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This article has come a long way from my first visit and subsequent edits to it. I don't wish to appear to be "tooting my own horn" or again, be accused of "trying to sell kittens" by adding a comment on this article. However, I feel I have something of value to add and would like to offer my years of experience as a CFA registered Manx breeder. Most everything I knew about editing and posting here I've forgotten, so please bear with me as I try to post a comment about this article. I think the picture's displayed in the article that represent the Manx cat could be more diverse. With all due respect, the cats pictured in the article seem to resemble more Japanese Bobtail cats, than Manx.
http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/japanese.html
Japanese Bobtail kittens are never born tailless, neither are they born with full tails. Their tails are clearly visible, composed of one or more curves, angles, or kinks or any combination thereof. The genetic factor that has created the Japanese Bobtail is completely different from the Manx. Unlike the Manx, the two breeds are not related in any way. Not only are their tails different, but their body types are both completely opposite.
Manx cats have varying tail lengths, but are best known for being completely tailless. I think examples of the varying tail lengths and breeds characteristics should be shown. I can provide as many pictures as needed to post to this article that represents what an actual Manx cat is known and described to look like.
http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/manx.html
The Manx tailless gene is dominant, kittens tails that inherit it can vary from a full tail, a short tail, a rise (known as a “rumpy riser”), or no tail (“rumpies”) at all. Aside from being tailless, the Manx is also known for its robust and rounded appearance. This breed is described as being drawn with a series of circles. It has a very round head and rounded cheeks that give it a jowly appearance; this is seen even more so in the male cat than in the female.
I'd like to point out for those who don't know, in the interest of education, Manx cats are best "known" for being tailess, not every tailless or semi tailed cat is a Manx cat. The breed is not based on a "look" or "act", although, these are found most endearing and desirable in the breed. Manx cats have origin to the Isle of Man, much like humans have origin to certain countries to claim that nationality. Could you imagine what the world would be like if everyone was told they were a nationality based on how they acted or looked?
Please feel free to visit my User page or contact me as needed for the picture's to post to this site. Karello 00:19, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
The lead mentions they are notable for being skilled hunters but doesn't say anything more about this. Out of all of the cats I've ever had, the Manx is, indeed, an incredible hunter, and I don't recall seeing this type of behavior with any other cat. They also seem to be friendlier than other breeds. In any case, this article could use some expansion. Viriditas ( talk) 15:38, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
mine is like that to sometimes —Preceding unsigned comment added by Feral hydra ( talk • contribs) 22:08, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
"They are called stubbin in the Manx language." I'm skeptical. Manx is a branch of Gaelic. Stubbin seems like an English word that English-speakers would apply to a stub-tailed animal. — Tamfang ( talk) 04:09, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Could someone who has/owns a good picture of a Manx rumpy please upload it for use as the main picture for the Info box. The Manx is best known for its tailless nature so a picture of one even with a short tail is misleading and distracting. I did check all the ones on file in Wikipedia/Wikimedia and unfortunately none of them are really good enough. Dabbler ( talk) 13:07, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Someone pasted this into the "External links" section, but it isn't appropriate there (it's not a major resource about Manx cats, the subject of this article, but about a sub-sub-topic, a specific health issue in the health section):
It should be checked for reliability, and if good should be used inline per WP:CITE as a source for specific facts. This page has massive reliable sourcing issues, and the last thing it needs is more trivia links; it's needs source citations. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒〈°⌊°〉 Contribs. 00:30, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
This source cites its own sources, and we can track down many of those it uses, e.g. on genetics, to improve this article: "ACF Breeding Policy for the Manx and Cymric Cat" (PDF). ACF.asn.au. Australian Cat Federation. Retrieved July 10, 2014. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 10:11, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
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kayt cuttagh lit. 'bob-tailed cat' This is very well said I had my stubby tailed cats tested at the UCLA animal lab and the results came back as akin to Manx. Although the origin of the breed from the Isle of man cannot be denied the term Manx could be viewed as descriptive of most 'bob-tailed' breeds and probably should. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Manx_cat&action=edit§ion=new# — Preceding unsigned comment added by R Dailey0001 ( talk • contribs) 17:59, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
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Stimpy from Ren & Stimpy is a manx cat 14.203.83.38 ( talk) 22:00, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Certain parts of the history section are word for word copies of the GCCF article on the Manx cat. The only reason I say potential is because this content dates back to at least 10 years whilst the GCCF article only appears in 2014 to the best of my ability searching the wayback machine. https://web.archive.org/web/20141031024514/http://www.gccfcats.org/breeds/manx.html
I'm not sure whether the GCCF plagiarised Wikipedia (somewhat unlikely) or the content is plagiarised from the GCCF. It could also be the GCCF took that content from the British Manx Cat Club and so did the original editor for those claims.
