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Information about the release of the MacBooks has been leaked and recorded in an article on Think Secret. I edited this article to be about the MacBooks (speculative) and no longer redirect to the MacBook Pro's because of the trustworthiness of Think Secret's speculations Feel free to disagree with me. Brett 17:35, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Might want to mention that a lot of sites out there are speculating a true 16:9 resolution of 1280x720, which while disappointing, is in line with the resolution reductions in the MBPs to hold the built-in iSight? Michel 21:54, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Folks, I don't think Wikipedia is the place to mirror information from rumor sites. As an encyclopedia, we should only include verifiable claims. It would be wrong to write a whole article based on speculation even if Nick DePlume is a reliable guy. Besides, maybe in a few more hours, this discussion will be moot. Ramallite (talk) 03:44, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
This article can now be updated given the official release (5/16/06) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:24.170.192.189 ( talk) .
Someone should find an appropriate picture of the classic white MacBook for the main page graphic, as it is the default model, and the black is a special model. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aanhorn ( talk • contribs) .
Since the hard drive is upgradeable, it would be cool if one of the owners could measure if it's 0.5" or a 0.375" in height (160 GB drives only seem to be available in 0.5" currently). 82.32.65.149
What is the hard drive manufacturer ? Seagate ? What exact model is it ?
It should be pointed out that the new glossy screen is an option.
From the Apple Store they have a "Learn More" link where you can choose the glossy display, it reads:
Quote: Display
Choose the glossy widescreen display to make your graphics, photos, and videos appear with richer color and deeper blacks - great for watching DVD movies. If you prefer a display with anti-glare coating for a matte rather than glossy viewing experience, choose the standard widescreen display.
Both widescreen displays are significantly brighter than previous Apple notebooks. The 15-inch MacBook Pro is 67% brighter than the 15-inch PowerBook G4, and the 17-inch model is 36% brighter than the 17-inch PowerBook G4. Kar98 15:25, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure the following excerpt is factually correct:
I was under the impression that Sony's displays were much less reflective, and probably correctly classified as anti-glare. It may also be mentioned for NPOV balance that some users have been complaining about the reflection being excessive. - Samsara ( talk • contribs) 11:40, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I moved the image back to the right for the following reason: It doesn't look quite right on the left, because the screen faces off the page. It is for the same reason that Microsoft changed desktop icons from facing the left to right from Windows 98 -> Windows 2000. I know it's a very picky point - but I guess ultimately the community decides. This is just my opinion. I would have a image on the left if we showed the MacBook from the left side - i.e. a picture that shows the ports rather than the optical drive side. What do you all think? -- mintchocicecream 08:50, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
This article failed to become a good article as the lead section is too long. Cheung1303 05:17, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Any data on this? - Samsara ( talk • contribs) 22:31, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
That is particularly hard to specify, because it all depends on the user. If the Back light is high or low, if you use your Disc Drive, if you burn a disc or if you put your hard drive to sleep. IMHO i would say about 2 hours with middle brightness setting and no Disc use. ( Me-pawel 03:40, 1 November 2006 (UTC))
In response to the rejection of my recent edit, I would argue that the Mac mini's configuration is significant for two reasons:
I have since edited Mac mini to this effect, maybe that is a better place. It seems to me that if we are comparing the MacBook and MacBook Pro, which are technically more different from each other, then this comparison (MB vs. Mm) should be included. However, if you would prefer to keep articles comparison-free, I am happy for that guideline to be universally followed.
Samsara ( talk • contribs) 22:35, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
I've now somewhat unconventionally put in a sentence with the link to the appropriate section of the Mac mini article in a footnote. I hope someone has a better solution for this. - Samsara ( talk • contribs) 10:29, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Hello people, is it appropriate to create a new section called Issues with macbook or heat issues. There has been reports that a small plastic strip covering the rear exhaust vents when you open the mabook, its causing excessive heat. The plastic strip was Apple's way to protect dust from getting inside the laptop. Also caution about using laptop on your thighs.
See reference [3]
Just a thought -- Visik 11 June 2006
For clarification, the stock black MacBook is identical in terms of specs to the white midrange MacBook - with the sole exception of the 80GB hard drive in the black MacBook. The price difference is $200. However, if one upgrades the midrange white MacBook with an 80GB hard drive, then the price difference is $150. This is in reply to some recent edits which confused the price differences between the two. See the MacBook on the Apple Store here for more info. –- kungming·2 | (Talk· Contact) 06:17, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
I added "reportedly" to the blurb about Apple replacing/fixing discolored MacBooks only because there's been no official release or knowledge base article on Apple's website yet. My own MacBook is affected by the discoloration, and my local Apple Store is in fact taking care of it. raekwon 00:55, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
We need a picture of this. I may be taking one in the next few days. Has anyones Macbook discolored...red-ish? I've only seen yellow or brown stains, but my MacBook looks pink!? Whats up with that? -- Me-pawel 01:45, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Does it deserve mention that MacBooks are made by Asustek? ( Corby 02:09, 5 July 2006 (UTC))
Nah, that would destroy the myth of Apple's superior engineering.
