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Formerly at Manchester (United Kingdom) Airport. Euwww!
"Several" flights a day?? It's a bit more than that! I've watched planes come in and leave every 90 seconds at times in the summer. I'm taking the reference to EasyJet out, too, as as far as I know they've never operated from Manchester - they use Liverpool airport. Arwel
I decided to shorten the introduction and to place some of the information contained within the article elsewhere, as at present it seems too detailed, specifically for location. However, someone reverted it. What are other users opinions on this? It's worth noting that people from outside the UK may view this article. So would not in the opening statement be better saying something along the lines of Manchester Airport is located in the north west of England, XX miles south-west of Manchester City Centre and then go in to more detail elsewhere in the article? Sheliaval ( talk) 09:36, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone have photos that could be used in the article? In particular in the infobox? Wangi 11:10, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Sorted, the iconic archway named "Gateway to the World/North" has been uploaded and put as the picture, also could we have some information about planespotting and transport info. Medscin 09:19, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Ive updated transport info, all extras would be appreciated Medscin 09:29, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Please do not add facts and figures to the Introduction. The Introduction simply tells the reader what the article is about and leads into the article. Additional information should go under a relevant heading so the reader can find it from Contents. Also, please check that any info you want to add is not already there! BlueValour 19:25, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
The exisiting expansion is sourced here. Please do not add other figures without sourcing to an exact page, not a website home page. BlueValour 17:30, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Sources for latest month/period now added; also source for latest airport long range passenger forecasts. User:Ringwayobserver
Manchester International Airport → Manchester Airport — Manchester Airport has been the official name since 1986 and is the name normally used when referring to the airport. It was previously a DMB and is now a redirect. BlueValour 23:04, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Strongly support above statement that the airport name is correctly 'Manchester Airport' - for example see hard copy 'Draft Master Plan to 2030' published in mid 2006 which uses 'Manchester Airport' throughout. User : Ringwayobserver 01 January 2007.
This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. Vegaswikian 07:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I am correct in thinking that the airport is located closest to Manchester but serves Greater Manchester. If I'm wrong can someone change the infobox. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 06:50, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
This is getting ridiculous. User:Jacklewis99 and many anon IPs has been adding "Chicago-O'Hare" and "New York-JFK" as a destination for Pakistan International Airlines. I just want to clear this once and for all. Can we list "Chicago-O'Hare" and "New York-JFK" as a destination? Bucs2004 22:15, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
yes we can because it is technically karachi to new york/chicago but they add a stop in manchester, meaning passengers at manchester can fly either ways
This is starting to get ridiculous. Bmi does not fly nor that they will flying to Los Angeles. The only flights that I have found between Manchester and Los Angeles are codeshared by United Airlines. So please stop adding Los Angeles as a destination, it will be reverted every time. Thanks! Bucs2004 16:23, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
An Advertisment in the Manchester Evening News promoted flights from Manchester with KLM-Air France to Los Angeles and San Francisco as well as Chicago, New York JFK, Boston and Sanford. What is all that about?!
Abfab27 01:23, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Stop Deleteing Aeroflot-cargo!!! Jesus... how many times did you lot delete Fedex? Oh and lordy Lord and guess what??? Fedex are flying in to MAN. Who would of thought? I had plenty of messages saying it wasnt happening! And it is....
Aeroflot will be from September DC10-40F... Thanks!
v-train... I think again you look a fool... need I still add a source for my again good information re: aeroflot? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.241.54.181 ( talk) 00:49, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
I dont need sources as everything i have added is true!!! Aeroflot are flying in to manchester are they not? YOU FOOL!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.166.19.58 ( talk) 16:46, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm thinking about uploading many pictures to this page. look at my user page user:samslipknot and i have many more yet to be uploaded. If anyone doesn't like them, I don't mind if you want to take the off. I know this page will only take the best.
I have just removed this recently added section, I am not sure that previous airlines are particularly notable. The list could also end up being an extremely long list as the airport has been open 69 years so previous airlines could be in the order of 200 or 300 airlines. MilborneOne 19:16, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
I recently asked for page protection, it has been confirmed by MastCell, this was due to the unprecedented vandalism on the page. Unprotected from 1st October onwards. Onnaghar talk ! ctrb 14:40, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Ultimately, it seems the vandalism is starting again. I'll report it to RFP when next spout of vandalism starts. Onnaghar talk ! ctrb ! er 18:20, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
It seems Dragonair is a disputed cargo operator at MAN but after searching the company websites flight plan it returned direct HKG-MAN routes, and this is definitely direct as I searched the Liverpool and other UK airports options available on the drop-down menu and it states that the cargo comes from Manchester or London-Heathrow. Onnaghar talk ! review 18:23, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I have many sources that do state that PIA fly to Chicago-O'hare and New York-JFK from Manchester.
