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This is Archive 2, which cover discussions which began in 2006.
Is there ANY information, positive or negative, regarding full 64-bit APIs to replace the current 32/64 kludges? Frankie 12:46, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Put any ideas, rumours, or hopes about features in Leopard here. - Technomagus 10:50, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Here's hoping that it comes out for "Mac + PC" ;) Who wouldn't want to run OS X on their own non-Apple PC? I know that Apple has been telling us that there's no chance it'll happen, but I think that if they're not already working on it then they're seriously considering it. - Durandal2005 8:30, 6 February 2006
I have a Dell Dimension 2350, Windows XP SP2, and I'm due for a new type of system. I've been falling for a Mac system since seeing the Mac Mini. I don't have a problem with Windows security, using a Linksys NR041 hardware firewall, Mozilla Firefox, and not running random .exe's. Otherwise I'd just get a Mini right away. What I hate is the reputation of Microsoft being way too controlling, which Windows Vista looks to be even more of. I'm really looking forward to the end of 2006, and reading the reviews of the two systems. The next system I'm getting in early 2007 will be based on those :) 24.164.252.36 23:15, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
AppleInsider came up with some patents (including images) Apple filed at the end of 2005, regarding the new Finder being based more on Spotlight technology. Maybe it is worth mentioning in the article itself that a revamped Finder based on metadata is becoming more and more plausible. The article on AppleInsider can be found here. | mensch 17:46, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Do rumors belong in an encyclopedia? Personally I think they should be removed, its pure point of view, speculation and doesn't belong here until the information can be verified. — Wackymacs 17:12, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
According to this APC article, Vista does not support EFI booting. -- Steven Fisher 22:18, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
This idea that the new version of the Finder will be called "Chardonnay" keeps getting echoed around the blogosphere, and it's simply incorrect. Apple uses the wine names before the "official" code name of a release of OS X is chosen. "Pinot", "Merlot", and "Chablis" were the initial names for Jaguar, Panther, and Tiger. "Chardonnay" was the name for 10.5 before marketing settled on "Leopard".
The "Chardonnay" thing was originally from a MacOSXrumors article. They got it wrong, and all the bloggers refence them. Blogosphere is a cliché, by the way. Ccool2ax 14:20, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
I havent seen most any of the stuff under "rumors" anywhere on the internet. That is all speculation except that bit about the MacOSXrumors article. I've never seen anything about Front Row bundeled with Leopard, iCal/Mail "getting integrated", etc. Ccool2ax 14:17, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Someone removed this insertation with the claim it is factually wrong:
I clearly specified that the practice may be illegal, therefore the claim it is factually wrong because the Apple license specifies you may only use it on one Apple computer is rather bizarre. It is a undisputable fact that some people currently are uncomfortable with installing a downloaded developer kit version of Mac OS X for ethical reasons. Most anecdotal evidence suggests a number of these people would feel more comfortable if they could legally acquite a copy of Mac OS X which they could then install on to their unauthorised machines, even if such a practice is technically illegal.
Okay the next issue is why I say it "may" be illegal. Although the Apple license clearly forbids this practice, this doesn't necessarily make it illegal. In most countries (don't know about the US), legal agreements can't violate local laws, if they do, these terms are void. There is speculation that various license terms which forbid a user from installing software on unauthorised systems may be in violation of local laws. AFAIK, this has never been tested in court either way. Therefore, we can't say for sure that it would be illegal just because the Apple license agreement applies it is... Nil Einne 16:04, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
I removed the "v10.5" from this article because Apple has not mentioned a version number in relation to Leopard and Wikipedia shouldn't contain unsourced speculation. My edits were immediately reverted. I don't want to get into an edit war so I'm not going to make any more changes, but I still think the version numbers should go. There's every chance they'll change the numbering scheme if they think the current one is getting tired or a different one would be easier to market. -- Dtcdthingy 02:29, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm sure that a picture of the design of the box / CD was shown in a Steve Jobs keynote. Anyone know if this is true? I've had a quick google but couldn't find anything. Ed 16:21, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
I was looking at part of it the other day. I don't think the box is shown, but a logo on a CD is shown. It's similar to the Tiger logo but darker. I would guess it's not the final logo yet (until the WWDC anyway) SeumasS 18:00, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
I propose we rename this to Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard. Does anyone have documents showing that apple calls this v10.5?-- Chris Ccool2ax contrib. 13:33, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Those screenshots of a sleek-skinned Internet Explorer running on Leopard are almost certainly fake. If developers had received seeds of a new IE for Mac, one of them would have blogged it by now. It would be much bigger news than any flashy transition effect. Frankie
THERE IS NO IE7 FOR MAC!!! THE IE IS RUNNING UNDER OS X B/C OF VIRTUALIZATION< NOT B/C THERE IS A MAC VERSION!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.123.128.197 ( talk • contribs) 19:58, 23 June 2006
Alistair, I would guess that the anonymous editor removed the reference to VMWare because VMWare does not run on Mac OS X. Frankie
Not sure it matters, but I agree with the anon here that this should be left out; it seems like an ultimatly pointless aside that diverts from the main topic, regardless of whether jobs mentioned it in his keynote speech. RN 17:40, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
the screenshot is definitely not from an intel laptop and probably not even an Intel mac unless they are using an unreleased mac or non apple display. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.141.113.121 ( talk • contribs) 00:06, 22 July 2006
I know it's not real! It's in the speculation section! But since speculation seems to be "unencyclopedic" i've removed anything related to speculation for you. Pure inuyasha 17:16, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes. If you had explained that in the first place i would have happily agreed. Thank you for explaining! :) Pure inuyasha 20:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
This is an image of a banner from WWDC, I don't know much about copy-write but The image is of a CD of Leopard. http://guides.macrumors.com/Image:Wwdc2006.jpg#file http://greaterstuff.com/google/perspectivefixed.jpg Maybe the CD could be cut from the Image and put into the article. Then again WWDC is only a couple days away so maybe we sould just wait to get quality images? -- TrevorLSciAct 21:52, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
See [2]. Cheers! Peter S. 20:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
spaces should have something on the new application.
