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It is not just about your AntiVirus or firewall(s). Much of it also depends on your ISP, where you internet is routed through. They can spy monitor on you too. Actually, they have far greater power than any monitoring software on your computer; they can monitor every single bit of activity on your end.
Read this: Norton Forums Thread
A few questions:
Beau regards, a good article otherwise. I know the FBI is keeping mum about it, "of course." -- Koyaanis Qatsi
Ad 1+3: Only if ML ran as an application. There are other ways. What about replacing the keyboard driver with a custom version?
Ad 2: With admin rights, there are ways around these, too. Note that latest worms (e.g. "Goner") try to disable personal firewalls and virus scanners.
As to whether Linux or Mac (or BeOS or FooOS) users are at less risk: Obscurity of an operating system, hardware platform, or mail program may save you, but MacOS is not nearly scarce enough that the FBI won't bother to write a version for it.
As with all viruses/worms/security threats good practices may prevent problems. Linux was one of the first "home" OSs encouraging the use of a not-all-powerful account for things like reading mail — but newer Windowsii and MacOS X followed suit. Compromising an account and trojanising at least some of the tasks done from an account is certainly possible; but without admin rights modifications can be much less stealthy.
The lack of all-out virus vectors on Unix has also done its bit. --Robbe
Why remove the paragraph on the "badtrans" virus? --KQ 02:10 Sep 27, 2002 (UTC) __________________________________
Is there a list of these anti-virus companies that DO succumb to being ignoranuses about the FBI scanners and overlook them during their own scans?
SOPHOS is just one that DOES look for these types of apps, are there others?
Revelations 04:58, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
I saw an interesting term coined by ZD-net [1] called Fedware. I wonder if it would be useful to run with this term to describe software written by the US-federal government. The concern is that Fedware may be excluded from spyware scanners. -- Joewski 07:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. to the alternate tile, Magic Lantern (spyware) ( non-admin closure) Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 21:59, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Magic Lantern (software) → Magic Lantern (keylogging software) – Magic Lantern (firmware) is also software. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:13, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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On 27 April 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Magic Lantern (software) to Magic Lantern (keylogging software). The result of the discussion was moved. |
It is not just about your AntiVirus or firewall(s). Much of it also depends on your ISP, where you internet is routed through. They can spy monitor on you too. Actually, they have far greater power than any monitoring software on your computer; they can monitor every single bit of activity on your end.
Read this: Norton Forums Thread
A few questions:
Beau regards, a good article otherwise. I know the FBI is keeping mum about it, "of course." -- Koyaanis Qatsi
Ad 1+3: Only if ML ran as an application. There are other ways. What about replacing the keyboard driver with a custom version?
Ad 2: With admin rights, there are ways around these, too. Note that latest worms (e.g. "Goner") try to disable personal firewalls and virus scanners.
As to whether Linux or Mac (or BeOS or FooOS) users are at less risk: Obscurity of an operating system, hardware platform, or mail program may save you, but MacOS is not nearly scarce enough that the FBI won't bother to write a version for it.
As with all viruses/worms/security threats good practices may prevent problems. Linux was one of the first "home" OSs encouraging the use of a not-all-powerful account for things like reading mail — but newer Windowsii and MacOS X followed suit. Compromising an account and trojanising at least some of the tasks done from an account is certainly possible; but without admin rights modifications can be much less stealthy.
The lack of all-out virus vectors on Unix has also done its bit. --Robbe
Why remove the paragraph on the "badtrans" virus? --KQ 02:10 Sep 27, 2002 (UTC) __________________________________
Is there a list of these anti-virus companies that DO succumb to being ignoranuses about the FBI scanners and overlook them during their own scans?
SOPHOS is just one that DOES look for these types of apps, are there others?
Revelations 04:58, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
I saw an interesting term coined by ZD-net [1] called Fedware. I wonder if it would be useful to run with this term to describe software written by the US-federal government. The concern is that Fedware may be excluded from spyware scanners. -- Joewski 07:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. to the alternate tile, Magic Lantern (spyware) ( non-admin closure) Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 21:59, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Magic Lantern (software) → Magic Lantern (keylogging software) – Magic Lantern (firmware) is also software. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:13, 27 April 2024 (UTC)