Firstly: Pakistan International Airlines use Manchester as a Secondary hub and therefore will operate more destinations from Manchester than for instance, London-Heathrow. Secondly: I have checked the Manchester Airport website and that states that PIA do fly to these destinations from MAN. These destinations are also displayed on the Flight Information page. Finally: PIA have a strong presence at MAN, they operate roughtly 6 flight daily.
79.72.202.149 15:29, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Is it still the case that PIA do not have rights to transport new PAX between MAN and JFK? Users keep adding this, but I can't find anywhere that allows tickets to be purchased. Views welcome!
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Rcalvert (
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18:37, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
-- Rcalvert ( talk) 17:18, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Just a note, see here for the peer review. Rudget Contributions 16:43, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
The destinations have just been moved to a sub-pages, was this discussed? MilborneOne 18:18, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
It appears the individual terminal destinations lists articles are going to be deleted, so I will be bold and restore the destinations in this article. -- Oakshade 22:51, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Note: the following section is cut an pasted from
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of destinations served by Manchester Airport Terminal 1 (2nd nomination) and was not posted here by any editor.
(deindent). From the AfD : Delete as worthless trivia, which was my initial argument. But, to amplify: WP:IINFO. The airport itself is notable; a general summary of its destinations (x cities in y countries mainly in z regions) is desirable (and by the way, that already is in the article), but this level of detail is not. We are not a travel manual, but an encyclopedia. General information on the airport is notable; the fact that Pegasus Airlines flies to Bodrum out of its second terminal, or that Flybe goes to Norwich out of its third, is simply not encyclopedic material. Plus, no references, so this could be all made up. One way ticket to Deletion City. Way too much detail - Wikipedia is not a travel guide. *Delete for trying to imitate Expedia! (UTC)
to pick out three of 8. I have no personal goal to remove it from every article. I don't think it is encyclopaedic here on this one article. At least one other editor agrees. There is no longer a consensus to have it here. What happens elsewhere is up to the editors of those articles - not my concern and I will leave it up to them. Regan123 01:22, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
(de-indent) So you're going to ignore comments you don't like? I like to get a wide perspective for a consensus. The consensus has gone here. And I see you haven't dealt with points (2), (4) & (5) still. Regan123 22:50, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Don't know what's going on here, but all airports airticles have destinations. It's very useful and important and i personally come to Wikipedia to specifically look at them. Since when are they not allowed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.38.26.135 ( talk) 21:53, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
I have this article on my watchlist and almost every change made now is the addition of images. This is not a gallery, though maybe we could add one? It appears to be IP addresses adding most of the images, they look nice but they are just filling up the article when it should be expanded with text! └ and-rew┘┌ talk┐ 13:06, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
On my computer it appears that all the desinations on the sub-pages have disappeared! Whe I click on the link its says that no article of this type exsists! Whats going on??????????
86.1.8.218 ( talk)
OK. The above AfD closed as delete all, not merge. So I have moved the lists here to talk about the way forward for them. I am going to suggest several options, though they are not by any means exclusive:
From the AfD these were the primary arguments:
For clarity I wanted these lists deleted after reading the articles. I would prefer inserting the information in option 3 above. These lists are currently unsourced information, which we are not supposed to have on Wikipedia. I have quoted Jimbo above on this matter. It is also stated that there is a community consensus to have this information. I can find no written consensus on this (please feel free to point me in the correct direction for this if there is). Having read WP:Consensus several times over the past few days, I have noted this: Consensus decisions in specific cases are not expected to override consensus on a wider scale very quickly - for instance, a local debate on a Wikiproject does not override the larger consensus behind a policy or guideline. The project cannot decide that for "their" articles, said policy does not apply. It is also - from what I have observed - long standing that AfD is at the top of the community consensus tree (subject to WP:DRV). I asked about this at the village pump and got one definite response stating that you cannot reintroduce the information and one that says it depends. I have also had quoted at me No one person, and no (limited) group of people, can unilaterally declare that community consensus has changed, or that it is fixed and determined. The AfD means we have either two opposing ones or none as to the inclusion of the lists of destinations.