Hi all,
I am delisting this article because it reads sort of like a sales pamphlet. For example, the sentence "The MacBook was introduced on May 16, 2006 to immediate availability in all United States." This raises the question was the MacBook not released outside the United States? The article lacks insight into the product's success, its marketing and technical details beyond those available through the Apple website. It does list a few customer issues which is good but overall I feel the article can be improved if it is to become a good article. If you disagree with this delisting you may ask for a review here or if you have made changes to the article to address these issues you can renominate it here. Please don't be discouraged, this article is valuable part of Wikipedia but it just does not meet the criteria for a good article.
Cedars 05:07, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Changed "laptop" to "notebook". Apple notebook computers are NOT laptop computers. See Apple press releases for details. Their computers run too hot for normal use as a laptop. Jgw 20:37, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Why does the Macbook have its own catergory? -- BJ 21:45, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Apple has released an update for Macbooks that experience RSD (random shut downs). It lets the fans run on high speed for about 10 seconds. I think we should put this in, but I don't understand how a software like this can solve a Hardware problem oO? ( Me-pawel 00:45, 28 October 2006 (UTC))
I clearned up some paragraphs making it easier to read, added a few sources, and I also added a few links to various websites covering the MacBook problems, including stainedbook.info, macbookrandomshutdowns.com, appledefects.com, and macintouch.com
Anyone else know of some sites that track problems? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.214.1 ( talk) 21:46, November 1, 2006
Another possibility for not making use of a discrete graphics solution is the amount of space available on the inside of the MacBook. There is simply not as much room on the PCB or in the unit itself for a 1.25 square inch chip, which would require additional cooling, as there is in the MacBook Pro. citation needed The same applies to the Mac Mini.
This sounds really strange, remember that iBook was smaller (12") and packed GPU chip just fine. So did G4 Mac mini. i'd like someone to comment or source this otherwise I will remove it within two days.
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 |
This is Archive 1, which cover discussions which began in 2006.
Information about the release of the MacBooks has been leaked and recorded in an article on Think Secret. I edited this article to be about the MacBooks (speculative) and no longer redirect to the MacBook Pro's because of the trustworthiness of Think Secret's speculations Feel free to disagree with me. Brett 17:35, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Might want to mention that a lot of sites out there are speculating a true 16:9 resolution of 1280x720, which while disappointing, is in line with the resolution reductions in the MBPs to hold the built-in iSight? Michel 21:54, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Folks, I don't think Wikipedia is the place to mirror information from rumor sites. As an encyclopedia, we should only include verifiable claims. It would be wrong to write a whole article based on speculation even if Nick DePlume is a reliable guy. Besides, maybe in a few more hours, this discussion will be moot. Ramallite (talk) 03:44, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
This article can now be updated given the official release (5/16/06) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:24.170.192.189 ( talk) .
Someone should find an appropriate picture of the classic white MacBook for the main page graphic, as it is the default model, and the black is a special model. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aanhorn ( talk • contribs) .
Since the hard drive is upgradeable, it would be cool if one of the owners could measure if it's 0.5" or a 0.375" in height (160 GB drives only seem to be available in 0.5" currently). 82.32.65.149
What is the hard drive manufacturer ? Seagate ? What exact model is it ?
It should be pointed out that the new glossy screen is an option.
From the Apple Store they have a "Learn More" link where you can choose the glossy display, it reads:
Quote: Display
Choose the glossy widescreen display to make your graphics, photos, and videos appear with richer color and deeper blacks - great for watching DVD movies. If you prefer a display with anti-glare coating for a matte rather than glossy viewing experience, choose the standard widescreen display.
