It says nowhere in the article what "DECKMASTER" on the back of the card means, or where it came from. That info would be appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.24.110.17 ( talk) 04:29, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
The actual size of a Magic card in customary units is (215⁄32 by 315⁄16 inches), not 2.5 by 3.5 inches.
Can someone provide a patent number and some more details about the terms of the patents? For example, licensing, etc? — Memotype:: T 04:11, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Please don't add artists to this section unless they have an existing article on Wikipedia. Also, this discussion needs to be archived. Onsetofyour ( talk) 06:06, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
How many languages are the cards translated in? The page mentions only Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, German, some asian languages and, of course, English. -- 151.51.52.142 ( talk) 12:22, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
While I understand that most artifacts have been colorless throughout history, every one of the 4 most recent blocks (including the new one coming out in 10 days) have artifacts that are not colorless, and require colored mana to cast, just like other creatures, enchantments, etc.
Being an artifact does not denote colorlessness, just like being a land does not. It's the casting cost (and any rules text) that determine the color. With so many colored artifacts coming out this year and next, as well as them being represented for the past 3 years (although, admittedly, in very small numbers), I don't think we can say that artifact=colorless.
In the new Rise of the Eldrzi set from the Zendikar Block we see a lot of non artifact, yet colorless Eldrazi creatures and spells, like Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
What do you all think? - IanCheesman ( talk) 16:24, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
I did some pruning to the article but one thing that I came across that might just need to be cut down is the organized play section particularly "Tournament structure." A lot of it is good information, but I'm not sure it is good information that should stay in this article. Also it is the section that seems to contain the most potentially dating material as it refers to which sets are in the current formats even though they change every year. I think a quick explanation on constructed explaining the nature of formats:
They are each composed of specific groups of cards with Extended, standard, and block each containing a different percentage of the total card pool and rotating as new sets come out and that vintage and legacy don't limit the size of the card pool by set. In addition to restrictions on which groups of cards can be used some cards are banned for being too powerful, or occasionally for (in the case a select few older cards) interacting negatively with the current rules of the game.
In limited a person is presented a group of packaged cards which they have to use to build a deck at the event. Limited decks only have to be 40 cards (as opposed to 60) and can have any number of an individual card in a deck (as opposed to the usual limit of 4). The two main forms of limited are sealed, where a person is given multiple packs of cards to use as their total card pool and draft where a person is given fewer packs, but they are passed around the table of players, with each person picking cards from each pack, allowing a player to select a few cards from each of the participants packs. In both cases basic land cards can be obtained freely.
They're not elegant, but they cut out a lot of the stuff that most people don't have to know about. The only thing I can think I left out was talk of a sideboard. Other than this basically all that has to be said is that there is a good spectrum of tournaments ranging from casual ones and FNM's to the fact that there are PTQ's and other non-invitational tourneys like GPs and states/regionals, to invitationals like the pro tour and worlds which are top ranked and have sizable prizes (the actual invitational doesn't need to be mentioned at all). Anything else that can't fit in a short paragraph can probably be moved to the DCI page if necessary. Pwright329 ( talk) 09:22, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
I removed this section:
The Internet has played an important role in competitive Magic. Strategy discussions and tournament reports frequently include a listing of the exact contents of a deck and descriptions of its performance against others. Some players will take this information and construct a similar (or identical) deck, relying on the expertise and experience of other players. This strategy, referred to as "net decking", although typically reliable, is not a guarantee that the player will be able to repeat the deck's earlier success. The player may be inexperienced, unfamiliar with the operation of the deck, or enter an event where a large number of other players have also "net decked". In such a tournament, a "metagame" deck (one designed to defeat common builds in an environment) may be a superior choice. Some players advocate Limited formats of competitive Magic over Constructed formats because of this phenomenon.
