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I think there are 3 more "Maine" besides the State so the page Maine should be a disambiguation page and the page of the state should be named Maine (US State).
The other three are at the bottom of the Maine page.
I know this can sound controversial to the natives of Maine, but they are not the only with that name in the world.
No but guess what; when someone says Maine 99% of the time it's referring to THE STATE! Your arrogant superiority not withstanding.
Agreed! If Maine is made a disambiguation page, you'd have to do the same for plenty of other states and/or places in this country and the world.
Did you check "What links here"? How many of them refer to anything other than the state? Very few, if any. RickK 04:33, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I reverted the three links in the attribution of the Millay quote. The quote is supposed to embellish and amplify the subject of the text. When three hyperlinks in color are placed so close, you get the text calling attention to to the quote - the exact opposite of the intended style. There are other places in the article where the items in the attribution can be discussed in their own right as full stand-alone subjects, if that is what is desired. -JN
I agree about the formatting but not the link. Although one link is less eye-cluttering than three at this point, I would like to see none. If one is nevertheless for some reason desired, I would recommend a good external link, which I can provide. The Wikipedia article on Millay is, frankly, pretty poor quality. I can give the reasons for that assessment if you desire an extended discussion of literary criticism, although-as the point in this section is trying to convey- the interest should here be on Maine and not literature. I will post two revisions- one without the link and one with a high quality link. Choose which one you like - JN
First, Baloney. If "It's Wikipedia policy", show me the policy. Second, most encyclopedia readers wouldn't know who Edna St. Vincent Millay is? Cut it out. If you think people know that little about literature, you should be sticking to geography topics, which is fine with me. JN
I hesitated to edit the article because, hey, I am Canadian, and it could come across as a POV edit.
Here is what I know: the border between Maine and New Brunswick and Quebec was a matter of dispute until the early 1900s. Northern Maine was occupied during the war of 1812 by British forces, partially under the pretext that the Brits had a right to be there. Like most royal charters the Nova Scotia charter of 1624 gave NS rights from something like Virginia to Labrador... ;).
Here is what I suspect. I think that the border was ill defined. In the novel "His Majesties Yankees" historian Thomas Raddall writes that the "Machias Men" considered themselves and were considered to be in Nova Scotia, and that Nova Scotia settlements beyond Cumberland were at the river mouths of Saint John and Machias.
Back to fact: Now this is of course mitigated by the fact that most settlers in the south shore and Fundy area of Nova Scotia at the outset of the 1776 war were actually settlers from Massachusetts, and some other New England states (fisher folk were happy to move to Nova Scotia after the French were defeated, and be that much closer to the fishing... apparently entire houses were disassembled in Glouster, MA and moved over to Liverpool NS.) So Machias men could be BOTH Nova Scotia men and Massachussets men.
I am going to try and research this and come back with more facts but I am wondering if anyone has any insight, and if I can provide references, would there be objections to a slight (two to three line) edit to the history of Maine?
www.maine.gov has a good rendition of the border dispute. AFethke 17:52, August 13, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, I will turn my hand to this this evening.... WayeMason 18:23, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
I did some research. County Sunbury, who knew it even had a name and a capital, if oyu can call the occasional visit by a magistrate to campebello a capital. Hope this meets your your approval, I am going to insert something similar into the Nova Scotia page. WayeMason 19:15, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
Yay AFethke 21:45, August 13, 2005 (UTC)
Is it Mt. Katahdin or Cadillac Mountain? Please find a source for this if you thik it's wrong. Gator (talk) 13:26, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Hello! I am a writer for the Smithsonian's Center for Education, which publishes Smithsonian in Your Classroom, a magazine for teachers. An online version of an issue titled "Contrasts in Blue: Life on the Caribbean Coral Reef and the Rocky Coast of Maine" is available for free at this address:
http://www.smithsonianeducation.org/educators/lesson_plans/contrast/cover.html
It includes a background essay and lesson plans. If you think the audience would find this valuable, I wish to invite you to include it as an external link. We would be most grateful.
Thank you so much for your attention.
