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The article says "The Isle of Man pound is not sterling", but http://www.isleofman.com/tourisminfo/faqs/ and http://www.douglas.org.im/Spot.asp both say it is sterling. Who is right?
The intro to the article is not ideal. The article is titled "Manx pound", and yet the first sentence is "The pound sterling[1] is the currency of the Isle of Man." So what is the Manx pound then? Ideally the article should begin "The Manx pound is... <whatever it is>". Matt 21:49, 23 July 2006 (UTC).
I don't think it is part of the Pound Sterling. See this Freedom of Information request response from the Bank for more information: http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/24900/response/65167/attach/3/Services%209347205%201.PDF.pdf
Banknotes issued on the IOM 'do not form part of the currency base of the UK's sterling currency'. There are no restrictions on the amount of currency which can be issued by the IOM government, no requirement to back it with deposits at the BOE and no obligation on the part of the UK govt to underwrite the notes issued.
The IMP seems to exist in a bit of a legislative black hole, which is I suppose what you would expect of an ancient arrangement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.131.161 ( talk) 15:26, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
The article currently says "The coins show Elizabeth II with crown as the cost of removing it would have been prohibitive according to The Treasury". Is this really correct? It sounds like a rather implausible reason to me. Matt 19:48, 31 August 2006 (UTC).
The help of a subject matter expert is requested.
I've been wikifying this article - tying in links, etc., - and doing some general cleanup. I've noted two issues with the paragraph about the George III coin issue of 1786:
Since I'm not certain of the facts on either of these two points, I left them intact, but noted them with wiki comments inside the text. -- Eliyahu S Talk 00:10, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
It seems to me that this article is no longer a stub, and that the {{ money-stub}} should be removed. What do others think? -- Eliyahu S Talk 01:28, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
This article is almost ready to go to GA I think. The intro needs expansion, and inline refs added. I'm goin to add it to Wikipedia:Numismatic Collaboration of the Month to see if we can get more exposure for it. Jo e I 23:49, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Mauls, I'm the one who edited your 'Sans Danger' reference out. I've specialized in the early Manx coinage for years and have never come across this claim before. My guess is that you've repeated it from this online transcription of A.W. Moore's 1900 History of the Isle Of Man without understanding that the '[sic]' there refers to an error in the text, not an error on any coinage. No other reference mentions "Danger", because it was just a typo, not a mistake on any coinage. If you still doubt me, here are photos of the 1709 coinage, clearly showing the CHanger. See Plate 1, left side, center.
Seems like a big cost to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.77.68.33 ( talk) 09:04, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
The Isle of Man is in currency union with the United Kingdom, and the Manx pound is not a separate currency but is a local issue of coins and banknotes denominated in pounds sterling, [1] in a similar way to the banknotes issued in Scotland and Northern Ireland (see Sterling banknotes). It can be exchanged at par with other sterling coinage and notes (see also Sterling zone). The Isle of Man Treasury states that the locally issued currency, United Kingdom coinage and Bank of England notes are all legal tender within the island.
For this reason, ISO 4217 does not include a separate currency code for the Manx pound, but where a distinct code is desired IMP is generally used. [2]
UK notes and coins are generally accepted in the Isle of Man. Although there is no legal impediment, Manx notes and coins are generally not accepted in the United Kingdom, and travellers are advised to exchange them before leaving the island. The Manx coins do, however, sometimes creep into general UK circulation as they have identical size and shape to the corresponding UK coins. Many banks and Bureaux de Change in the UK will convert Manx notes to British notes at no cost. To assist those travelling, the ATM machines at the Sea Terminal, Douglas, and at Isle of Man Airport both issue English notes only.
-- Garigolf Talk 13.25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
The Isle of Man Pound is NOT sterling and does not claim to be anything other than the "pound". There is no promise to repay other than that of the Isle of Man Treasury. It IS the currency of the Isle of Man and shoppers will well know that they can pay with GBP Sterling but seldom receive it back in change. Whilst the Manx accept all UK and Channel Islands pound currencies (and often give it out in change) THE COMMON EVERY DAY CURRENCY IS THE MANX POUND (IMP) When talking of a separate country (which the Isle of Man is) there is no "basically" or choice as to how one regards that country and the Manx "CROWN" dependence for protection and worldwide representation is secondary to this fact.
De juris facts are not "regardable". They are facts and as stated. -- Garigolf Talk 13.35, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
References
There have been perennial problems with the opening to this article. Here are the options as I see them:
1. If there is an entity whose full and correct name is the Manx pound then the article should be thus titled and the introductory definition should read "The Manx pound is...."
2. If there isn't an entity whose full and correct name is the Manx pound, but this article is simply about the use of the pound in the Isle of Man, then the article should be titled Pound (Isle of Man), or perhaps Isle of Man currency, or whatever seems best.
The combination of article title Manx pound and introductory definition "The pound is ..." does not work. The definition does not actually define what the article purports to be about. Matt 14:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC).
I think that's a rather neat and appropriate solution. Mauls ( talk) 00:10, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
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The 2017 Manx pound coin differs from the description of the older decimal coins given in the article. The edge is fully milled and the Queen's portrait is a different design, including a necklace. It is, of course, round and not bimetallic.