Did anyone else notice that at no point during the WWDC presentation was Leopord addressed as OS X v. 10.5? Can someone with a preview release (or currently at WWDC) please "About this Mac" a box and see what it says? Maybe I missed it, but maybe Apple is going away from numeric versioning and going over to names? Is there any confirmation that Leopord will be released as OS X v10.5, the current article title? jugander ( t) 01:09, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Heres are links to pages with features which seem to be more confirmed than rumors, but which are not listed in the rumors section: http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/08/20060809153921.shtml - Teams http://www.aeroxp.org/board/index.php?showtopic=5142&hl= - a bunch of developer stuff, some of which is very powerful http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=2006080715434145 http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=2006080714382835 http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20060807150857967 - what is xgrid2 GridAnywhere? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.173.56.240 ( talk • contribs) 02:03, 10 August 2006
Those are from the developer preview version of leopard I think.
Does anyone know have a rumor about if there will still be Classic Environment in 10.5? The original developer preview (9A241) doesn't come with Classic (from what I can tell). Thanks! --
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If you're going to constantly revert the sentence about iTunes 7's interface, could you at least replace it with something that doesn't read like it was written by a high school student? -- thickslab 17:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I've removed the advert tag because I don't believe that it applies. The article does not urge users to upgrade, and doesn't seem to spin available information one way or the other. The article does have the future software template applied to it and it's clear the software is not shipping yet, which I think adequately covers why there's no upgrade issues listed. -- Steven Fisher 22:57, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
This is Archive 2, which cover discussions which began in 2006.
Is there ANY information, positive or negative, regarding full 64-bit APIs to replace the current 32/64 kludges? Frankie 12:46, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Put any ideas, rumours, or hopes about features in Leopard here. - Technomagus 10:50, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Here's hoping that it comes out for "Mac + PC" ;) Who wouldn't want to run OS X on their own non-Apple PC? I know that Apple has been telling us that there's no chance it'll happen, but I think that if they're not already working on it then they're seriously considering it. - Durandal2005 8:30, 6 February 2006
I have a Dell Dimension 2350, Windows XP SP2, and I'm due for a new type of system. I've been falling for a Mac system since seeing the Mac Mini. I don't have a problem with Windows security, using a Linksys NR041 hardware firewall, Mozilla Firefox, and not running random .exe's. Otherwise I'd just get a Mini right away. What I hate is the reputation of Microsoft being way too controlling, which Windows Vista looks to be even more of. I'm really looking forward to the end of 2006, and reading the reviews of the two systems. The next system I'm getting in early 2007 will be based on those :) 24.164.252.36 23:15, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
AppleInsider came up with some patents (including images) Apple filed at the end of 2005, regarding the new Finder being based more on Spotlight technology. Maybe it is worth mentioning in the article itself that a revamped Finder based on metadata is becoming more and more plausible. The article on AppleInsider can be found here. | mensch 17:46, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Do rumors belong in an encyclopedia? Personally I think they should be removed, its pure point of view, speculation and doesn't belong here until the information can be verified. — Wackymacs 17:12, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
According to this APC article, Vista does not support EFI booting. -- Steven Fisher 22:18, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
This idea that the new version of the Finder will be called "Chardonnay" keeps getting echoed around the blogosphere, and it's simply incorrect. Apple uses the wine names before the "official" code name of a release of OS X is chosen. "Pinot", "Merlot", and "Chablis" were the initial names for Jaguar, Panther, and Tiger. "Chardonnay" was the name for 10.5 before marketing settled on "Leopard".
The "Chardonnay" thing was originally from a MacOSXrumors article. They got it wrong, and all the bloggers refence them. Blogosphere is a cliché, by the way. Ccool2ax 14:20, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
I havent seen most any of the stuff under "rumors" anywhere on the internet. That is all speculation except that bit about the MacOSXrumors article. I've never seen anything about Front Row bundeled with Leopard, iCal/Mail "getting integrated", etc. Ccool2ax 14:17, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Someone removed this insertation with the claim it is factually wrong:
I clearly specified that the practice may be illegal, therefore the claim it is factually wrong because the Apple license specifies you may only use it on one Apple computer is rather bizarre. It is a undisputable fact that some people currently are uncomfortable with installing a downloaded developer kit version of Mac OS X for ethical reasons. Most anecdotal evidence suggests a number of these people would feel more comfortable if they could legally acquite a copy of Mac OS X which they could then install on to their unauthorised machines, even if such a practice is technically illegal.