from the "controversies" section because I don't see how it's articulating a controversy. If someone wants to rework it into the article some other way, or find reliable sources to describe and support the idea that it's controversial, then I'm pasting it here for reference/use. Croctotheface ( talk) 00:35, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I thought that the part that talks about each color and thier traits should include the fact that Red tends to deal with direct damage, the drawback being that creatures can regenerate from damage, and Black tends to deal with loss of life which regeneration has no effect on. Also this may or may not be important to the article but maybe a mention that with enough loss of life on a indestructibloe creature it will put that creature into the graveyard, this is a slight advantage that black has over other colors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.48.130.33 ( talk) 15:14, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
The article needs some copyediting regarding the use of Italics. At least in the constructed section these don't seem to be employed consistently. If anyone knows the dos and donts it would be great if s/he would improve this. Otherwise I'll do it in a couple of days I guess. Regards, OdinFK ( talk) 21:55, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
It's really just very minor edits, but since I'm supposed to discuss changes to the intro here first: I Think two links could be improved
Any opposition? OdinFK ( talk) 09:01, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Is the article still considered to require cleanup? I think it is quite good right now. Still the GA stuff has mostly not been fixed yet, but that has not so much to do with cleanup. OdinFK ( talk) 12:48, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm wondering if anyone can verify the accuracy of this. I've played MtG since its release, and have lived and played for long enough in each of the midwest, south, and eastern coastal US to know that if this is an American thing, it must be a west coast thing if at all (and a friend of mine from CA says he's never heard it either). I mean, I've heard the cards referred to as "Magic Cards", but I've never heard the game so described, as in "Hey, you want to go play Magic Cards?" In fact, I've never heard anything used the describe the game except "Magic" or, rarely, its full title.
So is this a west coast / Euro thing, or is someone confusing a description for the cards with a description for the game? Because in terms of accuracy, the first sentence of the article is referring to the game as a singular concept, not the cards as a collective group. - Kasreyn ( talk) 19:24, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi all,
I've added a few minor changes to the Color Wheel section (my main concern being that Vigilance is a much better example keyword for White than First Strike, which is commonly red as well as white, whereas Vigilance is about 90/10 white/green.
Another concern is that the article is about the game as a whole, but the color wheel section clearly only describes the game as it is today. Historically, the color wheel has gone through a LOT of changes. For one thing, Shroud, Haste, and Vigilance did not always exist (hard as it is to imagine today, only one creature in Alpha had one of those abilities - the lovely Serra Angel). To boot, the colors were once very, VERY unbalanced, with White being capable of doing just about anything it pleased (killing creatures was no problem with Swords to Plowshares). Also, once upon a time green had the fog effects rather than white, and black had the best library manipulation around.
My question is, should we insert a small paragraph, not going into specifics, but simply noting that the arrangement of abilities has been altered since the game's release, and that white was once very dominant? I would be happy to find a source for the claim of white's superiority, it shouldn't be hard to find. The question is whether the "color wheel" section ought to describe the game as a whole rather than as it is now. Of course, it's probably pretty unlikely that a newbie will read this article and then go jump straight into Legacy and be upset - he'll probably get an intro pack. Still, though.
