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IP editing in January 2023

I have noticed that a series of IP addresses have made changes to Mansfield and other surrounding articles in early 2023. I surmise that these changes have all been made by one individual:

2A02:C7C:56C5:2600:7158:E147:F71C:F7F3

2A02:C7C:56C5:2600:3CB2:9E80:3F42:F050

2A02:C7C:56C5:2600:9962:E6C4:CF0B:9BBF

2A02:C7C:56C5:2600:F9B5:C2B4:3A:9C2C

2A02:C7C:56C5:2600:8CDD:C573:3CE8:D8D

The edit summaries of two consecutive changes assert that this IP editor moved content which they had originally written: "This was originally written by me but fits better into the town centre area rather than the Civic Centre bit." and "This fits in better into the town centre section. This was written by myself.".

This editor did not write this prose originally, it was Rocknrollmancer in this 14 January 2022 change.

I left a message at User talk:2A02:C7C:56C5:2600:8CDD:C573:3CE8:D8D, but now realise it's possible it will not be seen there due to the to the dynamic switching basis of the ISP, so I am repeating the request here:

Can you please explain what you meant by these two edit summary statements attributing the prose to yourself? Thank you. 82.13.47.210 ( talk) 01:20, 13 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Large scale deletion without discussion

DragonofBatley has deleted a whole (sourced) section of 6,729 bytes just 18 minutes after I effected an expansion of the section. Some of this was written a few years ago and involves major (capital) crimes covered by BBC (one of which spawned a television drama), and is not man bites dog tabloidism.

Per WP:BRD I have boldly reverted and invite uninvolved editors to comment. I surmise the deleter is now sufficiently-experienced not to edit war. Assume that I and the other contributors feel there is good reason to include, and that it is wholly relevant to the article.-- 82.13.47.210 ( talk) 20:42, 2 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Your additions aren't appropriate for an encyclopedia article, 82.13.47.210. The heading "Tragic deaths" is a WP:NPOV violation but even if that were fixed, Wikipedia is not a memorial. Some of the other "In the news" content could perhaps be integrated into the history section, but it's not appropriate to have a list of news stories about the town in the format that you've restored. Cordless Larry ( talk) 20:55, 2 August 2023 (UTC) reply
I'd revert it and remove it all. It reads like an obituary DragonofBatley ( talk) 21:19, 2 August 2023 (UTC) reply
removed it until a discussion has been reached. The anon readded after starting a discussion. DragonofBatley ( talk) 21:24, 2 August 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Do not reinstate "Tragic deaths" and Amber Peat — on grounds of WP:NOTNEWS. There are likely hundreds of murders/suicides over the years reported in local news. Wikipedia doesn't record them. The cliff-face collapses — possible inclusion in history or geography section if significant, probably the BGS report and one news source. Murderers, Christopher and Susan Edwards — move to history section, but trim, can be linked to Murders of William and Patricia Wycherley and Landscapers (TV series). Channel 4 worst places — the viewpoint is at one specific point in time, possible inclusion under Cultural section. Do not reinstate section "In the news" because it's a magnet for adding local news content, not suited for Wikipedia. Rupples ( talk) 23:32, 2 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Pictures

Arising from an AN/I discussion (still in progress), I'm substantially restoring the appearance of the article as it was prior to this edit in August 2023 by Devokewater, in which all the images were moved to a gallery at the bottom. The article has since changed—and more images have been added to the gallery—so I'm taking the opportunity to re-examine where best to place what images, and what contextual information is needed in the captions and/or the text. Opening a section for discussion as promised. I plan to resume in a few hours if no one else has either reverted or taken over. Yngvadottir ( talk) 03:54, 18 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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IP editing in January 2023

I have noticed that a series of IP addresses have made changes to Mansfield and other surrounding articles in early 2023. I surmise that these changes have all been made by one individual:

2A02:C7C:56C5:2600:7158:E147:F71C:F7F3

2A02:C7C:56C5:2600:3CB2:9E80:3F42:F050

2A02:C7C:56C5:2600:9962:E6C4:CF0B:9BBF

2A02:C7C:56C5:2600:F9B5:C2B4:3A:9C2C

2A02:C7C:56C5:2600:8CDD:C573:3CE8:D8D

The edit summaries of two consecutive changes assert that this IP editor moved content which they had originally written: "This was originally written by me but fits better into the town centre area rather than the Civic Centre bit." and "This fits in better into the town centre section. This was written by myself.".

This editor did not write this prose originally, it was Rocknrollmancer in this 14 January 2022 change.

I left a message at User talk:2A02:C7C:56C5:2600:8CDD:C573:3CE8:D8D, but now realise it's possible it will not be seen there due to the to the dynamic switching basis of the ISP, so I am repeating the request here:

Can you please explain what you meant by these two edit summary statements attributing the prose to yourself? Thank you. 82.13.47.210 ( talk) 01:20, 13 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Large scale deletion without discussion

DragonofBatley has deleted a whole (sourced) section of 6,729 bytes just 18 minutes after I effected an expansion of the section. Some of this was written a few years ago and involves major (capital) crimes covered by BBC (one of which spawned a television drama), and is not man bites dog tabloidism.

Per WP:BRD I have boldly reverted and invite uninvolved editors to comment. I surmise the deleter is now sufficiently-experienced not to edit war. Assume that I and the other contributors feel there is good reason to include, and that it is wholly relevant to the article.-- 82.13.47.210 ( talk) 20:42, 2 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Your additions aren't appropriate for an encyclopedia article, 82.13.47.210. The heading "Tragic deaths" is a WP:NPOV violation but even if that were fixed, Wikipedia is not a memorial. Some of the other "In the news" content could perhaps be integrated into the history section, but it's not appropriate to have a list of news stories about the town in the format that you've restored. Cordless Larry ( talk) 20:55, 2 August 2023 (UTC) reply
I'd revert it and remove it all. It reads like an obituary DragonofBatley ( talk) 21:19, 2 August 2023 (UTC) reply
removed it until a discussion has been reached. The anon readded after starting a discussion. DragonofBatley ( talk) 21:24, 2 August 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Do not reinstate "Tragic deaths" and Amber Peat — on grounds of WP:NOTNEWS. There are likely hundreds of murders/suicides over the years reported in local news. Wikipedia doesn't record them. The cliff-face collapses — possible inclusion in history or geography section if significant, probably the BGS report and one news source. Murderers, Christopher and Susan Edwards — move to history section, but trim, can be linked to Murders of William and Patricia Wycherley and Landscapers (TV series). Channel 4 worst places — the viewpoint is at one specific point in time, possible inclusion under Cultural section. Do not reinstate section "In the news" because it's a magnet for adding local news content, not suited for Wikipedia. Rupples ( talk) 23:32, 2 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Pictures

Arising from an AN/I discussion (still in progress), I'm substantially restoring the appearance of the article as it was prior to this edit in August 2023 by Devokewater, in which all the images were moved to a gallery at the bottom. The article has since changed—and more images have been added to the gallery—so I'm taking the opportunity to re-examine where best to place what images, and what contextual information is needed in the captions and/or the text. Opening a section for discussion as promised. I plan to resume in a few hours if no one else has either reverted or taken over. Yngvadottir ( talk) 03:54, 18 June 2024 (UTC) reply


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