Okay the next issue is why I say it "may" be illegal. Although the Apple license clearly forbids this practice, this doesn't necessarily make it illegal. In most countries (don't know about the US), legal agreements can't violate local laws, if they do, these terms are void. There is speculation that various license terms which forbid a user from installing software on unauthorised systems may be in violation of local laws. AFAIK, this has never been tested in court either way. Therefore, we can't say for sure that it would be illegal just because the Apple license agreement applies it is... Nil Einne 16:04, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
I removed the "v10.5" from this article because Apple has not mentioned a version number in relation to Leopard and Wikipedia shouldn't contain unsourced speculation. My edits were immediately reverted. I don't want to get into an edit war so I'm not going to make any more changes, but I still think the version numbers should go. There's every chance they'll change the numbering scheme if they think the current one is getting tired or a different one would be easier to market. -- Dtcdthingy 02:29, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm sure that a picture of the design of the box / CD was shown in a Steve Jobs keynote. Anyone know if this is true? I've had a quick google but couldn't find anything. Ed 16:21, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
I was looking at part of it the other day. I don't think the box is shown, but a logo on a CD is shown. It's similar to the Tiger logo but darker. I would guess it's not the final logo yet (until the WWDC anyway) SeumasS 18:00, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
I propose we rename this to Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard. Does anyone have documents showing that apple calls this v10.5?-- Chris Ccool2ax contrib. 13:33, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Those screenshots of a sleek-skinned Internet Explorer running on Leopard are almost certainly fake. If developers had received seeds of a new IE for Mac, one of them would have blogged it by now. It would be much bigger news than any flashy transition effect. Frankie
THERE IS NO IE7 FOR MAC!!! THE IE IS RUNNING UNDER OS X B/C OF VIRTUALIZATION< NOT B/C THERE IS A MAC VERSION!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.123.128.197 ( talk • contribs) 19:58, 23 June 2006
Alistair, I would guess that the anonymous editor removed the reference to VMWare because VMWare does not run on Mac OS X. Frankie
Not sure it matters, but I agree with the anon here that this should be left out; it seems like an ultimatly pointless aside that diverts from the main topic, regardless of whether jobs mentioned it in his keynote speech. RN 17:40, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
the screenshot is definitely not from an intel laptop and probably not even an Intel mac unless they are using an unreleased mac or non apple display. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.141.113.121 ( talk • contribs) 00:06, 22 July 2006
I know it's not real! It's in the speculation section! But since speculation seems to be "unencyclopedic" i've removed anything related to speculation for you. Pure inuyasha 17:16, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes. If you had explained that in the first place i would have happily agreed. Thank you for explaining! :) Pure inuyasha 20:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
This is an image of a banner from WWDC, I don't know much about copy-write but The image is of a CD of Leopard. http://guides.macrumors.com/Image:Wwdc2006.jpg#file http://greaterstuff.com/google/perspectivefixed.jpg Maybe the CD could be cut from the Image and put into the article. Then again WWDC is only a couple days away so maybe we sould just wait to get quality images? -- TrevorLSciAct 21:52, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
See [2]. Cheers! Peter S. 20:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
spaces should have something on the new application.
Did anyone else notice that at no point during the WWDC presentation was Leopord addressed as OS X v. 10.5? Can someone with a preview release (or currently at WWDC) please "About this Mac" a box and see what it says? Maybe I missed it, but maybe Apple is going away from numeric versioning and going over to names? Is there any confirmation that Leopord will be released as OS X v10.5, the current article title? jugander ( t) 01:09, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Heres are links to pages with features which seem to be more confirmed than rumors, but which are not listed in the rumors section: http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/08/20060809153921.shtml - Teams http://www.aeroxp.org/board/index.php?showtopic=5142&hl= - a bunch of developer stuff, some of which is very powerful http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=2006080715434145 http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=2006080714382835 http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20060807150857967 - what is xgrid2 GridAnywhere? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.173.56.240 ( talk • contribs) 02:03, 10 August 2006
Those are from the developer preview version of leopard I think.
Does anyone know have a rumor about if there will still be Classic Environment in 10.5? The original developer preview (9A241) doesn't come with Classic (from what I can tell). Thanks! --
M1ss1ontom
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rs2k4 (
T |
C |
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17:31, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
If you're going to constantly revert the sentence about iTunes 7's interface, could you at least replace it with something that doesn't read like it was written by a high school student? -- thickslab 17:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I've removed the advert tag because I don't believe that it applies. The article does not urge users to upgrade, and doesn't seem to spin available information one way or the other. The article does have the future software template applied to it and it's clear the software is not shipping yet, which I think adequately covers why there's no upgrade issues listed. -- Steven Fisher 22:57, 24 October 2006 (UTC)