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Nominator: FuzzyMagma ( talk · contribs) 12:22, 30 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Reviewer: Adabow ( talk · contribs) 23:33, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). some questions about sources below
2c. it contains no original research.
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. one sentence with very close paraphrasing
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. File:Julius Malema 2011-09-14.jpg is released under cc-sa licence
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
7. Overall assessment.

Comments on prose

  • "Matsinhe argued..." – Please define/introduce Matsinhe. I suggest "Sociologist David Matsinge argued..."
  • checkY fixed.

Reference spotchecks

  • " Zambia (where many South African exiles lived before 1994)" is not supported by ref 2
  • checkY Fixed by adding a source for the information in brackets
  • The new reference discusses the ANC in exile in Zambia. It doesn't support that "a significant number of South African exiles resided prior to 1994".
  • Phrasing of "(in a non-derogatory sense) to refer to all Shonas from Zimbabwe (then known as Rhodesia)" is directly from Ref 2. Suggest paraphrasing
  • checkY paraphrased. FYI, It was not me who added this line including the unreferenced part, see this . Anyhow, it is now fixed.
  • checkY Refs 10 and 11 verify statement
  • "The term has become so pervasive that it has been included in dictionaries as “an offensive and derogatory slur used in South Africa to describe foreigners from other African countries.”[19]" – This is only supported by reference one dictionary ( which has now closed)
  • checkY I have now added Oxford and Collins Dictionary too
  • None of these references supports the quotation. The Collins and Dictionary.com entries are for amakwerekwere. Is this term a variation of makwerekwere? If so, this should be mentioned in the article.
  • The Macmillan link is broken as the dictionary has closed.
  • The Ray Leathern article doesn't even mention the word.
  • checkY 28 (now 29) is a BBC video on YouTube. 29 (was 30) is surely self published, thus the sentence was removed.
  • The BBC video is interesting, but it doesn't support the sentence "These victims are often scapegoated for various issues[...]and are used as a physical reminder of difference"
  • Sorry, I could have been clearer that somalichristians.org looks to be a self-published blog
  • " In 2004, Boom Shaka released the kwaito classic "Makwerekwere"[37] which discouraged xenophobia.[38]" – Not supported by references
  • checkY 37 is a link to the song itself on YouTube, replaced by 39 which mention the song. add new 40 and 41 commenting on the song itself. I got the release date wrong also, it should be 1993 and not 2004. I confused it with Lolilo - Makwerekwere (really bad song)
  • Ref 39 doesn't support any content in the sentence; is it needed?
  • Sunday News calls the song "Amakwere" and Viljoen calls it "Kwere Kwere", but the article text says "KwereKwere"

I'm playing the review on hold while the comments I've made above are considered. Adabow ( talk) 00:46, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Thank you for taking the time to review the page and for the feedback to improve it. I have fixed the issues that you have raised FuzzyMagma ( talk) 14:20, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Thanks for your work, FuzzyMagma. I've commented on your responses inline. I still have concerns about the verifiability of some content by reliable sources. I will go through and do further source spotchecking later. I strongly recommend that you go through the article and ensure that each statement is supported by the reference used in the article. Adabow ( talk) 22:48, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

GA Review

Article ( | visual edit | history) · Article talk ( | history) · Watch

Nominator: FuzzyMagma ( talk · contribs) 12:22, 30 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Reviewer: Adabow ( talk · contribs) 23:33, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). some questions about sources below
2c. it contains no original research.
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. one sentence with very close paraphrasing
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. File:Julius Malema 2011-09-14.jpg is released under cc-sa licence
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
7. Overall assessment.

Comments on prose

  • "Matsinhe argued..." – Please define/introduce Matsinhe. I suggest "Sociologist David Matsinge argued..."
  • checkY fixed.

Reference spotchecks

  • " Zambia (where many South African exiles lived before 1994)" is not supported by ref 2
  • checkY Fixed by adding a source for the information in brackets
  • The new reference discusses the ANC in exile in Zambia. It doesn't support that "a significant number of South African exiles resided prior to 1994".
  • Phrasing of "(in a non-derogatory sense) to refer to all Shonas from Zimbabwe (then known as Rhodesia)" is directly from Ref 2. Suggest paraphrasing
  • checkY paraphrased. FYI, It was not me who added this line including the unreferenced part, see this . Anyhow, it is now fixed.
  • checkY Refs 10 and 11 verify statement
  • "The term has become so pervasive that it has been included in dictionaries as “an offensive and derogatory slur used in South Africa to describe foreigners from other African countries.”[19]" – This is only supported by reference one dictionary ( which has now closed)
  • checkY I have now added Oxford and Collins Dictionary too
  • None of these references supports the quotation. The Collins and Dictionary.com entries are for amakwerekwere. Is this term a variation of makwerekwere? If so, this should be mentioned in the article.
  • The Macmillan link is broken as the dictionary has closed.
  • The Ray Leathern article doesn't even mention the word.
  • checkY 28 (now 29) is a BBC video on YouTube. 29 (was 30) is surely self published, thus the sentence was removed.
  • The BBC video is interesting, but it doesn't support the sentence "These victims are often scapegoated for various issues[...]and are used as a physical reminder of difference"
  • Sorry, I could have been clearer that somalichristians.org looks to be a self-published blog
  • " In 2004, Boom Shaka released the kwaito classic "Makwerekwere"[37] which discouraged xenophobia.[38]" – Not supported by references
  • checkY 37 is a link to the song itself on YouTube, replaced by 39 which mention the song. add new 40 and 41 commenting on the song itself. I got the release date wrong also, it should be 1993 and not 2004. I confused it with Lolilo - Makwerekwere (really bad song)
  • Ref 39 doesn't support any content in the sentence; is it needed?
  • Sunday News calls the song "Amakwere" and Viljoen calls it "Kwere Kwere", but the article text says "KwereKwere"

I'm playing the review on hold while the comments I've made above are considered. Adabow ( talk) 00:46, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Thank you for taking the time to review the page and for the feedback to improve it. I have fixed the issues that you have raised FuzzyMagma ( talk) 14:20, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Thanks for your work, FuzzyMagma. I've commented on your responses inline. I still have concerns about the verifiability of some content by reliable sources. I will go through and do further source spotchecking later. I strongly recommend that you go through the article and ensure that each statement is supported by the reference used in the article. Adabow ( talk) 22:48, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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