Also from the MOS I have noted Wikipedia:Lists, which again refers to verification as being required.
I want to get a consensus here as to how the editors of Manchester Airport would like to proceed and am happy to agree to the consensus that emerges here. The questions that would seem to arise are: do we want this info in the article? Can we verify it? And following on, in what format do we include it? Regan123 ( talk) 15:19, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Terminal 1
Terminal 2
Terminal 3
The Destination lists were in this article since December of 2004 [5] with not one editor removing it. That an extremely strong indication of community consensus. Every Commercial airport aritlce has a destination list. Less than three weeks ago, a peer review of this article suggested separating the destination lists into separate "daughter articles" for length purposes. Those article were created and the long standing destination lists were separated from this article to those newly formed articles which almost immediately went to AfD. Th The AfDs were about those "daughter articles" The result of the AfDs were to specifically delete those articles, not to remove content from this one.-- Oakshade ( talk) 17:00, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Air Southwest to operate a Manchester - Newquay route. Check the Manchester Airport Website! 79.72.188.192 —Preceding comment was added at 18:47, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Can I just say that you lot are using the manchester airport website too much!!! It is not always up to date, and the destinations aren't always direct routes. For Example- LAX (Los Angeles) is listed as a destination (served by US Airways) on the website. This isn't at all a direct route, but involves catching a completely different service from Philadelphia (where US flies to) Robincross224 ( talk) 01:27, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
I agree. the manchester airport website shows flights being offered at that moment, so for example if you look up
Thomas cook on the airports website, it will list only the flights for that particular time of the season, and especially over winter that could be half of the destinations they actually fly too. the airports website is basically reliable for scheduled traffic but very unreliable for charteded flights —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Danfearn77 (
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16:47, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Am i missing something about this major 'development' as everytime i'm on this article there seems to be an insert about cathay pacific restarting its passenger flights. I knew there CX were to commence a service via moscow back in 2006 but this fell through. Has there been anything reputable written anywhere to suggest a new service in 2008? Danzinin ( talk) 23:37, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Im not sure, it was listed but when it surfaced that Oasis Hong Kong airlines were planning a route to manchester from Hong Kong i think they cancelled that idea. OHKA is low budget airline so CX probably saw no point in providing a service too.
Have Cathay Pacifc restarted their service to Hong Kong ? and have Afriqiyah Airways commenced services to Tripoli from Manchester as stated in the "Future Airlines" column?
Hi there- I've just deleted the Canadian Affair entry (to Toronto), as Canadian Affair is not an airline. It is essentially a travel agent, who advertise and sell Air Transat, Thomas Cook and MyTravel flights to Canada. They have also since been bought by air transat. All three have operated services to YYZ for ages, so what was this entry meant to mean?
Robincross224 ( talk) 01:23, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
The article says in 2006 Manchester had a recorded 234,835 aircraft movements, but elsewhere in WP Busiest_airports_in_the_United_Kingdom_by_total_passenger_traffic the figure for the same year is 229,729. Not a big difference, certainly not big enough to change MAN's rankings, but a discrepancy all the same .... -- Jotel ( talk) 18:40, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Please can this be put back onto the page. I know the destinations are already listed but it is much easier to glance at the future destinations rather than look through all the terminal lists —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danfearn77 ( talk • contribs) 10:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
im not so sure. i have added to this section a few times and all routes are genuine. i agree that they need to be referenced. most of the time it is on manchester airports website under 'new routes'. its just easier to look at. the future airlines i think is interesting but again they need to be referenced —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.110.13.234 ( talk) 16:07, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone know where we could get passenger numbers for the airport for the first few months of this year? i have looked on the CAA website and other places but i cant find any info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danfearn77 ( talk • contribs) 16:38, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
The current source for this information is ais.org.uk This is contrary to WP's policy of not using sources requiring registration. World Aeronautical Database worldaerodata.com is registration-free, but not up to date. Any suggestions for a replacement? -- Jotel ( talk) 13:44, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Right, after seeing this pop up on recent changes far too much, I have protected it due to edit warring. This is not helpful, several parties in this were in flagrant breach of the 3 revert rule. Discuss your issues here. Woody ( talk) 19:15, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