- Kasreyn ( talk) 19:58, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Concerning the list of Red's disadvantages, I feel that is should be mentioned that red has a harder time dealing with the largest of creatures since the majority of the burn spells that are printed don't deal much more than 4 damage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.111.189.148 ( talk) 23:00, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
No where does it mention the others who helped create MTG, the article simply gives all the credit to Garfield. This is not factually correct, as many articles and personal accounts shows that others worked very hard to help create MTG but simply bot nothing for their troubles. The fact is despite the fact that he may have gotton all the money, etc for it, he was not the only/original creator. As such I have added a 'disputed' tag to the article. Belgarath TS ( talk) 21:50, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
I went through the article and pared out a lot of details that felt like someone's pet peeve, or favourite bit of trivia, or even an event that might have felt significant "at the time," like the Mirrodin artifact frame darkening thing. I think the main article really suffered from including whatever obscure details someone felt like including. The current version could probably still use paring down (I'm not sure stuff like the "big deck mulligan rule" really belongs in the main MtG article, for instance,) but I didn't want to do too much too quickly. Thoughts, comments, criticism? -- Ashenai ( talk) 12:19, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
This article has too many issues for a good article. In order to keep its status, several issues must be resolved:
* Clean up the article so that the cleanup template is no longer necessary
* Resolve the [citation needed] tags
* Format references per
WP:CITE/ES to include publisher and access dates
* A lot of rules are missing inline citations and need them:
* Remove the external links in the article and move them to the External Links section per
WP:EXTLINKS
Keep this page updated with the article's progress. Gary King ( talk) 16:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
It might be time to update the 3x2 card image. It has 10th edition cards and includes Icy Manipulator. A M10 3x2 card image should replace it. -- Mjrmtg ( talk) 13:55, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
There was an major outcry several years ago about the artwork change, right after 7th Edition I believe, can we find a source for inclusion? Sephiroth storm ( talk) 08:00, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Any way to possibly put this article up as a contender for being a feature article? I think with a few minor edits, it deserves a shot at the spotlight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.37.149.125 ( talk) 10:55, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
I don't want to revert the tag, but I do want to say that I don't think the awards list is better presented as prose. It may perhaps be wise to integrate more of the content from the list into the prose part of the section, but converting the whole thing would make it more difficult for someone who was just interested in seeing what awards the game won to find and compare those awards. I'd leave the list in. Croctotheface ( talk) 16:41, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Very strange that this article doesn't have a section for criticisms of Magic. Very strange. 24.224.56.58 ( talk) 16:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
I know that in a Yu-Gi-Oh tournament, you can't have more than 60 cards in your deck. But what about Magic? Is there an upper bound to how many cards you can have in a deck? I didn't see it in the article, is all. Most people try to cut it down to 60 anyway, but I was just wondering. ZtObOr 00:45, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
i remember reading somewhere that you just need to be able to shuffle your deck. however, the 4-of rule means it's not practical to enlargen your deck after a while, since you'll not get the cards you need soon enough. Jds500 ( talk) 18:30, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
As per most tournament rules (rules vary across formats) you must have a minimum of 60 cards in your deck, there is no maximum except the stipulation that you must be able to sufficiently shuffle your deck without assistance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.9.120.50 ( talk) 13:39, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Years ago I had a friend who played Magic. He showed me two sets of cards. One was of a giant, I think named BFG and teh character required two cards to be seen completely. The other was a bar and it too used two cards. The only connecting thing was a guy being thrown from one card to the other. Does anyone else know anything about these? One of my new friends is playing this and I told him about them, and he has never heard of them. I hope I'm not crazy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.80.84.242 ( talk) 02:38, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
I noticed in this article that we're capitalizing the keyword abilities, such as flying. This is just incorrect; those are not proper nouns, and they're not rendered in title case on the cards; they sometimes happen to be capitalized because they're often at the start of a line. We need to fix this throughout the article and at any other articles that do the same thing. Croctotheface ( talk) 10:55, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
I think it should be noted that a few Magic cards have effects dealing with abstract concepts rarely involved in this type of card game. For example, many deal wholly with the lettering of cards, such as the comical card, "Monkey Monkey Monkey". A much more extreme and bizarre example would be the "Goblin Mime", which is discarded if the owner speaks. Brandonrc2 ( talk) 02:44, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
These Sets are For Parodic And Comidic Value only, and Most Respectible MTG players don't Own any because They Have Such Strange and Bizzare Name's, Effect's And Picture's. You Can Tell Unhinged Card's By The Silverish Border. Unglued However Has No Obvious Tell's Like that Other Than the Expantion Symbol. Here is an Example of an Unglued card. So Look Out for that If you think a card has an ununsual Effect. -- Conkern65 ( talk) 21:11, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
It says nowhere in the article what "DECKMASTER" on the back of the card means, or where it came from. That info would be appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.24.110.17 ( talk) 04:29, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
The actual size of a Magic card in customary units is (215⁄32 by 315⁄16 inches), not 2.5 by 3.5 inches.
