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Starting a discussion here on the IP's removal - and now mine - of "and antihero" from the first sentence of the lede, which formerly read "is the protagonist and antihero". I agree with the IP that the two terms appear to contradict each other; based on the article I'm not sure "is the protagonist" is the best wording, however. Antihero on the face of it designates a foil to the protagonist, or "hero". If he is the sole main character and is a character "we love to hate", it might be better to qualify "protagonist" with an adjective such as "unlikeable"; this would fit with the use of the POV "notorious" later in the article, but reliable sources would be required. "Morally complex" might be better based on the entire discussion later in the article, and would be safely neutral. On the other hand, I do not see the article stating that he is the single main character, and if the series in fact does not have one main character, so "one of the main characters" would be better and would avoid the whole issue, although something like "morally complex" or "unlikeable" - depending on sources - would still be desirable in the lede to match the content of the article. Are tehre sources that refer to him as an "antihero" or by some equivalent term such as "foil to" one or more main characters? If so, "antihero" would be apposite in the lede but "the protagonist" would be contradictory - and "a main character" redundant. Yngvadottir ( talk) 18:09, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
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Is he a recovering alcoholic? He noticeably squirms when Nicola asks what his favourite drink is, Ollie's whiskey question in the last episode sounds rather barbed, I'm pretty sure he's never seen drinking alcohol, and the real-life political figure he's based on (Alastair Campbell) is. Have any fo the writers commented on this?-- MartinUK ( talk) 23:10, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
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Starting a discussion here on the IP's removal - and now mine - of "and antihero" from the first sentence of the lede, which formerly read "is the protagonist and antihero". I agree with the IP that the two terms appear to contradict each other; based on the article I'm not sure "is the protagonist" is the best wording, however. Antihero on the face of it designates a foil to the protagonist, or "hero". If he is the sole main character and is a character "we love to hate", it might be better to qualify "protagonist" with an adjective such as "unlikeable"; this would fit with the use of the POV "notorious" later in the article, but reliable sources would be required. "Morally complex" might be better based on the entire discussion later in the article, and would be safely neutral. On the other hand, I do not see the article stating that he is the single main character, and if the series in fact does not have one main character, so "one of the main characters" would be better and would avoid the whole issue, although something like "morally complex" or "unlikeable" - depending on sources - would still be desirable in the lede to match the content of the article. Are tehre sources that refer to him as an "antihero" or by some equivalent term such as "foil to" one or more main characters? If so, "antihero" would be apposite in the lede but "the protagonist" would be contradictory - and "a main character" redundant. Yngvadottir ( talk) 18:09, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 07:55, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Is he a recovering alcoholic? He noticeably squirms when Nicola asks what his favourite drink is, Ollie's whiskey question in the last episode sounds rather barbed, I'm pretty sure he's never seen drinking alcohol, and the real-life political figure he's based on (Alastair Campbell) is. Have any fo the writers commented on this?-- MartinUK ( talk) 23:10, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
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