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The photo is not good at all,it's very dark and isn't professional, if anyone can find a nice replacement for the newest Macbook Pro, please upload it. 06:44, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
"the non-removable battery is of a unique design unlike any existing notebook battery;" -lithium polymer (which the sentence is referring to) technology is not unheard of. My ultrabay battery (for thinkpad) is li-polymer. I'm sure there are others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Macadamiaman ( talk • contribs) 11:25, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
the article says "Apple has stated that the 17" MacBook Pro has a rated battery life of 8 hours, and can be recharged 1000 times while still holding 80% of its original charge, although the conditions used to generate such claims are unknown."
However on Apple's website it clearly states: "Testing conducted by Apple in December 2008 using preproduction 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo–based MacBook Pro (17-inch) units with a Better Battery Life setting. Battery life depends on configuration and use. See www.apple.com/batteries for more information. The wireless productivity test measures battery life by wirelessly browsing various websites and editing text in a word processing document with display brightness set to 50%." http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/features-17inch.html 98.203.152.242 ( talk) 19:48, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Is this just happening on my browser, or does the table look funny for the Discrete MBP?-- Airplaneman ( talk) 13:40, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Finally, after months of anticipation and predictions, the 13" aluminum Macbooks have migrated into the Macbook Pro Line. Here is a link for specs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.98.100 ( talk) 03:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
I Added the correct processor information from the tear down photos. photo -- Alpha Cluster ( talk) 18:41, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Looking at all the information, I don't think that the 13 inch Macbook Pro is really so much of a rebrand as an upgrade and rebrand. For instance, the Pro has an SD card slot, a Firewire 800 port, and a built in battery. The Macbook had none of those. Pisharov ( talk) 19:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
-- Yes, you make good points, but the way that steve introduced the macbook pro 13 inch was by suggesting that the macbook unibody 13 inch was "almost" a pro, and hence more of a rebrand/rename than a new product line. I personally feel that for the timeline particularly, the models should be on the same row as they stem from the same lineage almost directly. Anyone disagree? pinchis ( talk) 13:08, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
I corrected the specs- the 2.8 GHz is a standard option on the 15". It just ships in 1-2 days instead of within 24 hrs. Correct me if this fact is wrong. Thanks, Airplaneman ( talk) 17:16, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
I was thinking, just to mirror the MacBook article, that we could add the section Minimum operating system required. I would do it myself, except that I don't know the min. OS required. I would appreciate your input on this matter (below). If you can, please add the relevant info with at least 1 ref. I'm going to do some research myself, too. Thanks, Airplaneman ( talk) 15:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I've noticed an aversion to the creation of headings for the models, particularly the 13" model. Per WP:LAYOUT these subsections are warranted to differentiate items on the subject if they are written in paragraph prose (which they are). Headings help clarify articles and create structure. The argument on notability is misguided as it applies to whether or not a topic is deserving of its own article, not a section header. If there's disagreement that's fine, but we should avoid any further reverts relating to this until others have chimed in with their point of view on the matter. Nja 247 10:02, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
I hope we can stop referring to work done by others to improve the encyclopaedia as being 'slapped' on and other weasely words please. This is to be a collaborative project based on consensus and not petty bickering. The tables are chock full of info, and the paragraphs lacking. I think a reorganisation of how information is presented in this article is order. The MacBook article is in much better shape and has been rated a good article twice. I find the relevance of the PowerBook G4 article lacking as this is a unique model and thus the article needs to be flexible to do the job correctly, which is to convey the information to the reader is the best way possible. I'll have more time over the weekend to draft up some ideas and respond to those you may have. Nja 247 16:13, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
OK, I have an idea. How about, instead of just removing the section headings for the uni-MBP, we consolidate the info that is related into one sentence (like the screen options not mentioned in the table) and so on. I'll tell you more tomorrow- I need to go right now.-- Airplaneman ( talk) 05:10, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I was asked to comment on this minor dispute as a neutral party. I have reviewed the situation and believe the work done at User:Airplaneman/Sandbox is a definite improvement over the current text and have advised Airplaneman to bring them the mainspace. (He has to do it himself for proper attribution.) The new version may not be perfect, but it is an improvement. Wikipedia is a work in progress so there is no need for something to be perfect before it can be implemented.
I believe the expanded prose addresses Butterfly0fdoom's original objections (and he seems to have agreed on Airplaneman's talk page). So really, I think you guys worked this out admirably on your own already. However, if there are any further concerns feel free to let me know. -- ThaddeusB ( talk) 03:59, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
The details of the current range (Unibody) should be at the top. Not buried under a huge table listing the specifications of the older range. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ffrou ( talk • contribs) 12:22, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
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This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | Archive 6 |
This is Archive 4, which contains discussions initiated in 2009.