I'd just like to add that Maine rocks my socks! -- Tom12384 06:12, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, new to wikipedia. However, the article says that under the geography section it explains how a large part of this state's interior is uninhabited. There is no geography section (and the link at the bottom doesnt link to anything!) -- Tom12384 06:16, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Over on the article at the Trent Affair there is mention of Maine being in the midst of thoughts of secession itself during the U.S. Civil War, but I have never heard of this. Any Mainers/historians with knowledge care to share/elaborate. Seems this might be worth mentioning in the history section and/or correcting in the Trent Affair article. Any insight? Isoxyl 20:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I think the particular list called "Other significant cities and towns" is problematic. Unless everyone can agree on a concise definition of "significant," it has the potential to grow ridiculously long. It's already a tad longish, in my humble opinion. Everyone thinks there's something "significant" about the town they live in. What constitutes significant, and what doesn't? I propose just removing it, and possibly including a link to Category:Towns in Maine somewhere in the article instead. JamesofMaine 19:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Would it be possible to add "All Info About Maine" as an external link? It has a ton of great information about the state of Maine:
http://www.allinfoaboutmaine.com
I tried to add it myself, but was told to take it here first.
Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mainechick ( talk • contribs) 16:02, 12 Oct 2006 (UTC)
It states on this page that Maine is the only state to have declared war unilaterally. That is untrue, or at least inaccurate. Vermont has also declared war. They declared war on Germany before the US government did: http://vtcommons.org/node/174 ALoponom 15:56, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
The article says "Wind chill often reduces the winter temperature to lows beyond -20." The wind chill factor only affects subjective temperatures, not the actual temperature. If that is meant, then it should be put that way. Also, I assume this is Fahrenheit, in which case that should also be specified. And isn't it a wikirule to give values in SI units (Celsius) first? DirkvdM 08:17, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
The Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. states format has been updated to include a new Sports section, that covers collegiate sports, amateur sports, and non-team sports (such as hunting and fishing). Please feel free to add this new heading, and supply information about sports in Maine. Please see South_carolina#Sports_in_South_Carolina as an example. NorCalHistory 13:43, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Minor athletes, Pros with no outstanding records, really should not be included in a State's Famous person list. This would add substantial clutter to the Maine site, and would just boil down to a fan's list. At the very least, a person on the list should have merited a wikipedia page of their own BEFORE being included on the MAINE page. -- Mitchsensei 05:39, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Politics section - Actually, Rich Whitney (G) won 10% of the vote for Illinois' gubernatorial race in November of last year. So that's the Green's best election bid yet. AdrianLaTraceJr 08:03, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Bold textCameronWhat happened to the page? It looks like tons of stuff was removed, any reason for this?
Any word on Maine taxes, highest in the US, and what it's doing to jobs and folks moving away?
- Its second highest to New York.
Maine’s State/Local Tax Burden Highest in Nation During the past three decades Maine has consistently had one of the highest state and local tax burdens. Estimated at 13.5% of income, Maine’s state/local tax burden percentage has ranked as the nation's highest each year since 1997, and remains well above the national average of 10.6%. Maine taxpayers pay $4,719 per-capita in state and local taxes.
Wondering how to change the list of major cities at the bottom...Brunswick should be in there.
I never liked France much.............kool ok?
Wondering how to edit this State Entry?
The
WikiProject U.S. states standards might help.
Should this be "State of Maine"? What if we want to discuss the French province of Maine? -- Zoe
I like this change, thanks, maveric. -- Zoe
The Maine, in France, is - like the Loire - a river. But I guess it could be under Maine river/River then (unless there's one in the US as well. jheijmans
Maine Watcher
Brunswick should not be on the list of cities in Maine. Brunswick is legally a town -- the largest one in Maine. Maine Watcher 18:42, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
This is pretty pedantic, but I'm a geek, so...
This article calls Maine the easternmost state. Thing is, if you look on a map, a few of Alaska's Aleutian islands are actually across the border into the eastern hemisphere - so technically, shouldn't that make Alaska, rather than Maine, the easternmost state?
I agree. In a lecture for a geography class Im taking, the teacher just talked about how Alaska is the most western, eastern, and northern state. (Hawaii being the most southern.) Maine is not the easternmost state.
Disagree - When discussing a nation, state, city, etc. terms such as easternmost are relative to the whole of the nation, state, city, etc. It really has nothing to do with hemispheres which are only names given to halves on the globe. The fact that a nation is in two or more hemispheres has no bearing on which end of that country is furthest in a particular direction.
It's the Easternmost of the contiguous United States. Put that. -- Lithfo 06:18, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Maine doesn't have the only border dispute in the US, but maybe it is the only "land" border dispute. There are maritime disputes between the US and Canada in the Alaska-British Columbia-Washington area, which actually led to a confrontation in the 90's (?) involving a fishing boat and boats from both the Canadian and US coast guards.
