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The only available one is "monarch" while this can (kind of) apply to Emirs and Sultans it absolutely cannot apply to the office of Caliph or Caliphate. These are two extremely different terms and it's important to recognize this as such. A monarch is one that is bound by a constitution or is absolute, a Caliph must be binding to the Quran, the Sunnah and the Shura of his people. This is one of the responsibilities outlined to Malik Al-Ashtar by Ali (RA) himself. I would be more than happy to provide more sources for this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1970:5163:1200:0:0:0:9486 ( talk) 03:16, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
the part about uthman uses shiite ahadith as references and these hadith are extremley biased and especially so against uthman. shiite ahadith is not accepted by sunnis who make up 85%-90% of claiments to islam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.15.199.110 ( talk) 03:24, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
I strongly question the idea that Malik died in the Battle of Siffin. Usually he and Ali Talib are thought to be victorious and went onto fight the battle of Layla-tul-Harir. freestylefrappe July 1, 2005 21:43 (UTC)
I'm new to wiki editing so I don't know how to do this. There is a correction that must be made to the title, "Malik ibn Ashter". It must be corrected to "Malik al-Ashtar since "al-Ashtar" was an appellation and not his father's name. I have mentioned this in the article, but I don't know how to make the change to the title, nor do I know how to do this for the Arabic language part where his name his written again as "Malik ibn Ashtar" which is incorrect. Any changes and/or assistance would be much appreciated. -- Furtfurt 20:41, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Blatant POV in the Malik al-Ashtar article under the heading "Views on al-Ashtar." No references provided to support the claim, thus removed.
This section needs to be cleaned up if anyone has the time. If not, I'll get to it at some later point in time. Furtfurt 20:31, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: restore the stable title Malik al-Ashtar per the discussion below and the block of the originator of this request as a sockpuppet. Dekimasu よ! 05:54, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Malik bin al-Harith → Malik ibn al-Harith – Early Islamic figures are all written with "ibn" instead of "bin" such as Ammar ibn Yasir, Khalid ibn al-Walid, Amr ibn al-As, Muhammad ibn Abi Bakr, Abd Allah ibn al-Zubayr etc. Literally all are spelled this way, "bin" is more used on modern articles such as Mohammed bin Salman, Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan etc. Shi'anAliIbnAbiTalib ( talk) 10:08, 19 December 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request ( permalink). – robertsky ( talk) 01:32, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
the Arabic word بن/ابن (English: son of) should be transcribed ibn unless a common transcription requires the colloquial bin(we are dealing with a basic transcription here, as for most or all historical figures), so the OP is right to request "ibn". If not the apparently most common name Malik al-Ashtar, the title of this page should at the very least be Malik ibn al-Harith or Malik ibn al-Harith al-Ashtar (cf., e.g., [1]). ☿ Apaugasma ( talk ☉) 17:13, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
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The only available one is "monarch" while this can (kind of) apply to Emirs and Sultans it absolutely cannot apply to the office of Caliph or Caliphate. These are two extremely different terms and it's important to recognize this as such. A monarch is one that is bound by a constitution or is absolute, a Caliph must be binding to the Quran, the Sunnah and the Shura of his people. This is one of the responsibilities outlined to Malik Al-Ashtar by Ali (RA) himself. I would be more than happy to provide more sources for this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1970:5163:1200:0:0:0:9486 ( talk) 03:16, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
the part about uthman uses shiite ahadith as references and these hadith are extremley biased and especially so against uthman. shiite ahadith is not accepted by sunnis who make up 85%-90% of claiments to islam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.15.199.110 ( talk) 03:24, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
I strongly question the idea that Malik died in the Battle of Siffin. Usually he and Ali Talib are thought to be victorious and went onto fight the battle of Layla-tul-Harir. freestylefrappe July 1, 2005 21:43 (UTC)
I'm new to wiki editing so I don't know how to do this. There is a correction that must be made to the title, "Malik ibn Ashter". It must be corrected to "Malik al-Ashtar since "al-Ashtar" was an appellation and not his father's name. I have mentioned this in the article, but I don't know how to make the change to the title, nor do I know how to do this for the Arabic language part where his name his written again as "Malik ibn Ashtar" which is incorrect. Any changes and/or assistance would be much appreciated. -- Furtfurt 20:41, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Blatant POV in the Malik al-Ashtar article under the heading "Views on al-Ashtar." No references provided to support the claim, thus removed.
This section needs to be cleaned up if anyone has the time. If not, I'll get to it at some later point in time. Furtfurt 20:31, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: restore the stable title Malik al-Ashtar per the discussion below and the block of the originator of this request as a sockpuppet. Dekimasu よ! 05:54, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Malik bin al-Harith → Malik ibn al-Harith – Early Islamic figures are all written with "ibn" instead of "bin" such as Ammar ibn Yasir, Khalid ibn al-Walid, Amr ibn al-As, Muhammad ibn Abi Bakr, Abd Allah ibn al-Zubayr etc. Literally all are spelled this way, "bin" is more used on modern articles such as Mohammed bin Salman, Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan etc. Shi'anAliIbnAbiTalib ( talk) 10:08, 19 December 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request ( permalink). – robertsky ( talk) 01:32, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
the Arabic word بن/ابن (English: son of) should be transcribed ibn unless a common transcription requires the colloquial bin(we are dealing with a basic transcription here, as for most or all historical figures), so the OP is right to request "ibn". If not the apparently most common name Malik al-Ashtar, the title of this page should at the very least be Malik ibn al-Harith or Malik ibn al-Harith al-Ashtar (cf., e.g., [1]). ☿ Apaugasma ( talk ☉) 17:13, 22 December 2023 (UTC)