User User:Abfab27 added information on the airport signage being changed, I have reverted it as being non-notable. The user has added it again and I have reverted once more with an invitation to discuss. Comment welcome. MilborneOne ( talk) 19:17, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Following on from recent edits by Dbx54 and BillCJ... I recently changed this paragraph of the lead from:
To:
This is much more concise and much more honest language - the previous version was basically "Manchester Airport is the busiest airport in the United Kingdom, except those busier than it". If anyone wants information on the airports which are busier than it then the linked article gives them it - there is no lead for that in the lead of this article. Thanks/ wangi ( talk) 08:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
The history section mentions two RAF runways being skimpily constructed, and much later talks about the building of the airport's "second runway". This leaves the reader wondering when the second RAF runway fell out of use; indeed, it's also unstated whether in fact either of the RAF runways became the commercial airport's original one runway. Could somebody with knowledge of the history clarify it please? – Kieran T ( talk) 17:34, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
I think Air Canada have ceased direct operations to Manchester, I rung Air Canada to try and book a flight the other day, and they said they don't do direct flights in the summer (Which was the only time they did flights, as they were seasonal) 90.198.250.227 ( talk) 20:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Someone changed the location from Speke to Greater Manchester. Most airports pages state their exact location, rather than a general location e.g. Liverpool states Speke as it's location, Stansted states Uttlesford as it's location, even an airport as large as Barcelona states it location as El Prat de Llobregat. Only the London airports seem to give more general location information. Sheliaval ( talk) 09:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I meant Ringway not Speke. Sheliaval ( talk) 12:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
These guys fly to the azores but there is a technical stop in london. however u can book tickets from manchester to the azores so maybe it should be listed. the airline flies here it would be different if it were a codeshare agreement but its not Danfearn77 ( talk) 16:56, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
This has been added a few times, but if you go0 on their website they state several new destination but manchester is not listed as one of them. has anyone got a source for this info??? Danfearn77 ( talk) 10:39, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
As I and others appear to be removing the minor collison between a Futura and Lufthansa aircraft on the 5 August at least once a day. I have asked those adding to discuss but a number of IP users just keep adding. This event is not really notable or uncommon but as this add/revert cycle has been going on for a few days looking for other opinions. Thank you. MilborneOne ( talk) 19:32, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Can people leave Swiss the destinations alone! Swiss has three destinations from Manchester which are Basel, Geneva and Zurich (which is both operated by Swiss and Helvitic airlines) If you are still unsure check the Swiss website!
I noticed someone added a JFK route from American Airlines and a Las Vegas route form Virgin is this true? I removed this because I could not see any evidance of this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.209.88.81 ( talk • contribs) 19:48, 25 November 2008
Copy/pasted my reply from above thread.
We recently flew from Manchester airport,i dropped off my fellow passengers at departures and went to find the long stay carpark which i had difficulty finding as it was badly sign posted and took a wrong turn up the M56,drove several miles before i could turn round and re entered the airport,drove up to departures again and second time found the long stay car park.I recommend much clearer signage on the roundabout to direct cars in the right direction to prevent people from doing the same as me.It would be nice to hear from you. Regards Peter Grantham —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.51.230 ( talk) 17:34, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Is there any particular reason why the airport name continues to be removed from the infobox? I don't believe this was discussed to remove it. Snoozlepet ( talk) 18:19, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Is it necessary to include flights which aren't direct for Example Fly Hellas includes Athens, Baghdad, Ebril, Sulainiyah, yet there is only one direct flight to Athens.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 0555 ( talk • contribs)
Yes i understand what you mean because Singapore Airlines is an example from Manchester Airport which stops in Munich. Surely with Fly Hellas this is different as its not possible to go to Athens and be on the same flight to Baghdad, and Ebrill at the same time.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 0555 ( talk • contribs)
Biman Bangladesh there are currently no flights but maybe in the future as Manchester is listed on their website.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 0555 ( talk • contribs) Tunisair timetable and Manchester airport guide only lists Monastir and not Enfidha as their destination from Manchester.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 0555 ( talk • contribs)
Thanks for pointing that out as well and sorry i forgot to sign 0555 ( talk 18.17, 4 June 2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.163.9 ( talk) 17:17, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Is Monarch really moving to Terminal 2 from Nov 8? i can't find anything on the internet to support it? Thanks Wilbur2012( talk) 19:40, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
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![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
Formerly at Manchester (United Kingdom) Airport. Euwww!
