the availability of better pictures more in line with the general style of depicting people like this on Wikipedia, I think it's a little odd that we aren't using at least his mugshot. I would propose that we use that instead of the pencil sketch; I wouldn't be against using it elsewhere in the article, but using it as the title picture seems wrong. Golden Oreole ( talk) 04:43, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
That seems leading to say the least Blex-max ( talk) 20:30, 13 June 2024 (UTC)