Can someone provide a patent number and some more details about the terms of the patents? For example, licensing, etc? — Memotype:: T 04:11, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Please don't add artists to this section unless they have an existing article on Wikipedia. Also, this discussion needs to be archived. Onsetofyour ( talk) 06:06, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
How many languages are the cards translated in? The page mentions only Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, German, some asian languages and, of course, English. -- 151.51.52.142 ( talk) 12:22, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
While I understand that most artifacts have been colorless throughout history, every one of the 4 most recent blocks (including the new one coming out in 10 days) have artifacts that are not colorless, and require colored mana to cast, just like other creatures, enchantments, etc.
Being an artifact does not denote colorlessness, just like being a land does not. It's the casting cost (and any rules text) that determine the color. With so many colored artifacts coming out this year and next, as well as them being represented for the past 3 years (although, admittedly, in very small numbers), I don't think we can say that artifact=colorless.
In the new Rise of the Eldrzi set from the Zendikar Block we see a lot of non artifact, yet colorless Eldrazi creatures and spells, like Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
What do you all think? - IanCheesman ( talk) 16:24, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
I did some pruning to the article but one thing that I came across that might just need to be cut down is the organized play section particularly "Tournament structure." A lot of it is good information, but I'm not sure it is good information that should stay in this article. Also it is the section that seems to contain the most potentially dating material as it refers to which sets are in the current formats even though they change every year. I think a quick explanation on constructed explaining the nature of formats:
They are each composed of specific groups of cards with Extended, standard, and block each containing a different percentage of the total card pool and rotating as new sets come out and that vintage and legacy don't limit the size of the card pool by set. In addition to restrictions on which groups of cards can be used some cards are banned for being too powerful, or occasionally for (in the case a select few older cards) interacting negatively with the current rules of the game.
In limited a person is presented a group of packaged cards which they have to use to build a deck at the event. Limited decks only have to be 40 cards (as opposed to 60) and can have any number of an individual card in a deck (as opposed to the usual limit of 4). The two main forms of limited are sealed, where a person is given multiple packs of cards to use as their total card pool and draft where a person is given fewer packs, but they are passed around the table of players, with each person picking cards from each pack, allowing a player to select a few cards from each of the participants packs. In both cases basic land cards can be obtained freely.
They're not elegant, but they cut out a lot of the stuff that most people don't have to know about. The only thing I can think I left out was talk of a sideboard. Other than this basically all that has to be said is that there is a good spectrum of tournaments ranging from casual ones and FNM's to the fact that there are PTQ's and other non-invitational tourneys like GPs and states/regionals, to invitationals like the pro tour and worlds which are top ranked and have sizable prizes (the actual invitational doesn't need to be mentioned at all). Anything else that can't fit in a short paragraph can probably be moved to the DCI page if necessary. Pwright329 ( talk) 09:22, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
I removed this section:
The Internet has played an important role in competitive Magic. Strategy discussions and tournament reports frequently include a listing of the exact contents of a deck and descriptions of its performance against others. Some players will take this information and construct a similar (or identical) deck, relying on the expertise and experience of other players. This strategy, referred to as "net decking", although typically reliable, is not a guarantee that the player will be able to repeat the deck's earlier success. The player may be inexperienced, unfamiliar with the operation of the deck, or enter an event where a large number of other players have also "net decked". In such a tournament, a "metagame" deck (one designed to defeat common builds in an environment) may be a superior choice. Some players advocate Limited formats of competitive Magic over Constructed formats because of this phenomenon.