"Several" flights a day?? It's a bit more than that! I've watched planes come in and leave every 90 seconds at times in the summer. I'm taking the reference to EasyJet out, too, as as far as I know they've never operated from Manchester - they use Liverpool airport. Arwel
I decided to shorten the introduction and to place some of the information contained within the article elsewhere, as at present it seems too detailed, specifically for location. However, someone reverted it. What are other users opinions on this? It's worth noting that people from outside the UK may view this article. So would not in the opening statement be better saying something along the lines of Manchester Airport is located in the north west of England, XX miles south-west of Manchester City Centre and then go in to more detail elsewhere in the article? Sheliaval ( talk) 09:36, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone have photos that could be used in the article? In particular in the infobox? Wangi 11:10, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Sorted, the iconic archway named "Gateway to the World/North" has been uploaded and put as the picture, also could we have some information about planespotting and transport info. Medscin 09:19, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Ive updated transport info, all extras would be appreciated Medscin 09:29, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Please do not add facts and figures to the Introduction. The Introduction simply tells the reader what the article is about and leads into the article. Additional information should go under a relevant heading so the reader can find it from Contents. Also, please check that any info you want to add is not already there! BlueValour 19:25, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
The exisiting expansion is sourced here. Please do not add other figures without sourcing to an exact page, not a website home page. BlueValour 17:30, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Sources for latest month/period now added; also source for latest airport long range passenger forecasts. User:Ringwayobserver
Manchester International Airport → Manchester Airport — Manchester Airport has been the official name since 1986 and is the name normally used when referring to the airport. It was previously a DMB and is now a redirect. BlueValour 23:04, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Strongly support above statement that the airport name is correctly 'Manchester Airport' - for example see hard copy 'Draft Master Plan to 2030' published in mid 2006 which uses 'Manchester Airport' throughout. User : Ringwayobserver 01 January 2007.
This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. Vegaswikian 07:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I am correct in thinking that the airport is located closest to Manchester but serves Greater Manchester. If I'm wrong can someone change the infobox. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 06:50, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
This is getting ridiculous. User:Jacklewis99 and many anon IPs has been adding "Chicago-O'Hare" and "New York-JFK" as a destination for Pakistan International Airlines. I just want to clear this once and for all. Can we list "Chicago-O'Hare" and "New York-JFK" as a destination? Bucs2004 22:15, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
yes we can because it is technically karachi to new york/chicago but they add a stop in manchester, meaning passengers at manchester can fly either ways
This is starting to get ridiculous. Bmi does not fly nor that they will flying to Los Angeles. The only flights that I have found between Manchester and Los Angeles are codeshared by United Airlines. So please stop adding Los Angeles as a destination, it will be reverted every time. Thanks! Bucs2004 16:23, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
An Advertisment in the Manchester Evening News promoted flights from Manchester with KLM-Air France to Los Angeles and San Francisco as well as Chicago, New York JFK, Boston and Sanford. What is all that about?!
Abfab27 01:23, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Stop Deleteing Aeroflot-cargo!!! Jesus... how many times did you lot delete Fedex? Oh and lordy Lord and guess what??? Fedex are flying in to MAN. Who would of thought? I had plenty of messages saying it wasnt happening! And it is....
Aeroflot will be from September DC10-40F... Thanks!
v-train... I think again you look a fool... need I still add a source for my again good information re: aeroflot? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.241.54.181 ( talk) 00:49, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
I dont need sources as everything i have added is true!!! Aeroflot are flying in to manchester are they not? YOU FOOL!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.166.19.58 ( talk) 16:46, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm thinking about uploading many pictures to this page. look at my user page user:samslipknot and i have many more yet to be uploaded. If anyone doesn't like them, I don't mind if you want to take the off. I know this page will only take the best.
I have just removed this recently added section, I am not sure that previous airlines are particularly notable. The list could also end up being an extremely long list as the airport has been open 69 years so previous airlines could be in the order of 200 or 300 airlines. MilborneOne 19:16, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
I recently asked for page protection, it has been confirmed by MastCell, this was due to the unprecedented vandalism on the page. Unprotected from 1st October onwards. Onnaghar talk ! ctrb 14:40, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Ultimately, it seems the vandalism is starting again. I'll report it to RFP when next spout of vandalism starts. Onnaghar talk ! ctrb ! er 18:20, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
It seems Dragonair is a disputed cargo operator at MAN but after searching the company websites flight plan it returned direct HKG-MAN routes, and this is definitely direct as I searched the Liverpool and other UK airports options available on the drop-down menu and it states that the cargo comes from Manchester or London-Heathrow. Onnaghar talk ! review 18:23, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I have many sources that do state that PIA fly to Chicago-O'hare and New York-JFK from Manchester.