Actually, the state of Texas had a land dispute with Mexico from the time it was founded as the Republic of Texas, continuing thru it's annexation by the US, and up thru the signing of the treaty ending the Mexican-American war. Joncnunn 21:06, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Just created this entry -- can someone with knowledge of this town (or reference books that mention it) fix this? There's not much on the Internet. Thanks, Badagnani 23:21, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Winnegance is the name of a bay in the northern part of Casco Bay. The towns of West Bath, Harpswell, Phippsburg (and perhaps others) are located on or near Winnegance Bay. It's bordered by Bushy Island to the to the east and Jenny's Nubble and the New Meadows River to the west. Yhere may have been a village or other type of locality in the past named Winnegance, but to the best of my knowledge, no such town as Winnegance exists now. The only other reference to the bay that I know of is a "Winnegance Lane" located on Birch Point. Novatom 02:17, 10 May 2007 (UTC) Novatom 02:17, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
From what I've heard, similar to what JamesofMaine was saying, Winnegance was a name for the area "back in the day", but it has no real meaning now. This might be a situation in which a google search isn't the best way to go. user:ktwsolo 16:42, 18 July 2007 EST
I grew up in Maine and lived their for 18 years. I remember being taught in grade school that the name of the state came from the mainland (as opposed to the islands), as the current article mentions, but having travelled more widely since then, I suspect that the sole origin of the name comes from the département in France, known today as Maine et Loire. My reasons for this perspective are:
If interested, be sure to see the current Wikipedia article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine_%28province_of_France%29 Bafooma 01:41, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
There is almost certainly right. Virginia or some other mid-coastal state would more likely have been named "Maine" if the number of islands offshore were relevant. Also, I can't figure out which link says anything about this while, here, I have a link. -- Lithfo 06:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Some of you people from Maine may be able to help me pinpoint this location. It was on the ocean somewhere between Kennebunk and Saco. It is a state park with some kind of a weird name. It has a bridge that goes across to the beach. Anyway, if you can remember the name, let me know. Fundamentaldan 21:56, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
For this particular question it is best to know what I am talking about, namely the difference between 'Citizen of the United States and citizen of the United States for more information regarding this issue, read: Citizenship. The former is as defined by the constitution and is only a person born in one of the 13 orginal states of teh Union while the later is anyone granted citizenship by congress using the 14th Amendement.
Because Maine was Massachusetts before I wonder if it counts as one of the original states and hence have inalienable rights or if the people of Maine only have severly restricted privileges given by congress? Lord Metroid 16:29, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
... Upon further research, I am now unsure of the juridical playfield of citizen and Citizen if such things even exists. Lord Metroid 16:29, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
There is now a proposed WikiProject to deal with the state of Maine at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Maine. Any parties interested in taking part in such a project should indicate as much there, so that we can know if there is sufficient interest to create it. Thank you. Badbilltucker 16:57, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
It seems a bit off in reading the article..
100F to -35F seems quite documented and justifiable to print
there are some other things to highlight
The arctic flow is phenomonal at least once a year, it can even seperate it from quebec or
northwest t, making quebec area warmer (strangely) making ME colder than its surroundings from the north.Almost as "crazy" as the mt.Washington winds.The arctic blast really ought
to be mentioned.. there hasn't been a year yet we have not got a taste of it with a nw
or north breeeze that goes on for days sometimes absolutely frigid.It completely seperates my home states of southern new england as well with temperature difference.Dramatically, every year without fail since my move here in 1987. It could be as much as 40 degrees different form central/north maine to mass and coastal NH. The icebox of minnesota
has northern/central maine as its primary place to compare notes to. As for tornados, I
guess its like the question:"if there is a bear in the woods and noone is there to see it.."
I personally helped build a house in the northern tip of maine due to a tornado climbing out
of the saint john river valley, destroying property. We even changed locations at his
request as the land owner claims its happened many more times than once.
Who documents that tornado stuff, if noone is there to document? .