from the "controversies" section because I don't see how it's articulating a controversy. If someone wants to rework it into the article some other way, or find reliable sources to describe and support the idea that it's controversial, then I'm pasting it here for reference/use. Croctotheface ( talk) 00:35, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I thought that the part that talks about each color and thier traits should include the fact that Red tends to deal with direct damage, the drawback being that creatures can regenerate from damage, and Black tends to deal with loss of life which regeneration has no effect on. Also this may or may not be important to the article but maybe a mention that with enough loss of life on a indestructibloe creature it will put that creature into the graveyard, this is a slight advantage that black has over other colors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.48.130.33 ( talk) 15:14, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
The article needs some copyediting regarding the use of Italics. At least in the constructed section these don't seem to be employed consistently. If anyone knows the dos and donts it would be great if s/he would improve this. Otherwise I'll do it in a couple of days I guess. Regards, OdinFK ( talk) 21:55, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
It's really just very minor edits, but since I'm supposed to discuss changes to the intro here first: I Think two links could be improved
Any opposition? OdinFK ( talk) 09:01, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Is the article still considered to require cleanup? I think it is quite good right now. Still the GA stuff has mostly not been fixed yet, but that has not so much to do with cleanup. OdinFK ( talk) 12:48, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm wondering if anyone can verify the accuracy of this. I've played MtG since its release, and have lived and played for long enough in each of the midwest, south, and eastern coastal US to know that if this is an American thing, it must be a west coast thing if at all (and a friend of mine from CA says he's never heard it either). I mean, I've heard the cards referred to as "Magic Cards", but I've never heard the game so described, as in "Hey, you want to go play Magic Cards?" In fact, I've never heard anything used the describe the game except "Magic" or, rarely, its full title.
So is this a west coast / Euro thing, or is someone confusing a description for the cards with a description for the game? Because in terms of accuracy, the first sentence of the article is referring to the game as a singular concept, not the cards as a collective group. - Kasreyn ( talk) 19:24, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi all,
I've added a few minor changes to the Color Wheel section (my main concern being that Vigilance is a much better example keyword for White than First Strike, which is commonly red as well as white, whereas Vigilance is about 90/10 white/green.
Another concern is that the article is about the game as a whole, but the color wheel section clearly only describes the game as it is today. Historically, the color wheel has gone through a LOT of changes. For one thing, Shroud, Haste, and Vigilance did not always exist (hard as it is to imagine today, only one creature in Alpha had one of those abilities - the lovely Serra Angel). To boot, the colors were once very, VERY unbalanced, with White being capable of doing just about anything it pleased (killing creatures was no problem with Swords to Plowshares). Also, once upon a time green had the fog effects rather than white, and black had the best library manipulation around.
My question is, should we insert a small paragraph, not going into specifics, but simply noting that the arrangement of abilities has been altered since the game's release, and that white was once very dominant? I would be happy to find a source for the claim of white's superiority, it shouldn't be hard to find. The question is whether the "color wheel" section ought to describe the game as a whole rather than as it is now. Of course, it's probably pretty unlikely that a newbie will read this article and then go jump straight into Legacy and be upset - he'll probably get an intro pack. Still, though.