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The article says "The Isle of Man pound is not sterling", but http://www.isleofman.com/tourisminfo/faqs/ and http://www.douglas.org.im/Spot.asp both say it is sterling. Who is right?
The intro to the article is not ideal. The article is titled "Manx pound", and yet the first sentence is "The pound sterling[1] is the currency of the Isle of Man." So what is the Manx pound then? Ideally the article should begin "The Manx pound is... <whatever it is>". Matt 21:49, 23 July 2006 (UTC).
I don't think it is part of the Pound Sterling. See this Freedom of Information request response from the Bank for more information: http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/24900/response/65167/attach/3/Services%209347205%201.PDF.pdf
Banknotes issued on the IOM 'do not form part of the currency base of the UK's sterling currency'. There are no restrictions on the amount of currency which can be issued by the IOM government, no requirement to back it with deposits at the BOE and no obligation on the part of the UK govt to underwrite the notes issued.
The IMP seems to exist in a bit of a legislative black hole, which is I suppose what you would expect of an ancient arrangement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.131.161 ( talk) 15:26, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
The article currently says "The coins show Elizabeth II with crown as the cost of removing it would have been prohibitive according to The Treasury". Is this really correct? It sounds like a rather implausible reason to me. Matt 19:48, 31 August 2006 (UTC).
The help of a subject matter expert is requested.
I've been wikifying this article - tying in links, etc., - and doing some general cleanup. I've noted two issues with the paragraph about the George III coin issue of 1786:
Since I'm not certain of the facts on either of these two points, I left them intact, but noted them with wiki comments inside the text. -- Eliyahu S Talk 00:10, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
It seems to me that this article is no longer a stub, and that the {{ money-stub}} should be removed. What do others think? -- Eliyahu S Talk 01:28, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
This article is almost ready to go to GA I think. The intro needs expansion, and inline refs added. I'm goin to add it to Wikipedia:Numismatic Collaboration of the Month to see if we can get more exposure for it. Jo e I 23:49, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Mauls, I'm the one who edited your 'Sans Danger' reference out. I've specialized in the early Manx coinage for years and have never come across this claim before. My guess is that you've repeated it from this online transcription of A.W. Moore's 1900 History of the Isle Of Man without understanding that the '[sic]' there refers to an error in the text, not an error on any coinage. No other reference mentions "Danger", because it was just a typo, not a mistake on any coinage. If you still doubt me, here are photos of the 1709 coinage, clearly showing the CHanger. See Plate 1, left side, center.
Seems like a big cost to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.77.68.33 ( talk) 09:04, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
The Isle of Man is in currency union with the United Kingdom, and the Manx pound is not a separate currency but is a local issue of coins and banknotes denominated in pounds sterling, [1] in a similar way to the banknotes issued in Scotland and Northern Ireland (see Sterling banknotes). It can be exchanged at par with other sterling coinage and notes (see also Sterling zone). The Isle of Man Treasury states that the locally issued currency, United Kingdom coinage and Bank of England notes are all legal tender within the island.
For this reason, ISO 4217 does not include a separate currency code for the Manx pound, but where a distinct code is desired IMP is generally used. [2]
UK notes and coins are generally accepted in the Isle of Man. Although there is no legal impediment, Manx notes and coins are generally not accepted in the United Kingdom, and travellers are advised to exchange them before leaving the island. The Manx coins do, however, sometimes creep into general UK circulation as they have identical size and shape to the corresponding UK coins. Many banks and Bureaux de Change in the UK will convert Manx notes to British notes at no cost. To assist those travelling, the ATM machines at the Sea Terminal, Douglas, and at Isle of Man Airport both issue English notes only.
-- Garigolf Talk 13.25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
The Isle of Man Pound is NOT sterling and does not claim to be anything other than the "pound". There is no promise to repay other than that of the Isle of Man Treasury. It IS the currency of the Isle of Man and shoppers will well know that they can pay with GBP Sterling but seldom receive it back in change. Whilst the Manx accept all UK and Channel Islands pound currencies (and often give it out in change) THE COMMON EVERY DAY CURRENCY IS THE MANX POUND (IMP) When talking of a separate country (which the Isle of Man is) there is no "basically" or choice as to how one regards that country and the Manx "CROWN" dependence for protection and worldwide representation is secondary to this fact.
De juris facts are not "regardable". They are facts and as stated. -- Garigolf Talk 13.35, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
References
There have been perennial problems with the opening to this article. Here are the options as I see them:
1. If there is an entity whose full and correct name is the Manx pound then the article should be thus titled and the introductory definition should read "The Manx pound is...."
2. If there isn't an entity whose full and correct name is the Manx pound, but this article is simply about the use of the pound in the Isle of Man, then the article should be titled Pound (Isle of Man), or perhaps Isle of Man currency, or whatever seems best.
The combination of article title Manx pound and introductory definition "The pound is ..." does not work. The definition does not actually define what the article purports to be about. Matt 14:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC).
I think that's a rather neat and appropriate solution. Mauls ( talk) 00:10, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
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This sounds like a complete hoax IMO. Here's what the back side of the note looks like. - 93.106.16.35 ( talk) 23:48, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
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The 2017 Manx pound coin differs from the description of the older decimal coins given in the article. The edge is fully milled and the Queen's portrait is a different design, including a necklace. It is, of course, round and not bimetallic.
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