~soob792~ 01:12, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Maine, like most of northern New England, has significant areas where Québec French is spoken, primarily along the border with Canada. In addition, according to the French language article, it is also an administrative language as well. Why is that not mentioned in the Maine article? - Daniel Blanchette 18:43, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
From Maine Watcher:
According to conversations with the staff of the Maine Law Library and with Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap, there is no truth in either Maine law or custom to the assertion on the Maine page that French is an "administrative language" in the state. Where did the information on the page originate? Maine Watcher 18:38, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Removed the claim from this article. It is false, and appears to have originated on Wikipedia. See Voulez-vous: How do you say Wikipedia in French, pp 16-17, July 2007 issue of Down East: The Magazine of Maine. GRBerry 19:52, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to add to this discussion. There is actually a least two major French dialects spoken in Maine. Quebecois tends to be spoken in the larger mill towns, while Acadian French is spoken in the St. John River Valley in N. Aroostook County. The folks up there often refer to the latter as "Valley French".
Dan —Preceding
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Can't find a reference to this anywhere, and what I could find says that Knox-Castrillo was never ratified by the United States
Roadrunner 18:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
"If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. --Nlu (talk) 16:55, 27 January 2007 (UTC)"
What has been asked and what I tried to address in adding the link to the Maine page, is to address the French aspect in the state, and particularly, the women of French heritage. The "famous" list and also the purported what Maine is all about leaves much to be desired when the actuality of the population is not represented. There should be a list of books, like the one which I posted, that begins to reflect the actual diversity, history, population that exists in the state and is silenced due to an amnesia of memory, generations deep, about the true history of this country and continent.
I posted the link to the book, Canuck and Other Stories, because the book addresses that gap in the knowledge. http://www.rhetapress.com/ The book is an important book because it is authentic, written by the women who came to the U.S., Maine, via the land bride to work and live. It is also available in French. This is not a commercial. I am serious about making these works known.
The world is set to view all things in terms of best seller lists, profit margins, etc. that I think we are duped into believing that advocacy is the same thing as seeking celebrity. I think it is not. I advocate for the voices of Franco-American women in many aspects due to the fact of the silencings that have happened.
That was my thinking in adding the book. There could also be added books by the many other cultures, languages, etc. both historical and recent, immigrants that would challenge the "lighthouses, Longfellow, and lobsters" aspect of what constitutes the cultures in Maine.
If this wikiped is to be up-to-date...inclusion of local diversities is the way to go. And not being limited in view as the mainstream...lists.
RCoteRobbins
I'm fairly new to wiki so I hope I haven't trodden on any toes. However, the article implied that the center of population was Augusta, whereas in fact a quarter of the state's population live in the Greater Portland area (I live near there myself...) so I changed it and added a link to back up the assertion. -- Guinevere50 23:46, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
It depends what you mean by 'population center'. It is certainly not accurate to say that a larger proportion of the population live in the Augusta area than live in the Greater Portland area. But perhaps the phrase has a different meaning? The city of Portland web-site was added as a citation for the statement that a quarter of Maine's population lives in that area.-- Guinevere50 22:33, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps the statement should be that more than 25% live in the southern part of the state. According to the Wikipedia articles about Cumberland County, Maine and York County, Maine, the two southernmost counties in the state, the population of the former in 2000 was 265,612 and the latter 186,742 - adding up to 452,354, which is actually around 36%. If the phrase 'mean center' has another, more precise, meaning than 'the area that has the largest amount of population' in it, then perhaps that could either be linked or clarified?-- Guinevere50 01:48, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
IP addresses that begin with 169.244 - i.e. 169.244.152.237 - are used by the Maine School (K-12) and Library Network.-- Chrisbak 15:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
I've marked the assertion that "The first English settlement was established by the Plymouth Company at Popham in 1607, the same years as the settlement at Jamestown, Virginia. Because the Popham colony did not survive the harsh Maine winters, Jamestown enjoys the distinction of being regarded as America’s first permanent settlement." as dubious. The Roanoke Colony predates both of these by years; these sentences need reworking. Firsfron of Ronchester 22:04, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
I think the new edits are an improvement. I've gone ahead and wikilinked our article on the Popham colony. I do agree with Firsfron that this probably shouldn't be in the intro if it isn't in Maine#History, and we might consider moving it down there instead of having it in the intro. History of Maine also could stand to be improved with this wording. (That article is embarassingly incomplete and thus unbalanced, but I've never had the time to research a decent one.) GRBerry 19:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
On the " official site of the State of Maine", page "Facts & History", information is found that total area of State of Maine is 33,215 square miles. Here in wiki it's 33,414... Furthermore, 33,414 is not equal to 30,890 (land area)+4,527(water area) [information from template US state]. The same problem exists in measures in square kilometers. Why's there this inconsistency? I'm asking this, because I use templates from en.wiki to fill up ones in sr.wiki, and, generally, don't like to have wrong information here :) -- Wlodzimierz ( talk) 01:24, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
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I think there are 3 more "Maine" besides the State so the page Maine should be a disambiguation page and the page of the state should be named Maine (US State).