Both widescreen displays are significantly brighter than previous Apple notebooks. The 15-inch MacBook Pro is 67% brighter than the 15-inch PowerBook G4, and the 17-inch model is 36% brighter than the 17-inch PowerBook G4. Kar98 15:25, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure the following excerpt is factually correct:
I was under the impression that Sony's displays were much less reflective, and probably correctly classified as anti-glare. It may also be mentioned for NPOV balance that some users have been complaining about the reflection being excessive. - Samsara ( talk • contribs) 11:40, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I moved the image back to the right for the following reason: It doesn't look quite right on the left, because the screen faces off the page. It is for the same reason that Microsoft changed desktop icons from facing the left to right from Windows 98 -> Windows 2000. I know it's a very picky point - but I guess ultimately the community decides. This is just my opinion. I would have a image on the left if we showed the MacBook from the left side - i.e. a picture that shows the ports rather than the optical drive side. What do you all think? -- mintchocicecream 08:50, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
This article failed to become a good article as the lead section is too long. Cheung1303 05:17, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Any data on this? - Samsara ( talk • contribs) 22:31, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
That is particularly hard to specify, because it all depends on the user. If the Back light is high or low, if you use your Disc Drive, if you burn a disc or if you put your hard drive to sleep. IMHO i would say about 2 hours with middle brightness setting and no Disc use. ( Me-pawel 03:40, 1 November 2006 (UTC))
In response to the rejection of my recent edit, I would argue that the Mac mini's configuration is significant for two reasons:
I have since edited Mac mini to this effect, maybe that is a better place. It seems to me that if we are comparing the MacBook and MacBook Pro, which are technically more different from each other, then this comparison (MB vs. Mm) should be included. However, if you would prefer to keep articles comparison-free, I am happy for that guideline to be universally followed.
Samsara ( talk • contribs) 22:35, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
I've now somewhat unconventionally put in a sentence with the link to the appropriate section of the Mac mini article in a footnote. I hope someone has a better solution for this. - Samsara ( talk • contribs) 10:29, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Hello people, is it appropriate to create a new section called Issues with macbook or heat issues. There has been reports that a small plastic strip covering the rear exhaust vents when you open the mabook, its causing excessive heat. The plastic strip was Apple's way to protect dust from getting inside the laptop. Also caution about using laptop on your thighs.
See reference [3]
Just a thought -- Visik 11 June 2006
For clarification, the stock black MacBook is identical in terms of specs to the white midrange MacBook - with the sole exception of the 80GB hard drive in the black MacBook. The price difference is $200. However, if one upgrades the midrange white MacBook with an 80GB hard drive, then the price difference is $150. This is in reply to some recent edits which confused the price differences between the two. See the MacBook on the Apple Store here for more info. –- kungming·2 | (Talk· Contact) 06:17, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
I added "reportedly" to the blurb about Apple replacing/fixing discolored MacBooks only because there's been no official release or knowledge base article on Apple's website yet. My own MacBook is affected by the discoloration, and my local Apple Store is in fact taking care of it. raekwon 00:55, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
We need a picture of this. I may be taking one in the next few days. Has anyones Macbook discolored...red-ish? I've only seen yellow or brown stains, but my MacBook looks pink!? Whats up with that? -- Me-pawel 01:45, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Does it deserve mention that MacBooks are made by Asustek? ( Corby 02:09, 5 July 2006 (UTC))
Nah, that would destroy the myth of Apple's superior engineering.
Hi all,
I am delisting this article because it reads sort of like a sales pamphlet. For example, the sentence "The MacBook was introduced on May 16, 2006 to immediate availability in all United States." This raises the question was the MacBook not released outside the United States? The article lacks insight into the product's success, its marketing and technical details beyond those available through the Apple website. It does list a few customer issues which is good but overall I feel the article can be improved if it is to become a good article. If you disagree with this delisting you may ask for a review here or if you have made changes to the article to address these issues you can renominate it here. Please don't be discouraged, this article is valuable part of Wikipedia but it just does not meet the criteria for a good article.
Cedars 05:07, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Changed "laptop" to "notebook". Apple notebook computers are NOT laptop computers. See Apple press releases for details. Their computers run too hot for normal use as a laptop. Jgw 20:37, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Why does the Macbook have its own catergory? -- BJ 21:45, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Apple has released an update for Macbooks that experience RSD (random shut downs). It lets the fans run on high speed for about 10 seconds. I think we should put this in, but I don't understand how a software like this can solve a Hardware problem oO? ( Me-pawel 00:45, 28 October 2006 (UTC))
I clearned up some paragraphs making it easier to read, added a few sources, and I also added a few links to various websites covering the MacBook problems, including stainedbook.info, macbookrandomshutdowns.com, appledefects.com, and macintouch.com
Anyone else know of some sites that track problems? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.214.1 ( talk) 21:46, November 1, 2006
Another possibility for not making use of a discrete graphics solution is the amount of space available on the inside of the MacBook. There is simply not as much room on the PCB or in the unit itself for a 1.25 square inch chip, which would require additional cooling, as there is in the MacBook Pro. citation needed The same applies to the Mac Mini.
This sounds really strange, remember that iBook was smaller (12") and packed GPU chip just fine. So did G4 Mac mini. i'd like someone to comment or source this otherwise I will remove it within two days.