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no, the others were right; this is a highly North-America-centric article. I quote 'According to Native American oral tradition, maple syrup and maple sugar was being made before recorded history.' Personally, I had no idea that Native American tradition had survived since thousands of years BC. Surely the knowledge won't have carried that far between civilsations. If it did than this is incredible! Please, if you are an American talking about history, talk about global recorded history, not American. The fact that your history only goes back a few centuries is not my problem. Wikipedia is international. Someone please change this to 'before recorded North American history.'
Could someone also change 'candy' to a more proffessional and widely-understood term such as confectionery, because not everyone in the world is American, and thus not everyone will understand.
Also, could someone please tell me why everything in America is 'The National'? e.g the National Security Agency? National Aeronautics and Space Administration? which Nation? Iraq? Russia? I mean imagine if the ESA (European Space Agency) was called the Continental Space Agency. Which continent? For the love of God, you aren't the only nation, wake up America. Your economy is dying by the way.
Rant over. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghhyrd ( talk • contribs) 19:14, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
As opposed to England being the Royal Navy, Royal Air Force? More then one royal family in the world isn't there? It is called that way because everyone in America can recognize it as belonging to our nation (the only one that matters to a lot of the people of the US). 65.167.146.130 ( talk) 20:51, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
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- National Agricultural Statistics Service: Specialty Crops - Production data for U.S. agricultural commodities, including maple syrup. (Highlight "Maple Syrup" and click "Search".)
Although it does require further action once you navigate to it, which can't easily be avoided, I don't see how it fails WP:EL and the data (gallons production per year and ranking of states) seems highly relevant. The source is generally considered reliable under WP:V, as it's the U.S. Department of Agriculture. So I'm wondering what exactly the problem with this external is.-- Doug.( talk • contribs) 01:43, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Apparently, there is now syrup production from the Manitoba Maple, on the Canadian Prairies. http://www.statcan.ca/english/research/96-328-MIE/2004032/96-328-MIE2004032.pdf Grandma Roses ( talk) 11:02, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia is very US-centric in general. And as I agree with this, I've taken the liberty to mention the US second in all points of interest in the article where it was mentioned before Canada, without removing or altering any of the factual information. Since Canada produces more than 80% of the world's maple syrup, and since Quebec alone produces more maple syrup than all of the US combined, by logic the foremost producer should to be given precedence. -- Bentonia School ( talk) 13:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Maple syrup density is measured in Brix (which is percent divolved solids, principally sugar), see here: http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/crops/facts/08-003.htm
The syrup density stated as 32 kg/m3 must be wrong. The density of 1m3 of water is 1000kg/m3 and the density of 1m3 of maple syrup is around 1333 kg/m3. This figure is calculated from this article: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=115 which states that 2 teaspoons (=10ml) of syrup weigh 13.33g. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Placebo2000 ( talk • contribs) 08:49, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
I agree that Wikipedia should not say that we can pick up a Ken doll for $30. That is a retail type item. However, maple syrup, along with a bunch of other agricultural products, are "commodities." There has to be some business reason for people to be engaging in this business. While it would not be appropriate to say in an item about a mall or retail store how much a Ken doll retails for, it might be very germane in an article about Mattel or even K-B toy store maybe, to discuss the markup range on various items.
It is appropriate to suggest that management has a business plan. In this case, there is no "big" business involved, but it implies a whole range of farmers, mostly small farmers, engaged in the production of products from maple syrup. It is germane IMO. It may belong in an "economics" section. Since it was identified as a uniquely US product (Canadians are involved as well), it shouldn't be too many problems with currency. Student7 ( talk) 22:28, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
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This is the archive of discussions from the talk:maple syrup page for 2008 |
no, the others were right; this is a highly North-America-centric article. I quote 'According to Native American oral tradition, maple syrup and maple sugar was being made before recorded history.' Personally, I had no idea that Native American tradition had survived since thousands of years BC. Surely the knowledge won't have carried that far between civilsations. If it did than this is incredible! Please, if you are an American talking about history, talk about global recorded history, not American. The fact that your history only goes back a few centuries is not my problem. Wikipedia is international. Someone please change this to 'before recorded North American history.'
Could someone also change 'candy' to a more proffessional and widely-understood term such as confectionery, because not everyone in the world is American, and thus not everyone will understand.
Also, could someone please tell me why everything in America is 'The National'? e.g the National Security Agency? National Aeronautics and Space Administration? which Nation? Iraq? Russia? I mean imagine if the ESA (European Space Agency) was called the Continental Space Agency. Which continent? For the love of God, you aren't the only nation, wake up America. Your economy is dying by the way.
Rant over. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghhyrd ( talk • contribs) 19:14, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
As opposed to England being the Royal Navy, Royal Air Force? More then one royal family in the world isn't there? It is called that way because everyone in America can recognize it as belonging to our nation (the only one that matters to a lot of the people of the US). 65.167.146.130 ( talk) 20:51, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
The following was removed at this diff:
- National Agricultural Statistics Service: Specialty Crops - Production data for U.S. agricultural commodities, including maple syrup. (Highlight "Maple Syrup" and click "Search".)
Although it does require further action once you navigate to it, which can't easily be avoided, I don't see how it fails WP:EL and the data (gallons production per year and ranking of states) seems highly relevant. The source is generally considered reliable under WP:V, as it's the U.S. Department of Agriculture. So I'm wondering what exactly the problem with this external is.-- Doug.( talk • contribs) 01:43, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Apparently, there is now syrup production from the Manitoba Maple, on the Canadian Prairies. http://www.statcan.ca/english/research/96-328-MIE/2004032/96-328-MIE2004032.pdf Grandma Roses ( talk) 11:02, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia is very US-centric in general. And as I agree with this, I've taken the liberty to mention the US second in all points of interest in the article where it was mentioned before Canada, without removing or altering any of the factual information. Since Canada produces more than 80% of the world's maple syrup, and since Quebec alone produces more maple syrup than all of the US combined, by logic the foremost producer should to be given precedence. -- Bentonia School ( talk) 13:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Maple syrup density is measured in Brix (which is percent divolved solids, principally sugar), see here: http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/crops/facts/08-003.htm
The syrup density stated as 32 kg/m3 must be wrong. The density of 1m3 of water is 1000kg/m3 and the density of 1m3 of maple syrup is around 1333 kg/m3. This figure is calculated from this article: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=115 which states that 2 teaspoons (=10ml) of syrup weigh 13.33g. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Placebo2000 ( talk • contribs) 08:49, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
I agree that Wikipedia should not say that we can pick up a Ken doll for $30. That is a retail type item. However, maple syrup, along with a bunch of other agricultural products, are "commodities." There has to be some business reason for people to be engaging in this business. While it would not be appropriate to say in an item about a mall or retail store how much a Ken doll retails for, it might be very germane in an article about Mattel or even K-B toy store maybe, to discuss the markup range on various items.
It is appropriate to suggest that management has a business plan. In this case, there is no "big" business involved, but it implies a whole range of farmers, mostly small farmers, engaged in the production of products from maple syrup. It is germane IMO. It may belong in an "economics" section. Since it was identified as a uniquely US product (Canadians are involved as well), it shouldn't be too many problems with currency. Student7 ( talk) 22:28, 21 November 2008 (UTC)