- Kasreyn ( talk) 19:58, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Concerning the list of Red's disadvantages, I feel that is should be mentioned that red has a harder time dealing with the largest of creatures since the majority of the burn spells that are printed don't deal much more than 4 damage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.111.189.148 ( talk) 23:00, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
No where does it mention the others who helped create MTG, the article simply gives all the credit to Garfield. This is not factually correct, as many articles and personal accounts shows that others worked very hard to help create MTG but simply bot nothing for their troubles. The fact is despite the fact that he may have gotton all the money, etc for it, he was not the only/original creator. As such I have added a 'disputed' tag to the article. Belgarath TS ( talk) 21:50, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
I went through the article and pared out a lot of details that felt like someone's pet peeve, or favourite bit of trivia, or even an event that might have felt significant "at the time," like the Mirrodin artifact frame darkening thing. I think the main article really suffered from including whatever obscure details someone felt like including. The current version could probably still use paring down (I'm not sure stuff like the "big deck mulligan rule" really belongs in the main MtG article, for instance,) but I didn't want to do too much too quickly. Thoughts, comments, criticism? -- Ashenai ( talk) 12:19, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
This article has too many issues for a good article. In order to keep its status, several issues must be resolved:
* Clean up the article so that the cleanup template is no longer necessary
* Resolve the [citation needed] tags
* Format references per
WP:CITE/ES to include publisher and access dates
* A lot of rules are missing inline citations and need them:
* Remove the external links in the article and move them to the External Links section per
WP:EXTLINKS
Keep this page updated with the article's progress. Gary King ( talk) 16:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
It might be time to update the 3x2 card image. It has 10th edition cards and includes Icy Manipulator. A M10 3x2 card image should replace it. -- Mjrmtg ( talk) 13:55, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
There was an major outcry several years ago about the artwork change, right after 7th Edition I believe, can we find a source for inclusion? Sephiroth storm ( talk) 08:00, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Any way to possibly put this article up as a contender for being a feature article? I think with a few minor edits, it deserves a shot at the spotlight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.37.149.125 ( talk) 10:55, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
I don't want to revert the tag, but I do want to say that I don't think the awards list is better presented as prose. It may perhaps be wise to integrate more of the content from the list into the prose part of the section, but converting the whole thing would make it more difficult for someone who was just interested in seeing what awards the game won to find and compare those awards. I'd leave the list in. Croctotheface ( talk) 16:41, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Very strange that this article doesn't have a section for criticisms of Magic. Very strange. 24.224.56.58 ( talk) 16:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
I know that in a Yu-Gi-Oh tournament, you can't have more than 60 cards in your deck. But what about Magic? Is there an upper bound to how many cards you can have in a deck? I didn't see it in the article, is all. Most people try to cut it down to 60 anyway, but I was just wondering. ZtObOr 00:45, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
i remember reading somewhere that you just need to be able to shuffle your deck. however, the 4-of rule means it's not practical to enlargen your deck after a while, since you'll not get the cards you need soon enough. Jds500 ( talk) 18:30, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
As per most tournament rules (rules vary across formats) you must have a minimum of 60 cards in your deck, there is no maximum except the stipulation that you must be able to sufficiently shuffle your deck without assistance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.9.120.50 ( talk) 13:39, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Years ago I had a friend who played Magic. He showed me two sets of cards. One was of a giant, I think named BFG and teh character required two cards to be seen completely. The other was a bar and it too used two cards. The only connecting thing was a guy being thrown from one card to the other. Does anyone else know anything about these? One of my new friends is playing this and I told him about them, and he has never heard of them. I hope I'm not crazy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.80.84.242 ( talk) 02:38, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
I noticed in this article that we're capitalizing the keyword abilities, such as flying. This is just incorrect; those are not proper nouns, and they're not rendered in title case on the cards; they sometimes happen to be capitalized because they're often at the start of a line. We need to fix this throughout the article and at any other articles that do the same thing. Croctotheface ( talk) 10:55, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
I think it should be noted that a few Magic cards have effects dealing with abstract concepts rarely involved in this type of card game. For example, many deal wholly with the lettering of cards, such as the comical card, "Monkey Monkey Monkey". A much more extreme and bizarre example would be the "Goblin Mime", which is discarded if the owner speaks. Brandonrc2 ( talk) 02:44, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
These Sets are For Parodic And Comidic Value only, and Most Respectible MTG players don't Own any because They Have Such Strange and Bizzare Name's, Effect's And Picture's. You Can Tell Unhinged Card's By The Silverish Border. Unglued However Has No Obvious Tell's Like that Other Than the Expantion Symbol. Here is an Example of an Unglued card. So Look Out for that If you think a card has an ununsual Effect. -- Conkern65 ( talk) 21:11, 9 July 2010 (UTC)