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Are other editors still in agreement with the rename idea to "Maine accent" as discussed on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maine dialect? We can discuss below. Wolfdog ( talk) 16:33, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. History swap performed to preserve the old history. Jenks24 ( talk) 06:22, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Maine dialect →
Maine accent – The
Atlas of North American English identifies (at least the modern-day) Maine variety as a subset of the
Northern/Eastern New England dialect, as much of its phonology and vocabulary show: "Northeastern New England [NENE] is the r-less area with the low back merger, a sizeable area centered about Boston and extending into New Hampshire and Maine" (p. 225). The second paragraph of
[1] also verifies this. Also, "Maine accent" is by far the more common name anyway, as a quick
Google Scholar search can show. Down East Maine accent also appears to be somewhat common (and maybe more specific), though still not as common as "Maine accent."
Wolfdog (
talk) 13:54, 31 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted.
Jenks24 (
talk)
10:35, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Wolfdog: Re [3], please explain how those are wrong or 'unhelpful'. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) ( talk) 18:24, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
At the risk of another two-person ramble, why are we adding somewhat extraneous information? The sentence As in RP, the symbols ⟨ɜ⟩ and ⟨ə⟩ used elsewhere in the article denote a difference between stressable (long) and unstressable (short) schwas (according to the old IPA value of ⟨ɜ⟩ as a 'variety of ⟨ə⟩'), not a consistent difference in quality.
supposes that <ɜ> is used elsewhere in the article when it isn't -- just the chart. I think the whole sentence is redundant.
Wolfdog (
talk)
22:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
In word-final positions, LETTER/COMMA can also differ in quality from NURSE by being more open (as it usually is in other dialects), so that the final vowels in cypher /ˈsaɪfə/ and alpha /ˈælfə/ are often lower, [ˈsaɪfɐ, ˈæɫfɐ], in addition to being shorter than the final vowel of transfer (as a noun) [ˈtɹɛənsfəː].instead, it's so obvious that anyone that knows a bit about English phonetics will figure that out by themselves. Sol505000 ( talk) 22:21, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
The etymology given for "nippy" being "cold enough to stiffen one's nipples" is incorrect. "Nip", in the sense of "bite", has been used to describe cold weather for centuries, and is not specific to Maine (though it is commonly used there). The reference given is a humorous article which substitutes the phrase "a tit nipply" for "a bit nippy". Admittedly, this joke phrase is also commonly used in Maine, but is understood to be humorous. Akuweal ( talk) 17:55, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
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This article should not be speedy deleted as having no substantive content because I am currently working to develop further content. It should be completed by Tuesday, May 19.
Are other editors still in agreement with the rename idea to "Maine accent" as discussed on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maine dialect? We can discuss below. Wolfdog ( talk) 16:33, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. History swap performed to preserve the old history. Jenks24 ( talk) 06:22, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Maine dialect →
Maine accent – The
Atlas of North American English identifies (at least the modern-day) Maine variety as a subset of the
Northern/Eastern New England dialect, as much of its phonology and vocabulary show: "Northeastern New England [NENE] is the r-less area with the low back merger, a sizeable area centered about Boston and extending into New Hampshire and Maine" (p. 225). The second paragraph of
[1] also verifies this. Also, "Maine accent" is by far the more common name anyway, as a quick
Google Scholar search can show. Down East Maine accent also appears to be somewhat common (and maybe more specific), though still not as common as "Maine accent."
Wolfdog (
talk) 13:54, 31 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted.
Jenks24 (
talk)
10:35, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Wolfdog: Re [3], please explain how those are wrong or 'unhelpful'. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) ( talk) 18:24, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
At the risk of another two-person ramble, why are we adding somewhat extraneous information? The sentence As in RP, the symbols ⟨ɜ⟩ and ⟨ə⟩ used elsewhere in the article denote a difference between stressable (long) and unstressable (short) schwas (according to the old IPA value of ⟨ɜ⟩ as a 'variety of ⟨ə⟩'), not a consistent difference in quality.
supposes that <ɜ> is used elsewhere in the article when it isn't -- just the chart. I think the whole sentence is redundant.
Wolfdog (
talk)
22:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
In word-final positions, LETTER/COMMA can also differ in quality from NURSE by being more open (as it usually is in other dialects), so that the final vowels in cypher /ˈsaɪfə/ and alpha /ˈælfə/ are often lower, [ˈsaɪfɐ, ˈæɫfɐ], in addition to being shorter than the final vowel of transfer (as a noun) [ˈtɹɛənsfəː].instead, it's so obvious that anyone that knows a bit about English phonetics will figure that out by themselves. Sol505000 ( talk) 22:21, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
The etymology given for "nippy" being "cold enough to stiffen one's nipples" is incorrect. "Nip", in the sense of "bite", has been used to describe cold weather for centuries, and is not specific to Maine (though it is commonly used there). The reference given is a humorous article which substitutes the phrase "a tit nipply" for "a bit nippy". Admittedly, this joke phrase is also commonly used in Maine, but is understood to be humorous. Akuweal ( talk) 17:55, 6 June 2023 (UTC)