The other three are at the bottom of the Maine page.
I know this can sound controversial to the natives of Maine, but they are not the only with that name in the world.
No but guess what; when someone says Maine 99% of the time it's referring to THE STATE! Your arrogant superiority not withstanding.
Agreed! If Maine is made a disambiguation page, you'd have to do the same for plenty of other states and/or places in this country and the world.
Did you check "What links here"? How many of them refer to anything other than the state? Very few, if any. RickK 04:33, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I reverted the three links in the attribution of the Millay quote. The quote is supposed to embellish and amplify the subject of the text. When three hyperlinks in color are placed so close, you get the text calling attention to to the quote - the exact opposite of the intended style. There are other places in the article where the items in the attribution can be discussed in their own right as full stand-alone subjects, if that is what is desired. -JN
I agree about the formatting but not the link. Although one link is less eye-cluttering than three at this point, I would like to see none. If one is nevertheless for some reason desired, I would recommend a good external link, which I can provide. The Wikipedia article on Millay is, frankly, pretty poor quality. I can give the reasons for that assessment if you desire an extended discussion of literary criticism, although-as the point in this section is trying to convey- the interest should here be on Maine and not literature. I will post two revisions- one without the link and one with a high quality link. Choose which one you like - JN
First, Baloney. If "It's Wikipedia policy", show me the policy. Second, most encyclopedia readers wouldn't know who Edna St. Vincent Millay is? Cut it out. If you think people know that little about literature, you should be sticking to geography topics, which is fine with me. JN
I hesitated to edit the article because, hey, I am Canadian, and it could come across as a POV edit.
Here is what I know: the border between Maine and New Brunswick and Quebec was a matter of dispute until the early 1900s. Northern Maine was occupied during the war of 1812 by British forces, partially under the pretext that the Brits had a right to be there. Like most royal charters the Nova Scotia charter of 1624 gave NS rights from something like Virginia to Labrador... ;).
Here is what I suspect. I think that the border was ill defined. In the novel "His Majesties Yankees" historian Thomas Raddall writes that the "Machias Men" considered themselves and were considered to be in Nova Scotia, and that Nova Scotia settlements beyond Cumberland were at the river mouths of Saint John and Machias.
Back to fact: Now this is of course mitigated by the fact that most settlers in the south shore and Fundy area of Nova Scotia at the outset of the 1776 war were actually settlers from Massachusetts, and some other New England states (fisher folk were happy to move to Nova Scotia after the French were defeated, and be that much closer to the fishing... apparently entire houses were disassembled in Glouster, MA and moved over to Liverpool NS.) So Machias men could be BOTH Nova Scotia men and Massachussets men.
I am going to try and research this and come back with more facts but I am wondering if anyone has any insight, and if I can provide references, would there be objections to a slight (two to three line) edit to the history of Maine?
www.maine.gov has a good rendition of the border dispute. AFethke 17:52, August 13, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, I will turn my hand to this this evening.... WayeMason 18:23, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
I did some research. County Sunbury, who knew it even had a name and a capital, if oyu can call the occasional visit by a magistrate to campebello a capital. Hope this meets your your approval, I am going to insert something similar into the Nova Scotia page. WayeMason 19:15, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
Yay AFethke 21:45, August 13, 2005 (UTC)
Is it Mt. Katahdin or Cadillac Mountain? Please find a source for this if you thik it's wrong. Gator (talk) 13:26, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Hello! I am a writer for the Smithsonian's Center for Education, which publishes Smithsonian in Your Classroom, a magazine for teachers. An online version of an issue titled "Contrasts in Blue: Life on the Caribbean Coral Reef and the Rocky Coast of Maine" is available for free at this address:
http://www.smithsonianeducation.org/educators/lesson_plans/contrast/cover.html
It includes a background essay and lesson plans. If you think the audience would find this valuable, I wish to invite you to include it as an external link. We would be most grateful.
Thank you so much for your attention.