Firstly: Pakistan International Airlines use Manchester as a Secondary hub and therefore will operate more destinations from Manchester than for instance, London-Heathrow. Secondly: I have checked the Manchester Airport website and that states that PIA do fly to these destinations from MAN. These destinations are also displayed on the Flight Information page. Finally: PIA have a strong presence at MAN, they operate roughtly 6 flight daily.
79.72.202.149 15:29, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Is it still the case that PIA do not have rights to transport new PAX between MAN and JFK? Users keep adding this, but I can't find anywhere that allows tickets to be purchased. Views welcome!
--
Rcalvert (
talk)
18:37, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
-- Rcalvert ( talk) 17:18, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Just a note, see here for the peer review. Rudget Contributions 16:43, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
The destinations have just been moved to a sub-pages, was this discussed? MilborneOne 18:18, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
It appears the individual terminal destinations lists articles are going to be deleted, so I will be bold and restore the destinations in this article. -- Oakshade 22:51, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Note: the following section is cut an pasted from
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of destinations served by Manchester Airport Terminal 1 (2nd nomination) and was not posted here by any editor.
(deindent). From the AfD : Delete as worthless trivia, which was my initial argument. But, to amplify: WP:IINFO. The airport itself is notable; a general summary of its destinations (x cities in y countries mainly in z regions) is desirable (and by the way, that already is in the article), but this level of detail is not. We are not a travel manual, but an encyclopedia. General information on the airport is notable; the fact that Pegasus Airlines flies to Bodrum out of its second terminal, or that Flybe goes to Norwich out of its third, is simply not encyclopedic material. Plus, no references, so this could be all made up. One way ticket to Deletion City. Way too much detail - Wikipedia is not a travel guide. *Delete for trying to imitate Expedia! (UTC)
to pick out three of 8. I have no personal goal to remove it from every article. I don't think it is encyclopaedic here on this one article. At least one other editor agrees. There is no longer a consensus to have it here. What happens elsewhere is up to the editors of those articles - not my concern and I will leave it up to them. Regan123 01:22, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
(de-indent) So you're going to ignore comments you don't like? I like to get a wide perspective for a consensus. The consensus has gone here. And I see you haven't dealt with points (2), (4) & (5) still. Regan123 22:50, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Don't know what's going on here, but all airports airticles have destinations. It's very useful and important and i personally come to Wikipedia to specifically look at them. Since when are they not allowed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.38.26.135 ( talk) 21:53, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
I have this article on my watchlist and almost every change made now is the addition of images. This is not a gallery, though maybe we could add one? It appears to be IP addresses adding most of the images, they look nice but they are just filling up the article when it should be expanded with text! └ and-rew┘┌ talk┐ 13:06, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
On my computer it appears that all the desinations on the sub-pages have disappeared! Whe I click on the link its says that no article of this type exsists! Whats going on??????????
86.1.8.218 ( talk)
OK. The above AfD closed as delete all, not merge. So I have moved the lists here to talk about the way forward for them. I am going to suggest several options, though they are not by any means exclusive:
From the AfD these were the primary arguments:
For clarity I wanted these lists deleted after reading the articles. I would prefer inserting the information in option 3 above. These lists are currently unsourced information, which we are not supposed to have on Wikipedia. I have quoted Jimbo above on this matter. It is also stated that there is a community consensus to have this information. I can find no written consensus on this (please feel free to point me in the correct direction for this if there is). Having read WP:Consensus several times over the past few days, I have noted this: Consensus decisions in specific cases are not expected to override consensus on a wider scale very quickly - for instance, a local debate on a Wikiproject does not override the larger consensus behind a policy or guideline. The project cannot decide that for "their" articles, said policy does not apply. It is also - from what I have observed - long standing that AfD is at the top of the community consensus tree (subject to WP:DRV). I asked about this at the village pump and got one definite response stating that you cannot reintroduce the information and one that says it depends. I have also had quoted at me No one person, and no (limited) group of people, can unilaterally declare that community consensus has changed, or that it is fixed and determined. The AfD means we have either two opposing ones or none as to the inclusion of the lists of destinations.
