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Mention of this service seems to be split into two parts which should really be merged, but before I think that can happen satisfactorily, the conflict between the two quoted journey times needs to be resolved. Anyone? Guy Hatton 12:14, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
These as far as I know began in 1938, hence the second paragraph is correct.
Later, in the twentieth century, it was the terminus of the The Midland Pullman, which made the journey in four and a quarter hours.
Suggest moving this to after the second paragraph
Later it added more services, a total of nine daily, with two on Sundays, including an overnight Pullman sleeper.
Not sure about this
In LMS days, there were two named expresses the "Palatine" and The "Peaks", the former making the trip in three hours and fifty five minutes, with stops at Chinley, Millers Dale, Matlock, Derby and Leicester.
True, though I cant confirm the timings or stops. If correct it seems curious that it was considerably faster than the Midland Pullman.
See also The Palatine Chevin 13:54, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps the journey times should be removed entirely (at least for the time being)? Having dates for the Palatine and Peaks services is very helpful - for instance, it becomes immediately clear that 'Later, in the twetieth century' should read 'Later in the twentieth century' or perhaps even be replaced entirely by 'Between 1960 and 1966'. Let me see if I can make some sense of this! Guy Hatton 14:35, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I've had a go - I think I've clarified the chronology, but the journey time thing is still in need of confirmation. Also, I'm not clear as to whether the 1960-66 dates refer to the total lifespan of the Midland Pullman service, or whether they refer only the service as operated by specific types of locomotive and/or rolling stock that was previously mentioned. Is 1960 the correct starting date for the Pullman service? If not, some previous material may need to be reinserted in some form, or some new clarification written. Guy Hatton 14:48, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I suggest a new article Manchester Central station be split off from this one.
By the word count, this is the main subject of Manchester Central (Conference Centre) anyway. I've done the first step & created a
redirect page, which may later become a 'real' article. I'll get round to writing something in future (no promises as to the date), but if anybody beats me to it, that's even better. --
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09:01, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Done.-- Jotel ( talk) 13:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
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Mention of this service seems to be split into two parts which should really be merged, but before I think that can happen satisfactorily, the conflict between the two quoted journey times needs to be resolved. Anyone? Guy Hatton 12:14, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
These as far as I know began in 1938, hence the second paragraph is correct.
Later, in the twentieth century, it was the terminus of the The Midland Pullman, which made the journey in four and a quarter hours.
Suggest moving this to after the second paragraph
Later it added more services, a total of nine daily, with two on Sundays, including an overnight Pullman sleeper.
Not sure about this
In LMS days, there were two named expresses the "Palatine" and The "Peaks", the former making the trip in three hours and fifty five minutes, with stops at Chinley, Millers Dale, Matlock, Derby and Leicester.
True, though I cant confirm the timings or stops. If correct it seems curious that it was considerably faster than the Midland Pullman.
See also The Palatine Chevin 13:54, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps the journey times should be removed entirely (at least for the time being)? Having dates for the Palatine and Peaks services is very helpful - for instance, it becomes immediately clear that 'Later, in the twetieth century' should read 'Later in the twentieth century' or perhaps even be replaced entirely by 'Between 1960 and 1966'. Let me see if I can make some sense of this! Guy Hatton 14:35, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I've had a go - I think I've clarified the chronology, but the journey time thing is still in need of confirmation. Also, I'm not clear as to whether the 1960-66 dates refer to the total lifespan of the Midland Pullman service, or whether they refer only the service as operated by specific types of locomotive and/or rolling stock that was previously mentioned. Is 1960 the correct starting date for the Pullman service? If not, some previous material may need to be reinserted in some form, or some new clarification written. Guy Hatton 14:48, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I suggest a new article Manchester Central station be split off from this one.
By the word count, this is the main subject of Manchester Central (Conference Centre) anyway. I've done the first step & created a
redirect page, which may later become a 'real' article. I'll get round to writing something in future (no promises as to the date), but if anybody beats me to it, that's even better. --
Jotel (
talk)
09:01, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Done.-- Jotel ( talk) 13:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
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