The photo is not good at all,it's very dark and isn't professional, if anyone can find a nice replacement for the newest Macbook Pro, please upload it. 06:44, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
"the non-removable battery is of a unique design unlike any existing notebook battery;" -lithium polymer (which the sentence is referring to) technology is not unheard of. My ultrabay battery (for thinkpad) is li-polymer. I'm sure there are others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Macadamiaman ( talk • contribs) 11:25, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
the article says "Apple has stated that the 17" MacBook Pro has a rated battery life of 8 hours, and can be recharged 1000 times while still holding 80% of its original charge, although the conditions used to generate such claims are unknown."
However on Apple's website it clearly states: "Testing conducted by Apple in December 2008 using preproduction 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo–based MacBook Pro (17-inch) units with a Better Battery Life setting. Battery life depends on configuration and use. See www.apple.com/batteries for more information. The wireless productivity test measures battery life by wirelessly browsing various websites and editing text in a word processing document with display brightness set to 50%." http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/features-17inch.html 98.203.152.242 ( talk) 19:48, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Is this just happening on my browser, or does the table look funny for the Discrete MBP?-- Airplaneman ( talk) 13:40, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Finally, after months of anticipation and predictions, the 13" aluminum Macbooks have migrated into the Macbook Pro Line. Here is a link for specs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.98.100 ( talk) 03:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
I Added the correct processor information from the tear down photos. photo -- Alpha Cluster ( talk) 18:41, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Looking at all the information, I don't think that the 13 inch Macbook Pro is really so much of a rebrand as an upgrade and rebrand. For instance, the Pro has an SD card slot, a Firewire 800 port, and a built in battery. The Macbook had none of those. Pisharov ( talk) 19:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
-- Yes, you make good points, but the way that steve introduced the macbook pro 13 inch was by suggesting that the macbook unibody 13 inch was "almost" a pro, and hence more of a rebrand/rename than a new product line. I personally feel that for the timeline particularly, the models should be on the same row as they stem from the same lineage almost directly. Anyone disagree? pinchis ( talk) 13:08, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
I corrected the specs- the 2.8 GHz is a standard option on the 15". It just ships in 1-2 days instead of within 24 hrs. Correct me if this fact is wrong. Thanks, Airplaneman ( talk) 17:16, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
I was thinking, just to mirror the MacBook article, that we could add the section Minimum operating system required. I would do it myself, except that I don't know the min. OS required. I would appreciate your input on this matter (below). If you can, please add the relevant info with at least 1 ref. I'm going to do some research myself, too. Thanks, Airplaneman ( talk) 15:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I've noticed an aversion to the creation of headings for the models, particularly the 13" model. Per WP:LAYOUT these subsections are warranted to differentiate items on the subject if they are written in paragraph prose (which they are). Headings help clarify articles and create structure. The argument on notability is misguided as it applies to whether or not a topic is deserving of its own article, not a section header. If there's disagreement that's fine, but we should avoid any further reverts relating to this until others have chimed in with their point of view on the matter. Nja 247 10:02, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
I hope we can stop referring to work done by others to improve the encyclopaedia as being 'slapped' on and other weasely words please. This is to be a collaborative project based on consensus and not petty bickering. The tables are chock full of info, and the paragraphs lacking. I think a reorganisation of how information is presented in this article is order. The MacBook article is in much better shape and has been rated a good article twice. I find the relevance of the PowerBook G4 article lacking as this is a unique model and thus the article needs to be flexible to do the job correctly, which is to convey the information to the reader is the best way possible. I'll have more time over the weekend to draft up some ideas and respond to those you may have. Nja 247 16:13, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
OK, I have an idea. How about, instead of just removing the section headings for the uni-MBP, we consolidate the info that is related into one sentence (like the screen options not mentioned in the table) and so on. I'll tell you more tomorrow- I need to go right now.-- Airplaneman ( talk) 05:10, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I was asked to comment on this minor dispute as a neutral party. I have reviewed the situation and believe the work done at User:Airplaneman/Sandbox is a definite improvement over the current text and have advised Airplaneman to bring them the mainspace. (He has to do it himself for proper attribution.) The new version may not be perfect, but it is an improvement. Wikipedia is a work in progress so there is no need for something to be perfect before it can be implemented.
I believe the expanded prose addresses Butterfly0fdoom's original objections (and he seems to have agreed on Airplaneman's talk page). So really, I think you guys worked this out admirably on your own already. However, if there are any further concerns feel free to let me know. -- ThaddeusB ( talk) 03:59, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
The details of the current range (Unibody) should be at the top. Not buried under a huge table listing the specifications of the older range. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ffrou ( talk • contribs) 12:22, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
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