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And very close paraphrasing from Beware the techniques of the Sociopath from June 2006. I checked in this article's history, and this material wasn't there as early as 2009 version: This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Penbat (talk | contribs) at 20:42, 19 October 2009. It may differ significantly from the current revision. Star767 22:51, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Came across this article today, looked through the talk page, and had to tag it. 3 overused references, including self-help books (implying a particular perspective, agenda, and audience on the issue which is valuable but not sufficient), endless lists, some dubious information and connections ("Psychological conditions of manipulators" is kind of ridiculous as presented). Sections are on how it's done and what's exploited arranged in such a way that only makes sense in terms of self-help.... Happy to help improve when I have more time, but for now maybe people defending the use of the self-help books by talking about how they cite solid sources could just cite those sources directly (even Skinner, for example). -- Rhododendrites ( talk) 18:18, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
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And very close paraphrasing from Beware the techniques of the Sociopath from June 2006. I checked in this article's history, and this material wasn't there as early as 2009 version: This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Penbat (talk | contribs) at 20:42, 19 October 2009. It may differ significantly from the current revision. Star767 22:51, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Came across this article today, looked through the talk page, and had to tag it. 3 overused references, including self-help books (implying a particular perspective, agenda, and audience on the issue which is valuable but not sufficient), endless lists, some dubious information and connections ("Psychological conditions of manipulators" is kind of ridiculous as presented). Sections are on how it's done and what's exploited arranged in such a way that only makes sense in terms of self-help.... Happy to help improve when I have more time, but for now maybe people defending the use of the self-help books by talking about how they cite solid sources could just cite those sources directly (even Skinner, for example). -- Rhododendrites ( talk) 18:18, 16 October 2013 (UTC)