I'd just like to add that Maine rocks my socks! -- Tom12384 06:12, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, new to wikipedia. However, the article says that under the geography section it explains how a large part of this state's interior is uninhabited. There is no geography section (and the link at the bottom doesnt link to anything!) -- Tom12384 06:16, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Over on the article at the Trent Affair there is mention of Maine being in the midst of thoughts of secession itself during the U.S. Civil War, but I have never heard of this. Any Mainers/historians with knowledge care to share/elaborate. Seems this might be worth mentioning in the history section and/or correcting in the Trent Affair article. Any insight? Isoxyl 20:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I think the particular list called "Other significant cities and towns" is problematic. Unless everyone can agree on a concise definition of "significant," it has the potential to grow ridiculously long. It's already a tad longish, in my humble opinion. Everyone thinks there's something "significant" about the town they live in. What constitutes significant, and what doesn't? I propose just removing it, and possibly including a link to Category:Towns in Maine somewhere in the article instead. JamesofMaine 19:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Would it be possible to add "All Info About Maine" as an external link? It has a ton of great information about the state of Maine:
http://www.allinfoaboutmaine.com
I tried to add it myself, but was told to take it here first.
Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mainechick ( talk • contribs) 16:02, 12 Oct 2006 (UTC)
It states on this page that Maine is the only state to have declared war unilaterally. That is untrue, or at least inaccurate. Vermont has also declared war. They declared war on Germany before the US government did: http://vtcommons.org/node/174 ALoponom 15:56, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
The article says "Wind chill often reduces the winter temperature to lows beyond -20." The wind chill factor only affects subjective temperatures, not the actual temperature. If that is meant, then it should be put that way. Also, I assume this is Fahrenheit, in which case that should also be specified. And isn't it a wikirule to give values in SI units (Celsius) first? DirkvdM 08:17, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
The Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. states format has been updated to include a new Sports section, that covers collegiate sports, amateur sports, and non-team sports (such as hunting and fishing). Please feel free to add this new heading, and supply information about sports in Maine. Please see South_carolina#Sports_in_South_Carolina as an example. NorCalHistory 13:43, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Minor athletes, Pros with no outstanding records, really should not be included in a State's Famous person list. This would add substantial clutter to the Maine site, and would just boil down to a fan's list. At the very least, a person on the list should have merited a wikipedia page of their own BEFORE being included on the MAINE page. -- Mitchsensei 05:39, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Politics section - Actually, Rich Whitney (G) won 10% of the vote for Illinois' gubernatorial race in November of last year. So that's the Green's best election bid yet. AdrianLaTraceJr 08:03, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Bold textCameronWhat happened to the page? It looks like tons of stuff was removed, any reason for this?
Any word on Maine taxes, highest in the US, and what it's doing to jobs and folks moving away?
- Its second highest to New York.
Maine’s State/Local Tax Burden Highest in Nation During the past three decades Maine has consistently had one of the highest state and local tax burdens. Estimated at 13.5% of income, Maine’s state/local tax burden percentage has ranked as the nation's highest each year since 1997, and remains well above the national average of 10.6%. Maine taxpayers pay $4,719 per-capita in state and local taxes.
Wondering how to change the list of major cities at the bottom...Brunswick should be in there.
I never liked France much.............kool ok?
Wondering how to edit this State Entry?
The
WikiProject U.S. states standards might help.
Should this be "State of Maine"? What if we want to discuss the French province of Maine? -- Zoe
I like this change, thanks, maveric. -- Zoe
The Maine, in France, is - like the Loire - a river. But I guess it could be under Maine river/River then (unless there's one in the US as well. jheijmans
Maine Watcher
Brunswick should not be on the list of cities in Maine. Brunswick is legally a town -- the largest one in Maine. Maine Watcher 18:42, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
This is pretty pedantic, but I'm a geek, so...
This article calls Maine the easternmost state. Thing is, if you look on a map, a few of Alaska's Aleutian islands are actually across the border into the eastern hemisphere - so technically, shouldn't that make Alaska, rather than Maine, the easternmost state?
I agree. In a lecture for a geography class Im taking, the teacher just talked about how Alaska is the most western, eastern, and northern state. (Hawaii being the most southern.) Maine is not the easternmost state.
Disagree - When discussing a nation, state, city, etc. terms such as easternmost are relative to the whole of the nation, state, city, etc. It really has nothing to do with hemispheres which are only names given to halves on the globe. The fact that a nation is in two or more hemispheres has no bearing on which end of that country is furthest in a particular direction.
It's the Easternmost of the contiguous United States. Put that. -- Lithfo 06:18, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Maine doesn't have the only border dispute in the US, but maybe it is the only "land" border dispute. There are maritime disputes between the US and Canada in the Alaska-British Columbia-Washington area, which actually led to a confrontation in the 90's (?) involving a fishing boat and boats from both the Canadian and US coast guards.