Also from the MOS I have noted Wikipedia:Lists, which again refers to verification as being required.
I want to get a consensus here as to how the editors of Manchester Airport would like to proceed and am happy to agree to the consensus that emerges here. The questions that would seem to arise are: do we want this info in the article? Can we verify it? And following on, in what format do we include it? Regan123 ( talk) 15:19, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
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The Destination lists were in this article since December of 2004 [5] with not one editor removing it. That an extremely strong indication of community consensus. Every Commercial airport aritlce has a destination list. Less than three weeks ago, a peer review of this article suggested separating the destination lists into separate "daughter articles" for length purposes. Those article were created and the long standing destination lists were separated from this article to those newly formed articles which almost immediately went to AfD. Th The AfDs were about those "daughter articles" The result of the AfDs were to specifically delete those articles, not to remove content from this one.-- Oakshade ( talk) 17:00, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Air Southwest to operate a Manchester - Newquay route. Check the Manchester Airport Website! 79.72.188.192 —Preceding comment was added at 18:47, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Can I just say that you lot are using the manchester airport website too much!!! It is not always up to date, and the destinations aren't always direct routes. For Example- LAX (Los Angeles) is listed as a destination (served by US Airways) on the website. This isn't at all a direct route, but involves catching a completely different service from Philadelphia (where US flies to) Robincross224 ( talk) 01:27, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
I agree. the manchester airport website shows flights being offered at that moment, so for example if you look up
Thomas cook on the airports website, it will list only the flights for that particular time of the season, and especially over winter that could be half of the destinations they actually fly too. the airports website is basically reliable for scheduled traffic but very unreliable for charteded flights —Preceding
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Am i missing something about this major 'development' as everytime i'm on this article there seems to be an insert about cathay pacific restarting its passenger flights. I knew there CX were to commence a service via moscow back in 2006 but this fell through. Has there been anything reputable written anywhere to suggest a new service in 2008? Danzinin ( talk) 23:37, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Im not sure, it was listed but when it surfaced that Oasis Hong Kong airlines were planning a route to manchester from Hong Kong i think they cancelled that idea. OHKA is low budget airline so CX probably saw no point in providing a service too.
Have Cathay Pacifc restarted their service to Hong Kong ? and have Afriqiyah Airways commenced services to Tripoli from Manchester as stated in the "Future Airlines" column?
Hi there- I've just deleted the Canadian Affair entry (to Toronto), as Canadian Affair is not an airline. It is essentially a travel agent, who advertise and sell Air Transat, Thomas Cook and MyTravel flights to Canada. They have also since been bought by air transat. All three have operated services to YYZ for ages, so what was this entry meant to mean?
Robincross224 ( talk) 01:23, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
The article says in 2006 Manchester had a recorded 234,835 aircraft movements, but elsewhere in WP Busiest_airports_in_the_United_Kingdom_by_total_passenger_traffic the figure for the same year is 229,729. Not a big difference, certainly not big enough to change MAN's rankings, but a discrepancy all the same .... -- Jotel ( talk) 18:40, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Please can this be put back onto the page. I know the destinations are already listed but it is much easier to glance at the future destinations rather than look through all the terminal lists —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danfearn77 ( talk • contribs) 10:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
im not so sure. i have added to this section a few times and all routes are genuine. i agree that they need to be referenced. most of the time it is on manchester airports website under 'new routes'. its just easier to look at. the future airlines i think is interesting but again they need to be referenced —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.110.13.234 ( talk) 16:07, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone know where we could get passenger numbers for the airport for the first few months of this year? i have looked on the CAA website and other places but i cant find any info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danfearn77 ( talk • contribs) 16:38, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
The current source for this information is ais.org.uk This is contrary to WP's policy of not using sources requiring registration. World Aeronautical Database worldaerodata.com is registration-free, but not up to date. Any suggestions for a replacement? -- Jotel ( talk) 13:44, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Right, after seeing this pop up on recent changes far too much, I have protected it due to edit warring. This is not helpful, several parties in this were in flagrant breach of the 3 revert rule. Discuss your issues here. Woody ( talk) 19:15, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