Seeing if the content was added by one or different editors would also help resolve the issue as it's highly unlikely for two different users to have plagiarised different parts of the same website. I'll check this myself tomorrow if no one else has done so. Traumnovelle ( talk) 09:47, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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This article has come a long way from my first visit and subsequent edits to it. I don't wish to appear to be "tooting my own horn" or again, be accused of "trying to sell kittens" by adding a comment on this article. However, I feel I have something of value to add and would like to offer my years of experience as a CFA registered Manx breeder. Most everything I knew about editing and posting here I've forgotten, so please bear with me as I try to post a comment about this article. I think the picture's displayed in the article that represent the Manx cat could be more diverse. With all due respect, the cats pictured in the article seem to resemble more Japanese Bobtail cats, than Manx.
http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/japanese.html
Japanese Bobtail kittens are never born tailless, neither are they born with full tails. Their tails are clearly visible, composed of one or more curves, angles, or kinks or any combination thereof. The genetic factor that has created the Japanese Bobtail is completely different from the Manx. Unlike the Manx, the two breeds are not related in any way. Not only are their tails different, but their body types are both completely opposite.
Manx cats have varying tail lengths, but are best known for being completely tailless. I think examples of the varying tail lengths and breeds characteristics should be shown. I can provide as many pictures as needed to post to this article that represents what an actual Manx cat is known and described to look like.
http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/manx.html
The Manx tailless gene is dominant, kittens tails that inherit it can vary from a full tail, a short tail, a rise (known as a “rumpy riser”), or no tail (“rumpies”) at all. Aside from being tailless, the Manx is also known for its robust and rounded appearance. This breed is described as being drawn with a series of circles. It has a very round head and rounded cheeks that give it a jowly appearance; this is seen even more so in the male cat than in the female.
I'd like to point out for those who don't know, in the interest of education, Manx cats are best "known" for being tailess, not every tailless or semi tailed cat is a Manx cat. The breed is not based on a "look" or "act", although, these are found most endearing and desirable in the breed. Manx cats have origin to the Isle of Man, much like humans have origin to certain countries to claim that nationality. Could you imagine what the world would be like if everyone was told they were a nationality based on how they acted or looked?
Please feel free to visit my User page or contact me as needed for the picture's to post to this site. Karello 00:19, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
The lead mentions they are notable for being skilled hunters but doesn't say anything more about this. Out of all of the cats I've ever had, the Manx is, indeed, an incredible hunter, and I don't recall seeing this type of behavior with any other cat. They also seem to be friendlier than other breeds. In any case, this article could use some expansion. Viriditas ( talk) 15:38, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
mine is like that to sometimes —Preceding unsigned comment added by Feral hydra ( talk • contribs) 22:08, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
"They are called stubbin in the Manx language." I'm skeptical. Manx is a branch of Gaelic. Stubbin seems like an English word that English-speakers would apply to a stub-tailed animal. — Tamfang ( talk) 04:09, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Could someone who has/owns a good picture of a Manx rumpy please upload it for use as the main picture for the Info box. The Manx is best known for its tailless nature so a picture of one even with a short tail is misleading and distracting. I did check all the ones on file in Wikipedia/Wikimedia and unfortunately none of them are really good enough. Dabbler ( talk) 13:07, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Someone pasted this into the "External links" section, but it isn't appropriate there (it's not a major resource about Manx cats, the subject of this article, but about a sub-sub-topic, a specific health issue in the health section):
It should be checked for reliability, and if good should be used inline per WP:CITE as a source for specific facts. This page has massive reliable sourcing issues, and the last thing it needs is more trivia links; it's needs source citations. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒〈°⌊°〉 Contribs. 00:30, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
This source cites its own sources, and we can track down many of those it uses, e.g. on genetics, to improve this article: "ACF Breeding Policy for the Manx and Cymric Cat" (PDF). ACF.asn.au. Australian Cat Federation. Retrieved July 10, 2014. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 10:11, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
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kayt cuttagh lit. 'bob-tailed cat' This is very well said I had my stubby tailed cats tested at the UCLA animal lab and the results came back as akin to Manx. Although the origin of the breed from the Isle of man cannot be denied the term Manx could be viewed as descriptive of most 'bob-tailed' breeds and probably should. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Manx_cat&action=edit§ion=new# — Preceding unsigned comment added by R Dailey0001 ( talk • contribs) 17:59, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
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Stimpy from Ren & Stimpy is a manx cat 14.203.83.38 ( talk) 22:00, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Certain parts of the history section are word for word copies of the GCCF article on the Manx cat. The only reason I say potential is because this content dates back to at least 10 years whilst the GCCF article only appears in 2014 to the best of my ability searching the wayback machine. https://web.archive.org/web/20141031024514/http://www.gccfcats.org/breeds/manx.html
I'm not sure whether the GCCF plagiarised Wikipedia (somewhat unlikely) or the content is plagiarised from the GCCF. It could also be the GCCF took that content from the British Manx Cat Club and so did the original editor for those claims.
Seeing if the content was added by one or different editors would also help resolve the issue as it's highly unlikely for two different users to have plagiarised different parts of the same website. I'll check this myself tomorrow if no one else has done so. Traumnovelle ( talk) 09:47, 15 January 2024 (UTC)