Actually, the state of Texas had a land dispute with Mexico from the time it was founded as the Republic of Texas, continuing thru it's annexation by the US, and up thru the signing of the treaty ending the Mexican-American war. Joncnunn 21:06, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Just created this entry -- can someone with knowledge of this town (or reference books that mention it) fix this? There's not much on the Internet. Thanks, Badagnani 23:21, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Winnegance is the name of a bay in the northern part of Casco Bay. The towns of West Bath, Harpswell, Phippsburg (and perhaps others) are located on or near Winnegance Bay. It's bordered by Bushy Island to the to the east and Jenny's Nubble and the New Meadows River to the west. Yhere may have been a village or other type of locality in the past named Winnegance, but to the best of my knowledge, no such town as Winnegance exists now. The only other reference to the bay that I know of is a "Winnegance Lane" located on Birch Point. Novatom 02:17, 10 May 2007 (UTC) Novatom 02:17, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
From what I've heard, similar to what JamesofMaine was saying, Winnegance was a name for the area "back in the day", but it has no real meaning now. This might be a situation in which a google search isn't the best way to go. user:ktwsolo 16:42, 18 July 2007 EST
I grew up in Maine and lived their for 18 years. I remember being taught in grade school that the name of the state came from the mainland (as opposed to the islands), as the current article mentions, but having travelled more widely since then, I suspect that the sole origin of the name comes from the département in France, known today as Maine et Loire. My reasons for this perspective are:
If interested, be sure to see the current Wikipedia article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine_%28province_of_France%29 Bafooma 01:41, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
There is almost certainly right. Virginia or some other mid-coastal state would more likely have been named "Maine" if the number of islands offshore were relevant. Also, I can't figure out which link says anything about this while, here, I have a link. -- Lithfo 06:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Some of you people from Maine may be able to help me pinpoint this location. It was on the ocean somewhere between Kennebunk and Saco. It is a state park with some kind of a weird name. It has a bridge that goes across to the beach. Anyway, if you can remember the name, let me know. Fundamentaldan 21:56, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
For this particular question it is best to know what I am talking about, namely the difference between 'Citizen of the United States and citizen of the United States for more information regarding this issue, read: Citizenship. The former is as defined by the constitution and is only a person born in one of the 13 orginal states of teh Union while the later is anyone granted citizenship by congress using the 14th Amendement.
Because Maine was Massachusetts before I wonder if it counts as one of the original states and hence have inalienable rights or if the people of Maine only have severly restricted privileges given by congress? Lord Metroid 16:29, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
... Upon further research, I am now unsure of the juridical playfield of citizen and Citizen if such things even exists. Lord Metroid 16:29, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
There is now a proposed WikiProject to deal with the state of Maine at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Maine. Any parties interested in taking part in such a project should indicate as much there, so that we can know if there is sufficient interest to create it. Thank you. Badbilltucker 16:57, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
It seems a bit off in reading the article..
100F to -35F seems quite documented and justifiable to print
there are some other things to highlight
The arctic flow is phenomonal at least once a year, it can even seperate it from quebec or
northwest t, making quebec area warmer (strangely) making ME colder than its surroundings from the north.Almost as "crazy" as the mt.Washington winds.The arctic blast really ought
to be mentioned.. there hasn't been a year yet we have not got a taste of it with a nw
or north breeeze that goes on for days sometimes absolutely frigid.It completely seperates my home states of southern new england as well with temperature difference.Dramatically, every year without fail since my move here in 1987. It could be as much as 40 degrees different form central/north maine to mass and coastal NH. The icebox of minnesota
has northern/central maine as its primary place to compare notes to. As for tornados, I
guess its like the question:"if there is a bear in the woods and noone is there to see it.."
I personally helped build a house in the northern tip of maine due to a tornado climbing out
of the saint john river valley, destroying property. We even changed locations at his
request as the land owner claims its happened many more times than once.
Who documents that tornado stuff, if noone is there to document? .