User User:Abfab27 added information on the airport signage being changed, I have reverted it as being non-notable. The user has added it again and I have reverted once more with an invitation to discuss. Comment welcome. MilborneOne ( talk) 19:17, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Following on from recent edits by Dbx54 and BillCJ... I recently changed this paragraph of the lead from:
To:
This is much more concise and much more honest language - the previous version was basically "Manchester Airport is the busiest airport in the United Kingdom, except those busier than it". If anyone wants information on the airports which are busier than it then the linked article gives them it - there is no lead for that in the lead of this article. Thanks/ wangi ( talk) 08:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
The history section mentions two RAF runways being skimpily constructed, and much later talks about the building of the airport's "second runway". This leaves the reader wondering when the second RAF runway fell out of use; indeed, it's also unstated whether in fact either of the RAF runways became the commercial airport's original one runway. Could somebody with knowledge of the history clarify it please? – Kieran T ( talk) 17:34, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
I think Air Canada have ceased direct operations to Manchester, I rung Air Canada to try and book a flight the other day, and they said they don't do direct flights in the summer (Which was the only time they did flights, as they were seasonal) 90.198.250.227 ( talk) 20:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Someone changed the location from Speke to Greater Manchester. Most airports pages state their exact location, rather than a general location e.g. Liverpool states Speke as it's location, Stansted states Uttlesford as it's location, even an airport as large as Barcelona states it location as El Prat de Llobregat. Only the London airports seem to give more general location information. Sheliaval ( talk) 09:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I meant Ringway not Speke. Sheliaval ( talk) 12:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
These guys fly to the azores but there is a technical stop in london. however u can book tickets from manchester to the azores so maybe it should be listed. the airline flies here it would be different if it were a codeshare agreement but its not Danfearn77 ( talk) 16:56, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
This has been added a few times, but if you go0 on their website they state several new destination but manchester is not listed as one of them. has anyone got a source for this info??? Danfearn77 ( talk) 10:39, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
As I and others appear to be removing the minor collison between a Futura and Lufthansa aircraft on the 5 August at least once a day. I have asked those adding to discuss but a number of IP users just keep adding. This event is not really notable or uncommon but as this add/revert cycle has been going on for a few days looking for other opinions. Thank you. MilborneOne ( talk) 19:32, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Can people leave Swiss the destinations alone! Swiss has three destinations from Manchester which are Basel, Geneva and Zurich (which is both operated by Swiss and Helvitic airlines) If you are still unsure check the Swiss website!
I noticed someone added a JFK route from American Airlines and a Las Vegas route form Virgin is this true? I removed this because I could not see any evidance of this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.209.88.81 ( talk • contribs) 19:48, 25 November 2008
Copy/pasted my reply from above thread.
We recently flew from Manchester airport,i dropped off my fellow passengers at departures and went to find the long stay carpark which i had difficulty finding as it was badly sign posted and took a wrong turn up the M56,drove several miles before i could turn round and re entered the airport,drove up to departures again and second time found the long stay car park.I recommend much clearer signage on the roundabout to direct cars in the right direction to prevent people from doing the same as me.It would be nice to hear from you. Regards Peter Grantham —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.51.230 ( talk) 17:34, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Is there any particular reason why the airport name continues to be removed from the infobox? I don't believe this was discussed to remove it. Snoozlepet ( talk) 18:19, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Is it necessary to include flights which aren't direct for Example Fly Hellas includes Athens, Baghdad, Ebril, Sulainiyah, yet there is only one direct flight to Athens.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 0555 ( talk • contribs)
Yes i understand what you mean because Singapore Airlines is an example from Manchester Airport which stops in Munich. Surely with Fly Hellas this is different as its not possible to go to Athens and be on the same flight to Baghdad, and Ebrill at the same time.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 0555 ( talk • contribs)
Biman Bangladesh there are currently no flights but maybe in the future as Manchester is listed on their website.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 0555 ( talk • contribs) Tunisair timetable and Manchester airport guide only lists Monastir and not Enfidha as their destination from Manchester.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 0555 ( talk • contribs)
Thanks for pointing that out as well and sorry i forgot to sign 0555 ( talk 18.17, 4 June 2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.163.9 ( talk) 17:17, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Is Monarch really moving to Terminal 2 from Nov 8? i can't find anything on the internet to support it? Thanks Wilbur2012( talk) 19:40, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
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