~soob792~ 01:12, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Maine, like most of northern New England, has significant areas where Québec French is spoken, primarily along the border with Canada. In addition, according to the French language article, it is also an administrative language as well. Why is that not mentioned in the Maine article? - Daniel Blanchette 18:43, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
From Maine Watcher:
According to conversations with the staff of the Maine Law Library and with Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap, there is no truth in either Maine law or custom to the assertion on the Maine page that French is an "administrative language" in the state. Where did the information on the page originate? Maine Watcher 18:38, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Removed the claim from this article. It is false, and appears to have originated on Wikipedia. See Voulez-vous: How do you say Wikipedia in French, pp 16-17, July 2007 issue of Down East: The Magazine of Maine. GRBerry 19:52, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to add to this discussion. There is actually a least two major French dialects spoken in Maine. Quebecois tends to be spoken in the larger mill towns, while Acadian French is spoken in the St. John River Valley in N. Aroostook County. The folks up there often refer to the latter as "Valley French".
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Can't find a reference to this anywhere, and what I could find says that Knox-Castrillo was never ratified by the United States
Roadrunner 18:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
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What has been asked and what I tried to address in adding the link to the Maine page, is to address the French aspect in the state, and particularly, the women of French heritage. The "famous" list and also the purported what Maine is all about leaves much to be desired when the actuality of the population is not represented. There should be a list of books, like the one which I posted, that begins to reflect the actual diversity, history, population that exists in the state and is silenced due to an amnesia of memory, generations deep, about the true history of this country and continent.
I posted the link to the book, Canuck and Other Stories, because the book addresses that gap in the knowledge. http://www.rhetapress.com/ The book is an important book because it is authentic, written by the women who came to the U.S., Maine, via the land bride to work and live. It is also available in French. This is not a commercial. I am serious about making these works known.
The world is set to view all things in terms of best seller lists, profit margins, etc. that I think we are duped into believing that advocacy is the same thing as seeking celebrity. I think it is not. I advocate for the voices of Franco-American women in many aspects due to the fact of the silencings that have happened.
That was my thinking in adding the book. There could also be added books by the many other cultures, languages, etc. both historical and recent, immigrants that would challenge the "lighthouses, Longfellow, and lobsters" aspect of what constitutes the cultures in Maine.
If this wikiped is to be up-to-date...inclusion of local diversities is the way to go. And not being limited in view as the mainstream...lists.
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I'm fairly new to wiki so I hope I haven't trodden on any toes. However, the article implied that the center of population was Augusta, whereas in fact a quarter of the state's population live in the Greater Portland area (I live near there myself...) so I changed it and added a link to back up the assertion. -- Guinevere50 23:46, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
It depends what you mean by 'population center'. It is certainly not accurate to say that a larger proportion of the population live in the Augusta area than live in the Greater Portland area. But perhaps the phrase has a different meaning? The city of Portland web-site was added as a citation for the statement that a quarter of Maine's population lives in that area.-- Guinevere50 22:33, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps the statement should be that more than 25% live in the southern part of the state. According to the Wikipedia articles about Cumberland County, Maine and York County, Maine, the two southernmost counties in the state, the population of the former in 2000 was 265,612 and the latter 186,742 - adding up to 452,354, which is actually around 36%. If the phrase 'mean center' has another, more precise, meaning than 'the area that has the largest amount of population' in it, then perhaps that could either be linked or clarified?-- Guinevere50 01:48, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
IP addresses that begin with 169.244 - i.e. 169.244.152.237 - are used by the Maine School (K-12) and Library Network.-- Chrisbak 15:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
I've marked the assertion that "The first English settlement was established by the Plymouth Company at Popham in 1607, the same years as the settlement at Jamestown, Virginia. Because the Popham colony did not survive the harsh Maine winters, Jamestown enjoys the distinction of being regarded as America’s first permanent settlement." as dubious. The Roanoke Colony predates both of these by years; these sentences need reworking. Firsfron of Ronchester 22:04, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
I think the new edits are an improvement. I've gone ahead and wikilinked our article on the Popham colony. I do agree with Firsfron that this probably shouldn't be in the intro if it isn't in Maine#History, and we might consider moving it down there instead of having it in the intro. History of Maine also could stand to be improved with this wording. (That article is embarassingly incomplete and thus unbalanced, but I've never had the time to research a decent one.) GRBerry 19:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
On the " official site of the State of Maine", page "Facts & History", information is found that total area of State of Maine is 33,215 square miles. Here in wiki it's 33,414... Furthermore, 33,414 is not equal to 30,890 (land area)+4,527(water area) [information from template US state]. The same problem exists in measures in square kilometers. Why's there this inconsistency? I'm asking this, because I use templates from en.wiki to fill up ones in sr.wiki, and, generally, don't like to have wrong information here :) -- Wlodzimierz ( talk) 01:24, 21 November 2007 (UTC)